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Delegates count: Clinton 762 vs Sanders 549--Need 2,383 to win

They're still close, but some media (for example, the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza) are not explaining the difference between actual delegates won in the primaries and caucuses vs superdelegates' votes.
If you include superdelegates' votes, Clinton has a strong lead, but superdelegates can change their votes. Delegates allocated based on primary/caucus votes can't be so easily changed.


Superdelegates? Even the Founders would approve

I think having superdelegates that can override rank-and-file voters' votes is an abomination.

But let's remember that even the Founders were totally into the idea of having the Establishment be able to override the will of the common (property-owning, white, male) citizenry.

Read the original version of the Constitution of the United States of America:

Article I, section 3:
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Article II, section 1:
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons.... The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President....

Forgotten history: Hillary's 2008 Superdelegates "Firewall"

Washington Post January 30, 2008:

"Of the nearly 300 superdelegates who have committed to a candidate, out of a total of 796, Clinton leads Obama roughly by a 2-to-1 ratio, according to numerous counts. The lead is so substantial, her campaign asserts, that even if Obama pulls ahead in pledged delegates after Feb. 5, Clinton will probably retain a modest edge in the overall delegate tally.

But there is a catch. While delegates chosen in a primary or caucus are technically committed to a candidate, superdelegates can change their allegiance at any time."


And, as they say, "the rest is history ..."

Delegates Count: Clinton 762 vs Sanders 544

2,383 delegates needed to win the nomination.

It's still pretty close, although you wouldn't know that from listening to the talking heads.

Trump doing another televised press Q&A; when will HRC?

When was the last time Hillary actually took unscripted questions during a live press conference?

Why does Hillary oppose a $15 federal minimum wage?

Serious question.

Bernie (and Martin O'Malley) supports a $15 federal minimum wage.

If Hillary's opposition is out of pragmatism, under the notion that congressional Republicans would never support a $15 minimum wage, well, they won't agree to a $12 federal minumum wage either, yet she says she does support a $12 minimum wage.

And on a related subject--
In negotiating, when you want a higher price than the other party wants, you should always start from above where you really want to end up so that you have room to negotiate. So does Hillary really only want a $12 federal min wage, or is that just her starting-above point, with an aim to ultimately achieve something actually even lower?

Why doesn't ANYBODY ask Cruz & Rubio about the 2013 government shutdown?

Why doesn't Chris Wallace or Megyn Kelly ask Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio why they were so hell-bent to shutdown the government in 2013 and allow the US to default on its debt obligations, resulting in our credit rating being downgraded for the first time in history?

Ok, so that was kind of a rhetorical question.

Why doesn't Anderson Cooper ask it during a debate or town hall? (Ok--another rhetorical question.)

But why doesn't DONALD TRUMP, or one of his slimy surrogates, ask this?
They should be constantly asking this in every forum possible.

Trump interview by Larry King 2013 (30-second clip):

"Ted Cruz doesn't talk about the government shutdown he led"
CNN, January 16, 2016
"... on his six-day Iowa tour last week, Cruz didn't mention the shutdown once. It hasn't come up in the debates. Undecided voters don't ask about it in town halls."

Who are the liars that Melissa Harris-Perry was referring to?

MHP reportedly wrote this in her email to staff:

I have stayed in the same hotels where MSNBC has been broadcasting in Iowa, in New Hampshire, and in South Carolina, yet I have been shut out from coverage. I have a PhD in political science and have taught American voting and elections at some of the nationís top universities for nearly two decades, yet I have been deemed less worthy to weigh in than relative novices and certified liars. I have hosted a weekly program on this network for four years and contributed to election coverage on this network for nearly eight years, but no one on the third floor has even returned an email, called me, or initiated or responded to any communication of any kind from me for nearly a month. It is profoundly hurtful....
(emphasis added)


I finally stopped watching MSNBC for good a few weeks ago.
But before that, I did watch a few bits of MSNBC's analysis of debates and primary elections, and I wondered why they didn't have MHP as one of their featured analysts. I just assumed that it was because of some conflicts with her teaching schedule at Wake-Forest.

Now, I'm not so sure.

But I'd love to hear who it is that she feels are the "certified liars" that MSNBC has instead chosen to provide a platform for.

Hillary was one of the more liberal Senators, based on her actual votes

There are a number of issues with Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy that should give liberal voters pause, such as her vote authorizing Bush and Cheney to wage war in Iraq; her relationship with Wall Street and corporate interests; her proposals for how to proceed against the Islamic State and how to handle Syria; and her shifting positions on trade agreements (NAFTA, TPP, etc), the Keystone XL pipeline, and gay marriage.

But let's not lose sight of the fact that during her time in the Senate, the votes she cast placed her among the progressive members of that body.

Bernie Sanders was without question the most progressive member of the Senate, based on votes cast during the 107th-110th Congresses.

But Hillary came in as the 11th most progressive, to the left of Leahy, Mikulski, Durbin, Biden, and Reid.
Obama came in at 23rd most progressive, so clearly to Hillary's right.


(the rankings are based on the algorithm developed by political scientists Keith T. Poole and Howard Rosenthal)

I think one of the discussions we could have is about how the overall political climate in the country has shifted so far to the right in the past few decades that what passes for liberal these days might not be considered all that liberal in other contexts.

Who has the actual turnout numbers for past primaries/contests?

Lot of people keep talking about how Republican turnout is up while Democratic turnout has been down this primary season.
It's a very important topic, but it isn't getting the kind of careful analysis that it merits.

Who has the actual numbers?

Let's take the Democrats in South Carolina, for instance.

1992 - 116,000 (?)*
1996 - no real primary**
2000 - caucus, not a primary***
2004 - 292,000 voters
2008 - 530,000 voters
2012 - no real primary**
2016 - 367,000

Yes, 367,000 votes cast this year is down from 530,000 votes cast in 2008. But 2008 had Obama, the first African-American candidate with a realistic shot at the nomination on the ballot, AND had John Edwards, who was FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, on the ballot. So 2008 probably isn't exactly a representative year.

The 2016 South Carolina Democratic turnout is clearly better than the 2004 turnout was.
It's also a lot better than the 1992 turnout was, although that apparent increase is tempered somewhat by the fact that the state population has grown quite a bit since the early 1990s.

* http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=45&year=1992&f=0&off=0&elect=1

** Clinton and Obama were incumbent Democratic presidents

*** Did the party ever release the actual total turnout numbers? What were they, for comparisons sake?
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