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Did the Amtrak engineer survive? nt

Any word yet on Alabama turnout? nt

The Al Franken flap has produced a good thing.

It has raised to the forefront the idiocy of "zero tolerance" and "the default should be to believe the woman." Faced with putting these ideas into action in all cases has made DUers (and, I hope thousands/millions) of other people realize that "Zero tolerance is zero common sense." (Another poster). I'm not saying the accusers are lying. Dunno. I'm just saying get real. Don't put sex in some sort of Victorian/Puritan magical category. Care about the environment and the poor and our health care!

Has Trump so trivialized U.S. foreign policy that the Jerusalem...

... "decision" will be viewed by the world as more stuff not to take seriously from the Tweeter in chief?

What happened to thread about amount of activity on DU?

I was reading it between 8:50 and 9:00 this morning, and came back to ask one of the posters about Facebook groups. But I can't find it anywhere. Was it deleted? It had a short Subject line. I thought "DU" was in it, but searches on web page don't find it. So... 2 questions.

1 - What happened to the thread?

2 - Someone said that people are shifting to Facebook groups. I couldn't find a single political Facebook group except Drudge. Am I not looking in the right place?

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What do you think about Garrison Keillor's article about flamboyant gay dress?

This was posted in a reply in another DU thread as an example of Keillor's political incorrectness. From my perspective, anyone who has listened to him for any length of time knows that he is not homo-phobic. He points out in the beginning that he is talking about a stereotype (i.e., not the actual whole population) .He is complaining about flamboyant dress. Since when are we not allowed to have a negative opinion about an adult's dress? What do you think?

The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men ó sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. Thatís for the kids. Itís their show.



Sorry, I was unable to find a link to the original Salon article.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/03/why-salon-running-garrison-keillors-ridiculous-stereotypes-gay-men/#

What do you think about this Garrison Keillor take on Christmas?

I've found a perfect example of what I think is over the top political correctness in the opinions about this bit by Garrison Keillor. If you want to see some of it, there is a link below. My personal reaction to this bit of Keillor-ism is "Way to go! Christmas should be moved to another date... say Dec 28, and leave Dec 25 to be the celebration of materialism." I must confess that I'd probably continue the celebration of gift giving and feasting on the 25th. But I deplore the slow (and now speedy) elimination of Christ from the holiday. How does this qualify as prejudice, or whatever?

Nonbelievers, please leave Christmas alone
December 16, 2009|By Garrison Keillor

Unitarians listen to the Inner Voice and so they have no creed that they all stand up and recite in unison, and that's their perfect right, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong to rewrite "Silent Night." If you don't believe Jesus was God, OK, go write your own damn "Silent Night" and leave ours alone. This is spiritual piracy and cultural elitism, and we Christians have stood for it long enough. And all those lousy holiday songs by Jewish guys that trash up the malls every year, Rudolph and the chestnuts and the rest of that dreck. Did one of our guys write "Grab your loafers, come along if you wanna, and we'll blow that shofar for Rosh Hashanah"? No, we didn't.

Christmas is a Christian holiday - if you're not in the club, then buzz off. Celebrate Yule instead or dance around in druid robes for the solstice. Go light a big log, go wassailing and falalaing until you fall down, eat figgy pudding until you puke, but don't mess with the Messiah.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2009-12-16/news/bal-op.keillor16dec16_1_silent-night-unitarian-christmas

This was first posted in this reply to another thread.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029899603#post38

I've finally figured out my take on sexual misconduct. What about you?

For the past couple of weeks I've been struggling to come up with a principle for responding to allegations of sexual misconduct. I've finally got it. In all circumstances except for current (within the statute of limitations) instances of violence, involvement of children or threats to a person's livelihood, we should not try to establish a principle. The area is too tied up with the norms of small communities. For instance, I really resonated with the person who pointed out that there's value in little children understanding how much aunts and uncles appreciate hugs. On the other hand, I'm sympathetic with situations where the children have developed a strong sense of privacy. These things will vary from family to family.

So - I'm going to stop trying to come up with principles that we can all embrace. The perpetrators, or targets of allegations, will just have to deal with the majority sentiment.

My granddaughters were told the earth would be uninhabitable in 30 years.

They are 8 and 14 and heard, or thought they heard this, on a retreat. They came home in tears. My daughter isn't sure where the mis-information came from - whether it was their hearing or the speakers' sources, but it certainly throws a light on the question of how to raise awareness without scaring people into immobility. And as things get worse and worse over the decades, what do people tell the next generations?

Do any of you have examples of what to say to the youngest activists?

Why does sexual "misconduct" automatically...

... trump (sic) possible votes on income inequality and climate change? I'm not focussing on any individual... just on the notion that a person's political positions are not trivial.

Why is it that "sex" trumps everything???????
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