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Outing the Proud Boys leader as a snitch could be a very useful tool...

whether he is a snitch, or not. I'm not saying he isn't, but it'd be a helluva weapon to be wielded by the Feds - kind of like tossing a psychological grenade into their ultra-paranoid and conspiracy-loving group. Just hold a press conference and say the head MAGAt instigator of any of these groups has been a long-time informant, or something akin to that. Lord knows it doesn't take these followers much to blow even the slightest potential threat all out of proportion. Won't be many of them that'll give the leader the benefit of the doubt, and that weapon could probably be effectively used again and again, without much dilution of effectiveness; too risky to assume the Feds are just playing a game.

A couple of other interesting effects:

1) If you're lucky enough to be the sacrificial lamb, you instantly become a target of your own crazy compatriots and may beg to be held in custody for your own safety.

2) Everybody else in the group freaks at the possibility of there being even more informants, and of being given up by literally everyone else.

Attendance at club meet-ups is likely to fall precipitously, and you make the already-spooked members even more wary about joining a new one. Pretty effective way to decapitate the group by leveraging its members own psychological weaknesses. Sounds like a fun experiment.


Hey Chuck Schumer: 'Bout time to haul in Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy to get to the bottom of this:

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” [Kevin] McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

.........

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”



Might just be they key to a whole Pandora's Box of reasons explaining the logic-defying, anti-American fealty to Putin's agenda by the Republicans over the last 4+ years.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

WTTW - You don't bring flex-cuffs (zip ties) to a 1st Amendment Protest

You don't bring them to a riot.
You don't bring them to a simple tour of the Capitol Building.

They have no purpose cached in a backpack as you get-off at an aggrieved and inciting Trump speech beforehand.

They're for detaining people. I'm sure that those who had them weren't planning on detaining any misbehaving Hate-triots, because the whole premise was misbehavior and mischief. And for some, it was confrontation, detention, violence - against people who were a) working in the Capitol, b) not sufficiently Trump-aligned. No guess who belongs in the intersection of that Venn diagram.

Some of these folks also brought weapons, wore body armor, knew unpublished locations of offices of specific Congressional members. None of that stuff is necessary for attending a 1st Amendment protest, as the DoD is calling it. They were there to either overpower and do harm to members of our country's Congressional representation, impede and influence the result of the Electoral process, or both. These are felonies.

All of these people were not simple trespassers, but direct participants, or accessories to, a destructive, armed, violent and murderous insurrection against the Government of the United States, as dis-organized as it may have been, and should be treated as such. Don't charge them with something light and release them on their own recognizance; over-charge them and let some judge or prosecutor winnow down the charges later. Lock them up, or they'll be back sooner than you think. Maybe in another 10 days, or so. If they were deranged enough to attempt this, the true-believers among them are probably not especially discouraged.

Hey, Susan Collins! What exactly was that "big lesson" that Trump learned...

when you voted to acquit Trump and not remove him from office? Just wondering.

Got yourself a pretty big ball of twine to untangle, now. Oh - and then there's this whole pandemic thing you might want to look into. Tremendous number of citizens dying - bigly!

Thy basket runneth over...

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"Yeah, democracy ain't so fun when it f*cks you, huh?"

"Fine, let’s take a vote. Who wants fish for dinner?...Yeah, democracy ain’t so fun when it fucks you, huh?”

- Sam Halpern, the revered and immortal comic / dad of "Sh*t My Dad Says" fame.

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