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Australia Enjoys Another Peaceful Day Under Oppressive Gun Control Regime

Due to the nation’s controversial and oppressive gun restrictions, no one has died as a result of a mass-shooting on Australian soil today, for the 7158th day in a row.

Local cinema attendant, Christina Upton can’t believe it has been a whole 19 years and 7 months since a heavily armed white Australian male decided to shoot at a crowd of unsuspecting Australian civilians for no reason.

She says the peaceful two decades that have followed are “probably” because the Australian government decided to strip her of a God-given right to own projectile weaponry capable of shooting down helicopters.

“Yeah, I mean the Yanks come across as sick people. This year there have been more mass shootings in America than calendar dates… But it wasn’t that long ago that Australia had postal workers holding their entire office hostage with AR-15s”

Ms Upton, who claims to be able to walk freely outside of her home without fear of being killed by a mass shooter, believes that God-given rights probably play a bigger role in America’s mass shootings than Americans think.

“I don’t think America should be so hard on itself about the mental state of thousands of lonely white virgins. We have those people too,”

“…Just in our country those people don’t have access to Russian-made automatic assault rifles that have been invented purely to help military personnel win wars,”

“If I was in America, I’d be terrified of working in a cinema – for fear that one of these losers would use their God-given rights to murder me in cold blood,”

Per 100,000 residents in Australia, less than 1 are expected to be killed by a firearm this year. This is heavily contrasted to the 10.5 in 100,000 who will be killed in America.

Local cop, Uncle Rick Ridgeway, says that this is because idiots have a harder time getting their hands on machine guns than criminals.

“I think America needs to realise that it’s not really the criminals you need to worry about as such. I’d be more concerned about the weirdos,”

“Criminals use guns to help their efforts in making money through crime – they have much less interest in killing you,”

“Weirdos use guns to shoot up medical centres and primary schools for no reason other than the fact that they want to use their God-given rights,”

“In Australia. Our weirdos are forced to write stern letters.”


100,000 + RALLY BERNIE SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT - Washington, DC - Saturday, November 28, 2015

Is this legitimate? Is it happening for real? Does anyone know?


A compulsory gun buyback scheme that would work for $42,641 per life saved

Compulsory gun buyback schemes have worked successfully in many countries, but such a thing is politically difficult in the USA.

One way to negate the public hysteria is to create a climate in which the public WANT to hand in their guns.

MONEY is a good motivator

Lots of MONEY

The following Compulsory Gun Buyback prices would motivate people to WANT to hand in their guns, or if they didn’t they can apply for a license.

Categories and amounts

Category A:
Description: Rimfire rifles (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles including semi automatic, and paintball gun.
Buyback Amount: $500
License available: YES - A "Genuine Reason" must be provided for a Category A firearm.
Compulsory buyback for unlicensed owners: YES
Optional buyback for licensed owners: YES

Category B:
Description: Centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901.
Buyback Amount: $1000
License available: YES - Apart from a "Genuine Reason", a "Genuine Need" must be demonstrated, including why a Category A firearm would not be suitable. A category B license also covers category A but not vice versa
Compulsory buyback for unlicensed owners: YES
Optional buyback for licensed owners: YES

Category C:
Description: Self-loading rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or self-loading shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds.
Buyback Amount: $2000
License available: YES - May be owned by primary producers, occupational shooters, firearm dealers, firearm safety officers, collectors and some clay target shooters can own functional Category C firearms.
Compulsory buyback for unlicensed owners: YES
Optional buyback for licensed owners: YES

Category D:
Description: Self-loading centrefire rifles, pump-action or self-loading shotguns holding more than 5 rounds.
Buyback Amount: $5000
License available: YES - restricted to government agencies and occupational shooters. Collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms.
Compulsory buyback for unlicensed owners: YES
Optional buyback for licensed owners: YES

Category H:
Description: Handguns including air pistols and deactivated handguns.
Buyback Amount: $5000
License available: YES - This class is available to target shooters and certain security guards whose job requires possession of a firearm. To be eligible for a Category H firearm, a target shooter must serve a probationary period of 6 months using club handguns, after which they may apply for a permit. They must participate in a minimum number of matches yearly to retain the license.
Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 or 9mm calibre or less and magazines may hold a maximum of 10 rounds.
Participants in certain "approved" pistol competitions may acquire handguns up to .45".
Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is approved for 9mm/.38/.357 sig, handguns that meet the IPSC rules, but larger calibres are not approved for IPSC handgun shooting. Category H barrels must be at least 100mm (3.94" long for revolvers, and 120mm (4.72" for semi-automatic pistols unless the pistols are clearly ISSF target pistols; magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handguns held as part of a collection were exempted from these limits.
Compulsory buyback for unlicensed owners: YES
Optional buyback for licensed owners: YES

Category R/E: Restricted weapons, such as machine guns, rocket launchers, full automatic self loading rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, and other artillery weapons.
Buyback Amount: $10,000
Optional buyback for permanently inoperable weapons: YES - Buyback Amount: $1,000
Compulsory buyback for working (or able to be made working) weapons: YES
License available: YES – for permanently inoperable weapons only and subject to storage requirements.

All buybacks are “no questions asked”, and can be paid for by check or cash at the choice of the person handing them over.


Number of guns in the USA (2011): 270,000
People in the USA (2011): 339,900
Victims of gun-related death (2011): 33000
Annual deaths per 100,000 people (2011): 10.3

Australia's gun deaths per 100,000 people: 0.86
Projected USA annual gun deaths if it had the same rate of deaths as Australia's: 2,923
Lives saved: 30,077

Percentage of guns handed in via the Compulsory Gun Buyback (estimated): 95%
Number of Guns handed in (estimated): 256,500
Average price (estimated): $5,000
Total Cost at the above estimations: $1,282,500,000

Cost per life saved: $42,641


A system such as this would act
- Motivate people to want to hand in their guns
- will encourage criminals to sell their guns to the buyback, and to steal their friends guns to sell them to the buyback too
- allow Gun Shop Owners to retire, they can sell all of their stock and go and do something else
- will give a huge economic boost into the economy

Questions to discuss
1. Would people willingly hand over their guns at these prices?
2. Would it achieve the goal of getting guns off the streets?
3. Would it give the USA an economic boost because of all of the cash being pumped into the economy?
4. Would the republican voters support it (I think they would, because they would want the money for their guns)
5. In an economy the size of the USA's, is a billion dollars on a national scale affordable to achieve a safe society?

With the decades of gridlock and debate with no solution forthcoming… who thinks that this bold plan could work?

How much money is a life worth? $42,641?

Let the debate begin …

Data sources:

Great new video explaining Democratic Socialism


Well done Occupy Democrats!

Democratic Socialism explained by BernieSaners in 2006

Bernie Sanders: I think [democratic socialism] means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship all of our people have healthcare; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality childcare, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. That’s all it means.



It seems to me that the word "Socialist" is tarnished, and a big part of any debate with a Right Winger is defining and explaining what Democratic Socialism really is. I have found Bernie's words above helpful in explaining it ... and also I regularly use the following definition that I have created myself:

Democratic Socialism means having a democratically elected government spend money on infrastructure and social services that benefit society.

Will this happen? Bernie Sanders: Enough is Enough Rally. 100,000 People to march on Washington!


Washington, District of Columbia

Imagine if 100,000 people traveled to Washington D.C. to hear Bernie Sanders speak! Think of the message that would send!

100,000 people already gathered for Bernie across the nation on July 29, 2015. We can do it again, this time together in D.C.!

What you can do to make this happen:
1) Go here: https://www.facebook.com/events/1636611586577118/
2) RSVP by clicking Join and select 'Going'
3) Click on Invite to invite friends you know
4) Click on Share to spread the word about this Bernie event!

NOTE: This is only an IDEA at this stage. If the event gets enough RSVPs (100,000) the organisers will submit it to Bernie's campaign team for endorsement and coordination. At the time of writing this 91,000 have already RSVP'd to the facebook event to attend.

Click the link below & sign up to volunteer for Bernie's campaign efforts locally, for the DC rally or regional rallies near you:

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