Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, were killed in a gun battle with police after a mass shooting
Police said 14 died and 21 were injured after suspects opened fire at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino
Suspects left explosive devices rigged to a remote-controlled toy car at the center before fleeing in an SUV
While the motive for the massacre remains unclear, Farook reportedly clashed with a Jewish co-worker over religion
Farook got into a heated argument with Nicholas Thalasinos, a Messianic Jew, who was named as one of the victims
But lawyers for the Farook family said he was subjected to a series of disparaging comments about his traditional Muslim appearance
It emerged that Farook brought his wife to the US on a 90-day K-1 fiancee visa and that she passed counterterrorism screening as part of her vetting
Farook's older brother, Syed Raheel Farook, is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror
Their mother Rafia, 62, was held for questioning in the wake of the mass shooting after cops pulled her over in one of her other son's SUVs and she was released without charge the next day
Police and federal agents searched a Redlands home, seizing 5,000 bullets, 12 pipe bombs and tools to make IEDs
Investigators said Farook was in touch by phone and via social media with international terrorism subjects
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The San Bernardino shooting appears to have been triggered by a dispute.
While the cause of the dispute is unknown, the deep religiosity of the shooter doesn't appear to have had a calming influence.
ONE OF the suspects in Wednesdays mass shooting in California was identified as a young father who worked for the county agency that had been holding a holiday party when the carnage unfolded. Syed Farook, believed to be 30, was linked to the horrific slaughter that left 14 dead at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.
Farooks father was shocked to learn of his sons possible involvement in the attack. I havent heard anything, the elder Syed Farook told the Daily News. He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. Hes Muslim. The shell-shocked dad said his son worked as a health technician inspecting restaurants and hotels and graduated from La Sierra High School in 2003.
Police said that there had been a dispute during the San Bernardino County Department of Health holiday event at the Inland Regional Center. The Los Angeles Times reported Farook bolted from the holiday bash after arguing with another attendee, and then returned a short time later with the other two shooters.
He was quiet but always polite, Maria Gutierrez told The News. Maybe two years ago he became more religious. He grew a beard and started to wear religious clothing. The long shirt thats like a dress and the cap on his head.
Repost from GD, but the cover is too good to pass in 'Religion':
With less than one year to go, the polls for the Republican contenders look problematic:
No member of the pack emerges above a lackluster 10%, except:
Carson, decreasing to 20%, and whose religious views will scare even sane believers
Trump, up to 35%,
embroiled in countless lies http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/wow_seth_meyers_just_stripped_down_donald_trumps_lies_and_islamophobia_so_clearly_even_your_racist_uncle_will_get_it_now/
and whose idea to create a Muslim database highlights his authoritarianism http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wants-to-create-a-muslim-database-2015-11?IR=T&r=US&IR=T
Bar an October surprise, and unless Detective Frank Drebin comes to the rescue,
is it game over for Republicans in 2016?
I have made that claim and different people asked me for the sources.
(50% is obviously a rough gage, nearer to 2/3rds in Muslim countries, nearer to 1/3rd in the West)
So, here is the best info I gathered on the subject in this one thread. I welcome any better data.
Support for Sharia is well over 50% in Asia (Indian subcontinent and Malaysia/Indonesia), the Middle East ('Arab' countries, Iran not polled) and Africa (Maghreb and Sub-Saharan Africa)
It is below 50% in the mostly ex-Communist region roughly between Turkey and Russia (incl. Kemal's Turkey)
UK: 40% Muslims support Sharia (2006)
The question asked being: "How supportive, if at all, would you be of the official introduction of Shari'ah Law into British law for Muslims in Britain?"
Very supportive - 21%
Fairly supportive - 19%"
US: 33% Muslims support Sharia (2015)
The Center for Security Policy is Conservative, but the whole study report is presented
"If Sharia conflicts with the US Constitution and the Bill of Rigts, which law should be considered supreme?"
The US Constitution - 43%
Sharia - 33%
dk+na - 23%"
Germany: 34 to 45% support for Sharia (2007) (academic study for Ministry of Interior)
Long study, no specific question on Sharia, some pointers:
45% of German Muslims agree "only Islam is able to solve the problems of our time" (p. 120, Table 12)
34 % of German Muslims agree violence is justified to disseminate Islam. (p. 319, Table 79)
23% young German Muslims are strongly antisemitic/anti-Christian (p.496.3rd paragraph)
France: 17% to 54% support for Sharia (2008) (French poll)
"Islamic Law (Sharia) should be applied"
- fully, independently of the country of abode: 17%
- partly, adapted to the rules of the country of abode: 37%
- not at all in 'non-Muslim' countries: 38%
Posted a rant by a crackpot Orthodox blaming the islamist Paris attacks on the Mossad.
Someone took the pain to answer the obvious with due solemnity, i.e. that this lone religious youtube nutjob did not represent all of his religion of choosing (he's a converted Jew, apparently). That someone must have certainly thought he was telling me something I had never heard before, right?. I mean, it's not as if he had tried to lay the context for an alert, I'm sure. People are not that perverse.
I countered that it was just good comedy relief after Paris to observe how religion fosters religious mania and religious nutjobs (ISIS, this Orthodox Pope). Something that many mainstream believers in religion find hard to accept, I know.
After 10 posts back and forth about religious mania, the debate was brought to a halt by someone who thought it was the 'spiritual' thing to do to alert. Reasons for hiding were so literal (to shut off antisemitic propaganda) I will have to think about posting huge signs to spell the obvious. Something like quarter screen banners with subtle messages like: "The person posting DOES NOT SHARE the fringe views posted here, but does it for X, Y and Z reasons"
Thanks to the alerter anyway. I'm sure he alerted out of religious goodness
with a good heart, and the best of charitable intentions.
So, let's see if I get it straight (accidental pun)
shooter kills people to further the cause of IS while visiting gay bars.
Meanwhile, IS thinks the right treatment of gay people is to throw them from tall buildings.
Someone isn't doing their maths right..
Mohamed, who was initially detained in Belgium but later released, urged intelligent Salah, 26, to hand himself into police, telling the RTBF network: Wed rather see him in jail than in a cemetery.
His comments come as it was claimed that Salah, Europe's most wanted man, was a regular in Brussels gay bars, smoked cannabis and spent most of his time playing on his PlayStation.
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One tweet says "Metro closed, all football games cancelled and city center looks like military base.
#Brussels 2015 #Bruxelles 7:13 PM - 21 Nov 2015
by Tyler Durden on 11/21/2015 18:19 -0500
In the aftermath of last night's warning of an "imminent" terror threat in Brussels when OCAM Crisis Center and the government raised the country's terror alert to the highest level, today the escalation continues and the Belgian capital looks like not only a ghost town but something out of a Call of Duty warzone after authorities deployed special forces, and APCs, shut the metro, locked down shopping centers, closed sporting events, and warned the public to avoid crowds, train stations, airports and commercial districts because of a "serious and imminent" threat of an attack.(..)
The reason for the dramatic escalation is that chemicals and explosives were among the items found in the during a police raid on Vandepeerboom Street area in the immigrant neighborhood of Molenbeek, a rundown area where Paris attacker Abdelhamid Abaaoud was suspected of operating a terrorist cell.
Reposting from General Discussion, but it's too funny for the Religion forum to miss out
Examples of the Lawrence-free poster, seen below, have been shared by the Israeli newspaper Ynet and on Twitter.
To outsiders, the censorship seems bizarre: Lawrence is, after all, the star of the film, and one of Hollywoods most bankable actresses
But the decision was apparently made due to concerns that posters featuring the actress would be vandalised by Orthodox Jewish groups.
Unfortunately we are subject to unofficial coercion that forces us to be more careful, Liron Suissa, the vice president of Nur Star Media (the films Israeli PR company) told Ynet (via Haaretz). We have had endless vandalisation and clients prefer not to take the chance.(..)
In Bnei Brak a almost wholly Haredi city , governed by Haredi leaders images of women are rarely seen in public spaces.