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Talking points or just fun, either is a positive

I like rhymes because for me they're easier to remember

1)The people come first
solve hunger and thirst
2)What's the price of labor
to help a needy neighbor
3)Without a seed
there is a need
4)Every person you can reach
you can teach
5)Education is for all
tear down the money wall
6)The people will find their voice
when evil removes choice
7)Uniting the trinity
allows infinity
8)Hear the people's cries
why must we pay to be wise
9)It is smart
to think with your heart
10)Our path
is more than science and math
11)Don't overlook
your experience in the book
12)When money is power
it's our last hour
13)When unity reigns
everyone gains
14)If everything is no
where do we go?
15)If you feel small
think tall
16)If you are weak
SEEK
17)Is it a crime
to go beyond time
18)TRUTH
a fountain of youth
19)If its right
unite
20)Hug your kid
no matter what they did
21)Don't let sin
WIN
22)While corporations easily sleep
many painfully weep
23)All TRULY living
are giving
24)BLESS
those who have less
25)Don't say goodbye
turn around and say HI
26)If you sell your soul for a dollar
expect a leash or a collar
27)If schools can't compete
We become the poor and the elite
28)People's feelings
are above corporate dealings
29)Why are we reliant
on any Wall Street giant?
30)Wall Street economics
read the comics
31)Redistribute
man's tribute
32)A corporation is a thing
not a human being

Rhymes have a way on catching on with the people

Corporations = cor-POOR-ations

Maybe a mental illness approach would be successful. Words like; Unstable, Betrayal, Ignorance,Addiction, Escape Artists, Empty People, Psychologically Wounded and Sociopathic could be pinned to a corporate person. (personhood)


Is Greed Ever Good? The Psychology of Selfishness
What is the relationship between greed, evil and spirituality?
Published on March 25, 2009 by Stephen A. Diamond, Ph.D. in Evil Deeds


Greed is a hot topic today, stoked in part by investment broker Bernie Madoff's fifty-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme, the Wall Street collapse, the AIG scandal, and the bursting of an overinflated housing bubble--all built on the unbridled greed of investors, buyers and lenders. Of course, viewing greed as selfish, sinful or evil is nothing new. Greed or avarice, after all, is specifically cited as one of the Seven Deadly Sins by the Catholic Church. And Dante Alighieri's Inferno dedicates an entire circle of Hell to the painful punishment of the greedy. But is greed ever good?

Greed, like lust and gluttony, is traditionally considered a sin of excess. But greed tends to be applied to the acquisition of material wealth in particular. St. Thomas Aquinas said that greed is "a sin against God, just as all mortal sins, in as much as man condemns things eternal for the sake of temporal things." So greed or avarice was seen by the Church as sinful due to its overvaluation of the mundane rather than immaterial or spiritual aspects of existence. Avarice can describe various greedy behaviors such as betrayal or treason for personal gain, hoarding of material things, theft, robbery, and fraudulent schemes such as Madoff's, designed to dishonestly manipulate others for personal profit. Where does greed originate?
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Both greed and gluttony correspond closely with what Guatama Buddha called desire: an overattachment to the material world and its pleasures which is at the root of all human suffering. Greed is about never being satisfied with what one has, always wanting and expecting more. It is an insatiable hunger. A profound form of gluttony. Where does greed breed? Paradoxically, greed really arises from too little inner selfishness. That's right. Greed grows from ignorance (unconsciousness) of one's self. Addiction is a form of greed. Addicts always want more of what gets them high, gives them pleasure, enables escape from anxiety, suffering, themselves. They greedily crave that which their substance or rituals of choice provide, be it drugs, sex, gambling, food, pornography, internet, television, fame, power or money. We all have our personal addictions: workaholism, rationalism, shopaholism, perfectionism etc. This is our futile attempt to fill a spiritual and emotional emptiness within, to gratify some long-buried need, to heal or at least numb some festering psychological wound. Such self-defeating behaviors are rooted in formerly unmet infantile needs, childhood and adult trauma, as well as failure to appropriately be sufficiently selfish in the present. We strive instead to avoid the Self.

Greed is a type of selfishness. And most of us are taught from childhood that selfishness is sinful, bad or evil. But is selfishness necessarily nasty? Negative? Unspiritual? Sacrilegious? Narcissistic? Antisocial? Or can selfishness sometimes be a good thing? Healthy. Necessary. Positive. Even spiritual. Can we get too selfless for our own good? Is self-abnegation always what's best for your psyche? Or soul?

Can being more selfish in the right way restore rather than reduce the soul? Shrink and regulate the grandiose ego? When does selfishness cross the line into egoism, self-indulgence, greed, sociopathy and pathological narcissism? Psychotherapy patients struggle regularly with the issue of selfishness: both with the gluttonous narcissism of excessive selfishness and the soul-starving, saintly rejection of healthy selfishness. Often, they feel conflicted and guilt-stricken about acknowledging and asserting their own selfish needs, feelings, wishes and wants. Is nurturing one's own soul or sense of self selfish? Trying to attain one's innermost needs? Actualizing one's innate creative potential? Constructively expressing one's self and will in the world? And, if so, could this sort of selfishness be positive, beneficial or therapeutic? These are vital questions for both psychotherapy and spiritual development. Because the right kind of selfishness--an honoring of the true Self--is essential to emotional and spiritual self-healing. And to finding and fulfilling one's destiny. So what is the secret to being selfish in the right way, at the right time, and in the right measure?

One of the most difficult tasks for psychotherapy patients is learning to be selfish in the proper way. I call this spiritual selfishness. Becoming more self-ish. Attentive to the Self. Selfishness that centers around, attunes to, acknowledges and honors the needs of the self is what is required. Not the selfish, neurotic, childish demands of the ego. That would still be mundane greed or narcissism. But the needs of what C.G. Jung termed the Self: the complete person, the whole enchilada, of which ego is only part. The Self represents both the center and totality of the personality. Honoring the Self is not simple. It requires persistence, patience, humility, courage and commitment. But this long-term investment in one's Self can provide a powerful antidote to greed, gluttony, avarice and addiction.

It is easy and convenient to condemn the selfish greed we see all around us. We live in a society that worships success, celebrity and money. But what of the greed within? Are we not all greedy in some way? It is when we deny and project our own greed that it becomes most dangerous. So first, one must recognize that we all have greed for something. That is human nature. Recognize it and what it says about oneself and one's life rather than righteously rejecting or denying it. Greed is about being selfish, but in the wrong way. What is the right way of being selfish? How does one become more spiritually rather than greedily self-ish?

First we must seek out the Self. This subtle process begins by listening more carefully and regularly to your own inner thoughts, feelings, impulses, perceptions and needs. Listening initially non-judgementally, without preconception or attachment. Identifying your conscious and unconscious intentionality. Also by paying closer attention to your dreams, through which the Self speaks directly to us. If we are ready to listen. Discovering and discerning the dictates of the core Self is not easy and takes time. The right kind of psychotherapy can help in this process. So can meditation. But once the Self has been encountered and spoken, it becomes our responsibility to discerningly obey its requests. Refusal to do so is at one's own peril, as poor Jonah discovered. Summoning the courage to be selfish in the sense of religiously attending to and following the Self's sacred directions leads, paradoxically, not to greater greed and gluttony, but to a more grounded, balanced, mature, meaningful and spiritual life. A life informed and guided by the Self.

Dictatorship dems

If we want to scourge the cancer, we have to call it cancer.

We have one corporate party with 2 names giving it almost supreme authority over the state.

To bust this up you have to get the people repulsed or adverse to even the sound of their mere existence while positively promoting our principles. Working both sides is the fastest way.

Calling them Third Wayers is milky toast at best. The focus is to reach low-information voters who don't know what Third Way is or means. Low-information , by its nature, means their not going to research it but if we associate it with Dictatorship, they know what that is.

If we learned anything from the repubs it is wordsmithing is vital, especially with this corrupt media.

Next step, making the word corporations smell and taste rancid.

Remember ole Georgie Bush's quote,"If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier...as long as I'm the dictator, Hehehe."

Can IgnoreUs trade authority voters be changed to IncludeUs trade authority voters

IMO overcoming this devastating procedure would entail changing Obama's stance and/or securing the necessary "NO" votes to send it into forgotten land.

The "NO" votes
!) Changing the IgnoreUS-Track dems to the IncludeUs-track dems won't be easy.
Remember the Obama/Dimon team working their undisclosed magic.
2)Changing the repub "Yes" votes to "No" may be a little easier.
a)Taking away Congresses constitutionally granted powers, the identical approach to dems,
could have an impact.
b)If we "TRULY" want to stop this, we mustn't ignore the anti-Obama sentiment that exists
with the repubs. How we cultivate this into enough "No" votes w/o offending some dems
will be tricky.

Changing Obama's stance
1) If anyone has any suggestions beyond a petition campaign, I would love to hear them.

Terminology
Would IgnoreUs - EmbraceUs or ExcludeUs - IncludeUs be more effective?

Can the IgnoreUs-Track trade authority voters be changed to IncludeUs-Track voters?

IMO overcoming this devastating procedure would entail changing Obama's stance and/or securing the necessary "NO" votes to send it into forgotten land.

The "NO" votes
!) Changing the IgnoreUS-Track dems to the IncludeUs-track dems won't be easy.
Remember the Obama/Dimon team working their undisclosed magic.
2)Changing the repub "Yes" votes to "No" may be a little easier.
a)Taking away Congresses constitutionally granted powers, the identical approach to dems,
could have an impact.
b)If we "TRULY" want to stop this, we mustn't ignore the anti-Obama sentiment that exists
with the repubs. How we cultivate this into enough "No" votes w/o offending some dems
will be tricky.

Changing Obama's stance
1) If anyone has any suggestions beyond a petition campaign, I would love to hear them.

Terminology
Would IgnoreUs - EmbraceUs or ExcludeUs - IncludeUs be more effective?

How can anyone reform the democratic party

if populist principles aren't fought for.

The secrecy of TPP and all stated opposition on this group's postings are a clear indication of a non-populist trade deal.

Obama publicly supports this deal and is avidly fighting for its passage.

So how do we fight back?

Where are the lines drawn on Obama criticism, since he is working against us on this matter.

Do we casually criticize and watch as Obama, Dimon and the corporate team sweep to victory.

Or do we fight with everything we got because they sure aren't playing nice on the other side.

Please inform me of the subjective line of when it is Obama bashing and when it is not?

This is a discussion post and I would like to know what tools we have and can use that aren't Obama bashing

If the ObamaSecret deal is passed,

can the people expect less transparency going forward? Fast track insures the corporate dictatorships input is pasted into this bill for its duration. Please call your reps and ask if they support this OBAMASECRET deal.

Do you think if they can get away with these they won't be shy to try and legislate Fast Track (or probably a different name) into other bills?

Are today's global corporations dictatorships?

Global corporations are too big to jail, too big to fail

Global corporations have their own judicial systems (investor-state tribunals)

Global corporations own politicians and write their own laws

Global corporations are pursuing "Free Markets" with no regulations or restrictions
"Free Markets = "Lawless Markets"

Global corporations are now people, only when they choose to be (murder convictions)

AND THE BEAT GOES ON

How about this populist plan

Let's urge Bernie to run as a Dem into the primary and if he sees he will lose. then switch to the Green's or run as an Independent spoiler. When HRC comes with hat in hand asking Bernie to drop out knowing she can't win with a split Dem base, then let Bernie put forth his demands.

He wants total control of DNC, DSCC, DCCC funds and he will run only Populist/Progressive candidates of his choice in all house and senate races. Any right-wing dem incumbents who won't fit in will be forced to retire and he will put together his 50-state strategy

We must find our places of power and exploit them. The Nadar spoiler role is still fresh in the minds of party leadership.

I know this is all premised on how much the PTB want HRC as President because a repub will do just as well for them. The more we can expose this corporate dem corruption, the more Populist votes we can amass.

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