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Why Medical Personnel Are Getting Ebola (Nurses' Union Is Begging For Help)

The CDC guidelines have NOT BEEN ADEQUATE!


It is very difficult to remove the second glove with a bare hand because that still dirty second glove overlaps the still dirty cuff of your gown.

Then, using your BARE hands you are supposed to remove your own gown by reaching behind you. This assumes that no one ever gets contaminated on their back side!

And on and on! This is NOT adequate PPE.

I worked in a hospital lab as an assistant and phlebotomist. We rarely took extra precautions when we saw a patient (normal cover was a disposable lab coat over our scrubs and gloves when dealing with patient). Extra precautions were not part of our daily routine. When we (rarely) saw a patient presenting with possible tuberculosis, we'd all get that "I'm doing this correctly? Right?" look when donning our PPEs (personnel protective equipment) and then removing them.

People are assuming that medical personnel are accustomed to suiting up and then removing their PPE , but with exceptions of surgical personnel (who suit up to protect the patient more than themselves and generally just "yank" off their gown and gloves), most medical staff rarely wear and then REMOVE PROPERLY the level of PPE required for diseases like ebola.

Yesterday on CNN the spokesperson for the nurses' union was pleading for more training for nurses around the country. Their polling suggesting that the majority of nurses in this country do not feel adequately trained to handle ebola patients.

Hospital personnel working with ebola patients need an immediate upgrade to better PPEs and need to learn to work on the buddy system to remove them, imo.

This is not a "Texas" problem" or a "Dallas Presbyterian Hospital" problem. Mistakes have been made (like sending Mr. Duncan home the first time), but this is a country wide problem of nurses not being adequately trained and and not having periodic drills on how to deal with this type of situation, imo.

The problem lies with the CDC guidelines as well as the "bottom line" hospitals, imo. And for the record, Dallas Presbyterian is a teaching hospital, where one of my kids did her nursing school clinicals. It is considered a good hospital, and is probably as good or better than most hospitals in the U.S.
Posted by TexasMommaWithAHat | Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:32 AM (8 replies)

CDC on TV NOW (3:19 ET) With New Guidelines

The CDC will send in an expert team to any hospital in the country WITHIN HOURS of a confirmed case of ebola.

And more.

(I'm watching CNN)
Posted by TexasMommaWithAHat | Tue Oct 14, 2014, 02:20 PM (5 replies)

Why Ebola Patients Are Getting Treatment in Nebraska

"Freelance journalist Ashoka Mukpo, who contracted Ebola in Liberia, arrived at the University of Nebraska Medical Center today, becoming the second patient with the deadly disease to be treated there.

Why is he being sent to Nebraska instead of some other facility? Because the hospital is home to the largest of four high-level biocontainment patient care units in the U.S..."

More at http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/10/06/354083214/why-ebola-patients-are-getting-treatment-in-nebraska

No they aren't taking any chances with actual, known ebola patients entering the U.S. Too bad some stupid fool made a terrible mistake with Mr. Duncan in Dallas. You think the people that had contact with him aren't scared shitless right now? Especially the EMTs?

Posted by TexasMommaWithAHat | Mon Oct 6, 2014, 06:01 PM (4 replies)

Well, is everyone afraid of the subway threat, yet?

Bomb, bomb, bomb,

bomb, bomb, Iran.

A response of mine from below

I think New Yorkers might have reason to fear

But when you want to wage war, it's good to instill some fear.

How in the heck do ordinary citizens know which threats are real threats and which aren't? I sure don't trust the powers that be in charge of our intelligence, and that's what the president has to rely on.

Stay safe.
Posted by TexasMommaWithAHat | Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:36 PM (62 replies)

Hi From Texas

Notice my name.

Posted by TexasMommaWithAHat | Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:07 AM (1 replies)
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