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“‘Civil Rights’ and Violence: Who Are the Guilty Ones?”, The National Review Sept. 7th, 1965

Why am I reminded of recent criticisms of Black Lives Matter when I read this old editorial on MLK Jr. from the National Review?

Sometimes it seems that the more things change, the more things stay the same.

Will Herberg, “‘Civil Rights’ and Violence: Who Are the Guilty Ones?”, The National Review Sept. 7th, 1965, pp. 769-770

It did not come easy for us in this country, under the weight of the vast influx of immigrants and the residual effects of the frontier tradition, to consolidate a secure internal order based on custom and respect for constituted authority; but finally we managed. This internal order is now in jeopardy; and it is in jeopardy because of the doings of such high-minded, self-righteous “children of light” as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates in the leadership of the “civil rights” movement. If you are looking for those ultimately responsible for the murder, arson, and looting in Los Angeles, look to them: they are the guilty ones, these apostles of “non-violence.”

For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the “cake of custom” that holds us together. With their doctrine of “civil disobedience,” they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes — particularly the adolescents and the children — that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted “school strikes,” sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed — and, no doubt, with the best of intentions — and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. But it is not they alone who reap it, but we as well; the entire nation.

It is worth noting that the worst victims of these high-minded rabble-rousers are not so much the hated whites, but the great mass of the Negro people themselves. The great mass of the Negro people cannot be blamed for the lawlessness and violence in Harlem, Chicago, Los Angeles, or elsewhere. All they want to do is what decent people everywhere want to do: make a living, raise a family, bring up their children as good citizens, with better advantages than they themselves ever had. The “civil rights” movement and the consequent lawlessness has well nigh shattered these hopes; not only because of the physical violence and insecurity, but above all because of the corruption and demoralization of the children, who have been lured away from the steady path of decency and self-government to the more exhilarating road of ‘demonstration’ — and rioting. An old friend of mine from Harlem put it to me after the riots last year: “For more than fifteen years we’ve worked our heads off to make something out of these boys. Now look at them–they’re turning into punks and hoodlums roaming the streets.

http://themoderatevoice.com/15520/recall-the-words-of-the-national-review/

Why do some pro-gun advocates on DU want university faculty fired?

I can't tell you how many times that I've had a pro-gun advocate tell me right here on DU on that I should be fired from my job teaching mathematics at a public university.

Do they just hate education?

Is it anti-intellectualism?

Have they been watching too many episodes of The Apprentice?

Is it part of some Faculty Union-Busting fantasy?

Why would people who claim to be Democrats want people fired?

We're only three weeks from the Democratic Caucus here in Iowa.

That's a hell of a time for folks on some Democratic website to start telling us that they want us fired from our jobs.

This is not the proper way to relate to voters.



Oldest Mosque in Nation Invites Donald Trump to Visit (Mother Mosque of America, Cedar Rapids, Iowa)

X-posted from the Iowa group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10513866
GD: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027529248


Oldest Mosque in America Invites Donald Trump to Visit

The day that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump released his first television ad in Iowa—marketing himself as America’s savior against “radical Islamic terrorism”—a leading Iowa imam responded not in fear of increased anti-Muslim backlash but with an invitation for Trump himself.

“As an imam and director of the first mosque of North America, I, Imam Tawil, declare that we would love to have our candidate Donald Trump to come and talk to his fellow citizens who have been born here, whose parents were born here, as Americans, to come talk to us about his plans, to come to tell us his philosophy, and to tell us how he can help us out as American citizens,” Tawil tells TIME.

It is an ironic historical twist that Iowa, where Trump is pushing anti-Muslim fervor to increase his presidential appeal, is also home to one of America’s most established Muslim communities. Tawil leads the Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids, which is the oldest surviving mosque not just in the United States but also in North America. The community dates to Syrians who settled in the Cedar Rapids area in the late 1800s, and Mother Mosque formally opened in 1934 in the midst of the Great Depression. The area is also home to the Muslim National Cemetery, whose land in honor of military servicemen who fought in World War II.

Today Cedar Rapids is home to three mosques. Mother Mosque operates more as a cultural center for non-Muslims, while the nearby Islamic Center of Cedar Rapids is main center for prayer and religious services some 2,000 Muslim families in the Cedar Rapids area, Tawil explains. Only about 1% of Iowans are Muslim, mirroring the national average, according to the Pew Research Center.

“[Candidates] say things to market themselves, and get votes … it is their job to make us look bad,” Tawil says. “Unfortunately, they are wasting their money, they are not gaining anything, because the community knows who you are, and we are dealing with the fourth generation [of Muslims in Iowa].”

Mother Mosque’s own Iowa pride runs deep. A photo caption on the group’s website reads, “Is this heaven? No, it is Cedar Rapids, Iowa!” At times its welcome page seems more about Iowa than about Islam: “The Mother Mosque is in IOWA, the hearthland of America, Cedar Rapids, Iowa where hospitality, generousity, and tolerance is well known facts,” a history section on its website reads. “From fields of tulips … to the field of dreams … From covered bridges … to covered wagon … From America’s castles … to classic barns … From fields of corns … to Quaker Oat … From Czech Museum … to the Mother Mosque of America … IOWA welcomes you.”

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http://time.com/4167859/donald-trump-mosque-visit-iowa/


Iowa Muslim Leader Invites Trump To Cedar Rapids Mosque


Mother Mosque in Cedar Rapids
Mother Mosque website


The head of a Cedar Rapids mosque is inviting Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to meet with members of the Muslim community. Imam Taha Tawil of the Mother Mosque says his members would like to hear about Trump’s plans if he’s elected, and have a chance to talk to him about Muslims’ role in the U-S over the last 100-plus years.

Tawil said on IPR’s River to River program Friday that Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S., and other comments on the campaign trail, have been damaging to Muslims throughout the country, though there has been no backlash directed at his mosque.

“The internet is full of incidents, people throwing [the] heads of pigs around, vandalizing Islamic centers, burning mosques,” he said. “We have, we heard, we see…but thank God, not in Iowa.”

But Tawil says members of his community are nervous, especially women and children.

“We are feeling like the black community in the [19]30s and 40s,” he said. “We are like other minorities, the Japanese [in the U.S. during World War Two]. We are right now almost under siege.”

Tawil says Muslims have been part of the fabric of American society for more than 100 years, and he would like Trump to understand that. He hasn’t received a response from the Trump campaign yet, and Tawil plans to follow up with a formal invitation sent by registered letter.

http://iowapublicradio.org/post/iowa-muslim-leader-invites-trump-cedar-rapids-mosque#stream/0



Oldest Mosque in America Invites Donald Trump to Visit (Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids)

X-posted from the Iowa group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10513866

Oldest Mosque in America Invites Donald Trump to Visit

The day that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump released his first television ad in Iowa—marketing himself as America’s savior against “radical Islamic terrorism”—a leading Iowa imam responded not in fear of increased anti-Muslim backlash but with an invitation for Trump himself.

“As an imam and director of the first mosque of North America, I, Imam Tawil, declare that we would love to have our candidate Donald Trump to come and talk to his fellow citizens who have been born here, whose parents were born here, as Americans, to come talk to us about his plans, to come to tell us his philosophy, and to tell us how he can help us out as American citizens,” Tawil tells TIME.

It is an ironic historical twist that Iowa, where Trump is pushing anti-Muslim fervor to increase his presidential appeal, is also home to one of America’s most established Muslim communities. Tawil leads the Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids, which is the oldest surviving mosque not just in the United States but also in North America. The community dates to Syrians who settled in the Cedar Rapids area in the late 1800s, and Mother Mosque formally opened in 1934 in the midst of the Great Depression. The area is also home to the Muslim National Cemetery, whose land in honor of military servicemen who fought in World War II.

Today Cedar Rapids is home to three mosques. Mother Mosque operates more as a cultural center for non-Muslims, while the nearby Islamic Center of Cedar Rapids is main center for prayer and religious services some 2,000 Muslim families in the Cedar Rapids area, Tawil explains. Only about 1% of Iowans are Muslim, mirroring the national average, according to the Pew Research Center.

“[Candidates] say things to market themselves, and get votes … it is their job to make us look bad,” Tawil says. “Unfortunately, they are wasting their money, they are not gaining anything, because the community knows who you are, and we are dealing with the fourth generation [of Muslims in Iowa].”

Mother Mosque’s own Iowa pride runs deep. A photo caption on the group’s website reads, “Is this heaven? No, it is Cedar Rapids, Iowa!” At times its welcome page seems more about Iowa than about Islam: “The Mother Mosque is in IOWA, the hearthland of America, Cedar Rapids, Iowa where hospitality, generousity, and tolerance is well known facts,” a history section on its website reads. “From fields of tulips … to the field of dreams … From covered bridges … to covered wagon … From America’s castles … to classic barns … From fields of corns … to Quaker Oat … From Czech Museum … to the Mother Mosque of America … IOWA welcomes you.”

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http://time.com/4167859/donald-trump-mosque-visit-iowa/


Iowa Muslim Leader Invites Trump To Cedar Rapids Mosque


Mother Mosque in Cedar Rapids
Mother Mosque website


The head of a Cedar Rapids mosque is inviting Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to meet with members of the Muslim community. Imam Taha Tawil of the Mother Mosque says his members would like to hear about Trump’s plans if he’s elected, and have a chance to talk to him about Muslims’ role in the U-S over the last 100-plus years.

Tawil said on IPR’s River to River program Friday that Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S., and other comments on the campaign trail, have been damaging to Muslims throughout the country, though there has been no backlash directed at his mosque.

“The internet is full of incidents, people throwing [the] heads of pigs around, vandalizing Islamic centers, burning mosques,” he said. “We have, we heard, we see…but thank God, not in Iowa.”

But Tawil says members of his community are nervous, especially women and children.

“We are feeling like the black community in the [19]30s and 40s,” he said. “We are like other minorities, the Japanese [in the U.S. during World War Two]. We are right now almost under siege.”

Tawil says Muslims have been part of the fabric of American society for more than 100 years, and he would like Trump to understand that. He hasn’t received a response from the Trump campaign yet, and Tawil plans to follow up with a formal invitation sent by registered letter.

http://iowapublicradio.org/post/iowa-muslim-leader-invites-trump-cedar-rapids-mosque#stream/0



This Iowan wants to know how Democratic Candidates plan to pay for our bloated military.

I'd suggest holding a Bake Sale.

Oldest Mosque in America Invites Donald Trump to Visit (Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids)

Oldest Mosque in America Invites Donald Trump to Visit

The day that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump released his first television ad in Iowa—marketing himself as America’s savior against “radical Islamic terrorism”—a leading Iowa imam responded not in fear of increased anti-Muslim backlash but with an invitation for Trump himself.

“As an imam and director of the first mosque of North America, I, Imam Tawil, declare that we would love to have our candidate Donald Trump to come and talk to his fellow citizens who have been born here, whose parents were born here, as Americans, to come talk to us about his plans, to come to tell us his philosophy, and to tell us how he can help us out as American citizens,” Tawil tells TIME.

It is an ironic historical twist that Iowa, where Trump is pushing anti-Muslim fervor to increase his presidential appeal, is also home to one of America’s most established Muslim communities. Tawil leads the Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids, which is the oldest surviving mosque not just in the United States but also in North America. The community dates to Syrians who settled in the Cedar Rapids area in the late 1800s, and Mother Mosque formally opened in 1934 in the midst of the Great Depression. The area is also home to the Muslim National Cemetery, whose land in honor of military servicemen who fought in World War II.

Today Cedar Rapids is home to three mosques. Mother Mosque operates more as a cultural center for non-Muslims, while the nearby Islamic Center of Cedar Rapids is main center for prayer and religious services some 2,000 Muslim families in the Cedar Rapids area, Tawil explains. Only about 1% of Iowans are Muslim, mirroring the national average, according to the Pew Research Center.

“[Candidates] say things to market themselves, and get votes … it is their job to make us look bad,” Tawil says. “Unfortunately, they are wasting their money, they are not gaining anything, because the community knows who you are, and we are dealing with the fourth generation [of Muslims in Iowa].”

Mother Mosque’s own Iowa pride runs deep. A photo caption on the group’s website reads, “Is this heaven? No, it is Cedar Rapids, Iowa!” At times its welcome page seems more about Iowa than about Islam: “The Mother Mosque is in IOWA, the hearthland of America, Cedar Rapids, Iowa where hospitality, generousity, and tolerance is well known facts,” a history section on its website reads. “From fields of tulips … to the field of dreams … From covered bridges … to covered wagon … From America’s castles … to classic barns … From fields of corns … to Quaker Oat … From Czech Museum … to the Mother Mosque of America … IOWA welcomes you.”

snip-------------------------

http://time.com/4167859/donald-trump-mosque-visit-iowa/


Iowa Muslim Leader Invites Trump To Cedar Rapids Mosque


Mother Mosque in Cedar Rapids
Mother Mosque website


The head of a Cedar Rapids mosque is inviting Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to meet with members of the Muslim community. Imam Taha Tawil of the Mother Mosque says his members would like to hear about Trump’s plans if he’s elected, and have a chance to talk to him about Muslims’ role in the U-S over the last 100-plus years.

Tawil said on IPR’s River to River program Friday that Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S., and other comments on the campaign trail, have been damaging to Muslims throughout the country, though there has been no backlash directed at his mosque.

“The internet is full of incidents, people throwing [the] heads of pigs around, vandalizing Islamic centers, burning mosques,” he said. “We have, we heard, we see…but thank God, not in Iowa.”

But Tawil says members of his community are nervous, especially women and children.

“We are feeling like the black community in the [19]30s and 40s,” he said. “We are like other minorities, the Japanese [in the U.S. during World War Two]. We are right now almost under siege.”

Tawil says Muslims have been part of the fabric of American society for more than 100 years, and he would like Trump to understand that. He hasn’t received a response from the Trump campaign yet, and Tawil plans to follow up with a formal invitation sent by registered letter.

http://iowapublicradio.org/post/iowa-muslim-leader-invites-trump-cedar-rapids-mosque#stream/0



Politics and Religion in America

I'd vote for a dead man over this guy. How about you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251987706




UCC churches offer sanctuary from January immigration raids

(Xposted from GD)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027507133

January 05, 2016
Written by Anthony Moujaes

United Church of Christ pastors from Arizona and California to Minnesota are encouraging others in the faith community to shield families that are at-risk for deportation. Immigration enforcement officials are preparing to round up and deport hundreds of undocumented immigrants in January, according to news reports, including many who fled Central America for the United States because of escalating violence.

The Rev. Ken Heintzelman, pastor of Shadow Rock UCC in Phoenix, and his local colleagues are still figuring out how they will respond to offer assistance if there any raids in their area. Shadow Rock already provides sanctuary to one family and has helped other immigrants avoid deportation.

Though Heintzelman said there are more questions than answers at this point, the moral statement from the faith community remains unchanged. "You cannot say, 'Love your neighbor as yourself' and turn your back on people threatened with deportation," Heintzelman said. "God brought these people to our doorsteps, and we are determined to help them."

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The Rev. T. Michael Rock, who pastors Robbinsdale UCC in Robbinsdale, Minn., believes "what ICE is doing is criminal. These are people with lives and families, and it is our faith imperative to respond and offer hospitality," he said. "People of faith have been doing that for 2,000 years."

Rock added that his congregation is keeping immigrants at risk for deportation in its prayers, and will consider offering sanctuary if a family comes to its doorstep.

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http://www.ucc.org/news_ucc_churches_offer_sanctuary_from_january_immigration_raids_01052016
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