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So many who have commented on the video in the moat, have no idea what

was occurring once the gorilla took the child up the ladder to the land area. The moat activity was only a limited portion of the total time the child was in Harambe's control.

Those who observed tell us the boy's head was being banged on concrete as he was being dragged by Harambe. The child did suffer a concussion.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Tue May 31, 2016, 01:22 PM (0 replies)

Remember, the little boy repeatedly told his mother that he wanted

to be in the moat below.
She was forewarned, and as his mother, she must have know his temperament and predilections.

It seems she may have taken on more than she could handle by bringing four children, including an infant, to a busy venue, without sufficient adult assistance.
She may have meant well, but a lapse in judgment occurred.
I have read that the father works in Cleveland, and it would seem that he was not at the zoo.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Tue May 31, 2016, 01:05 PM (3 replies)

Yeah, I miss red grapefruit as well - for about 12 years now.

I haven't gotten any pity from anyone, though.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Mon May 30, 2016, 04:55 PM (0 replies)

Wikipedia tells me that Erdogan has four children. Slacker! nt

Posted by No Vested Interest | Mon May 30, 2016, 04:50 PM (0 replies)

The initial videos released by the media cut out the dragging part,

to protect the sensibilities of viewers.
Too bad, because by censoring part of the action, they gave out misinformation to which many are reacting.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Mon May 30, 2016, 03:08 PM (0 replies)

Though the family's identities have not been officially released,

The mother called the child "Isaiah" on video recordings, and the mother's name has been given in comments, and she mentioned the incident on a Facebook posting, apparently now taken down.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Mon May 30, 2016, 03:04 AM (0 replies)

Because of its size - 450 lbs- the gorilla could have easily harmed the child, likely ca 40 lbs,

inadvertently, breaking the child's limbs, back, or neck. A tranquilizing gun would cause the animal to be agitated initially, again with possibility of harm to the child.
The child was between the gorilla's legs when it was killed.
The zoo, with a long reputation for breeding endangered species, including gorillas, acted according to national zoological standards for such a situation.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Mon May 30, 2016, 02:44 AM (0 replies)

Video and photo of the incident available at


On the video, you can hear "Mommy's right here!" "Mommy loves you." "Be calm!"
"He's got my baby!"
Posted by No Vested Interest | Sat May 28, 2016, 10:09 PM (1 replies)

This was posted by Bipartisan REport in early April.

Any update or follow-through?
Posted by No Vested Interest | Sat May 28, 2016, 09:02 PM (1 replies)

Likely someone filmed at least some part of the ten minutes the gorilla was

holding or dragging the child.
If so, it will appear online and/or on news broadcasts.

The Cincinnati Zoo is well-known for its animal breeding programs, including many gorillas over the years.
Harambe was a silverback, perhaps rarer than other gorilla species.

Children can be very quick and clever when they have the imagination and determination to get someplace or do something.
Children can also be deluded by cartoons and movies that depict wild animals as benign or friendly, when in fact that is not the animals nature at that time.

Parents have to do whatever is necessary to protect their children.
I did use, very infrequently but when I considered it necessary to protect a very active and inquisitive toddler, a type of harness and leash. I didn't like doing that, but felt it necessary under the situation, and all grew to adulthood none the worse.
Posted by No Vested Interest | Sat May 28, 2016, 08:55 PM (1 replies)
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