I figure the mile-high boys will roll up some passing yards before the Seahookas light a fire that'll toast Deefer. The FAA has already issued an order to all aircraft entering NJ airspace to fly on radar.

According to DU mail I received today from another DU member, Skinner will allow gun incident postings involving children. Expect a spate of these, along with other gun OPs that meet GD's crumbling "exceptions."

The "defrost" setting on your car works well to quickly defrost your windshield by "reverse cycling" your A.C. compressor to provide warm dry air to clear condensation, but leaving it on (either for defrost or heat) means you are giving up 2-4 mpg because you are using the A.C.

Try using the "vent" settings, adjusting the heat as necessary, after the windshield is clear. This employs only the fan and the heater core, not the A.C. Check your owner's manual to see how your settings work. If unsure, open the hood of your running engine while the heat or defrosy is on and see if your A.C. is cycling on -- a pulley clutch will be click & start spinning, stop, then resume. This means you are using the compre$$or!

Another wasteful, polluting and unnecessary practice: Letting your car idle to warm up. God! this is awful. Start your car, put it into gear, and start driving slowly without revving. Use your A.C. defrost at this time, then go to vent. Your car will warm up faster & use less gas, & suffer less wear. And you won't pollute as much. Damned urban legend was dead by the 1950s. I've driven cars 50+ yrs old immediately after starting on cold days without problems.

A DU member has suggested that all things "guns" be returned to Forum status in hopes of enlarging discussion from the 2 present groups without visiting upon DU membership the kind of hostile dynamic when gun issues are pushed into GD.

This could reduce the possibility of people being banned if mods are "split" between Pros & Antis. Further, other gun topics could be included, including shop talk, the shooting sports, SD, and hunting. There will be the danger of the continuing mantra-chant of animosity and denigration, but a serious effort to curb that could be made.

Such a return to Forum status with a wider range of topics might educate the wider DU membership to the much-touted "Gun Culture," and help clean up GD. Personally, I have no objection to retaining the "activist" group. Whatcha think?