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At the risk of sounding a little like Glen Beck

going off on a "Hitler!!" "Nazis!!" rampage...

..It's been shown that Harper HAS been tied to neo-nazi & white supremacist groups in the past.

I would assume that he could care less if info was gained from torture or not...It's not like morality or ethics would be an issue for him.

Mr. Harrison documents in the book entitled Of Passionate Intensity, that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was a member of the ultra-right wing Northern Foundation in 1989. Mr. Harrison documents that this Foundation was comprised of Neo-Nazi social Darwinist intellectuals.

Stephen Harper was Reform Party Policy chief, at a time when it had numerous members of the white supremacist group Heritage Front as members. Trevor Harrison, further documents that Mr. Harper even had Heritage Front members doing security for Preston Manning at Reform Party events in Ontario. The Reform Party would evolve into the Alliance Party of Canada, which sought to take over the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada (PC Party) toward the formation of the “Conservative Party of Canada”.

When Stephen Harper was a member of the ultra-right-wing Northern Foundation in 1989, Mr. Harrison documents that this was a group that had numerous Neo-Nazi skinheads as organizers, as well as a leadership that included a well-known white supremacist and anti-feminist crusader as a prominent leader that sought to take over the mass-media to enable the fulfillment of a right wing agenda.

Is the behaviour of the CPC any surprise to anyone now that you know THIS little bit of info?
Posted by canuckledragger | Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:43 PM (0 replies)

to put it plainly..

He can't defend it.

He's terrified to release those returns with my suspicion being he'd spark french revolution style backlash.

He may or may not of pioneered some of the income tax evading tricks (& maybe quite a few illegal ones, plus possible partnerships with businesses & such on the 'do not deal with on penalty of treason' list)

He may not have started some of those tricks but sure as hell took them to extremes & probably taught his buddies how to do the same, with NO consideration (or care) as to what the ripple effect would be for anyone else not not born with a platinum spoon in his mouth like he was. Social contract be damned...he never signed anything for that!

I remember a few posts here & elsewhere claiming that there are 10's of trillions of dollars hiding in offshore, tax free havens for the ultra-rich that can afford the army of accountants & lawyers to hide it for them.

I want to see leeches like him & all the dirty little financial tricks that vampires like him use to get out of paying their fair share.

As Obama SHOULD have said, "you didn't build that" BY YOURSELF.

I think of all the tax breaks, subsidies, public resources, etc. & most importantly the work done by EMPLOYEES that goes into building a company, regardless of industry.

With offshore accounts not subject to U.S. law, (or any other's laws for that matter) that means that ANYONE, in any country is able to pull the same shit he does & shift the burden onto the REAL tax-paying public's of said countries, while the vampires make off with all the loot & the ones that got them those riches left to...well...die. (not so extreme a statement considering all the efforts by the ultra-rich to limit health care, worker safety, living wages, etc.)

I really hope Harry Reid has access to those tax returns & eventually finds a way to release them. It's about time for change. REAL change. change that benefits not just the U.S., but other countries as well.
Posted by canuckledragger | Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:10 PM (1 replies)

I recently posted a challenge about gay marriage/rights to an atheist discussion site

it's the reddit atheism page, taking a stab at the Chick-Fil-A controversy.

the full page is here:


it started off as comments made about this pic:

where I was arguing with someone about the 'protest' by folks that showed up were just using 'religion' & 'freedom of speech' as cover for bigotry & homophobia

After all..it DID happen after the story got national attention where the owner openly said he contributes to anti-gay hate groups, in support of 'traditional marriage' & christian values.

There's a lot of conservative/religious trolls & bigots there & they disrupt the subreddit all the time saying that anything posted with a homosexual slant has nothing to do with atheism

Considering the majority of opposition comes from from religious groups, I think it's a pretty damn good reason why someone would choose atheism.

all that aside though, the issue is this:

I wanted them to state a clear, logical argument as to why they are against gay marriage and/or gay rights, without using religion or bible passages as an excuse.

I was trying to isolate & remove the religion aspect & expose the bigotry & homophobia for what it is.

It may be a wee biased & have a preconception to it, but it was the best I came up with at the time.

A little background on myself:

I'm a 36 year old male heterosexual atheist, with gay relatives & close friends. I love 'em all equally.

My posted challenge was this:

I do want to have a serious discussion..

So I'm going to post a challenge to try to separate bigotry (or just plain distaste) from religious beliefs

I want folks that don't approve of gay marriage (or gay equality/rights) for that matter to justify in their OWN words & opinions WITHOUT using religion or bible verses as a fall back.

Calling it unnatural or whatever is not a valid reason either. that's just an opinion.

Or that it makes them feel 'icky' or uncomfortable to think about. that is not a valid logical argument.

The argument should stand on it's own merit without needing a few verses from a collection of stories written 2000 years ago in a totally different era to prop it up. (or any other 'holy' book for that matter).

I'll be waiting.


I need a sounding board or at least a few to come over there & keep things honest.

I post under the same username as I do on DU.

I also want to hear from everyone interested here, criticism & all!
Posted by canuckledragger | Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:37 PM (2 replies)
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