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Catherina

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April 4, 2012

I can't wait for an open trial

None of this grand jury behind closed doors. I want to watch them lie and trip and squirm.

Props to the media for not dropping this one.

Read this whole article, not just my excerpt


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For about 10 days, the story remained obscure. Television news from nearby Orlando aired a few segments. The Orlando Sentinel published two brief articles, and the twice-weekly Sanford Herald ran 213 words. Otherwise, there was media silence. This is an account of what happened before everyone knew Trayvon Martin's name.

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It was drizzling, and he asked Martin if they could go inside. When they were seated he pulled out a photo. It was Trayvon, dead at the scene - his eyes rolled back, a tear on his cheek, saliva coming from his mouth. "From that point, our nightmare," Martin said.

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On Wednesday, the day after receiving the news, Martin went to the Sanford Police Department looking for answers - and his son's body. Police took him to a room and played some of the 911 recordings of neighbors who called to report a disturbance followed by a gunshot.

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Sanford police have stopped talking to reporters about the case, and Serino has never spoken publicly about his role in it, but here is how Martin recalls what Serino said: "He told me Zimmerman's story was that Zimmerman was of course following him and that Trayvon approached his vehicle, walked up to the car and asked Zimmerman, ‘Why are your following me?' Zimmerman then rolls his car windows down, tells Trayvon ‘I'm not following you.' He rolls his car windows up.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403
April 4, 2012

You're much nicer about it than I am

The video doesn't seem to be up yet, at least I couldn't find it, but while I was looking for it after you said it was on hardball, I came across this.

This is terrible! I had no idea this is how they broke the news to Trayvon's father

I knew the father was the one who had to call the police and they tagged Trayvon as a "John Doe" in the morgue but this detail is upsetting

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After a flurry of phone calls back and forth, an officer told him a police unit was on the way. "So I went outside waiting for Trayvon to show up," Martin said.

Instead of one squad car with his son in the backseat, three vehicles pulled up: a police cruiser, an unmarked sedan and another official-looking car. Martin would discover the third car belonged to a chaplain.

BREAKING THE NEWS

When Tracy Martin greeted the police that morning, a plainclothes detective asked him to describe his son. "He asked me what he last had on. He asked me if I had any recent pictures," Martin said.

"I showed him a recent picture in the camera and he shook his head and said, 'OK, let me go to my car and get something.'" The detective returned with a folder.

It was drizzling, and he asked Martin if they could go inside. When they were seated he pulled out a photo. It was Trayvon, dead at the scene - his eyes rolled back, a tear on his cheek, saliva coming from his mouth. "From that point, our nightmare," Martin said.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403


WTF is wrong with these people?

Please somebody, post the link when the video's up.
April 3, 2012

First time I've seen that one. How heartbreaking

I feel so terrible for all the witnesses who are torturing themselves now that if they had gone out when Trayvon was crying out, he might not be dead. I wish they wouldn't. The pain in this kid's video and in the voices of some of the other witnesses is terrible.

I spent the entire other night listening to this video, over and over again because I was so tired and would wake up to rewind and listen again.

Have you listened to these? The video starts with Zimmerman's call and then the witnesses follow. His sister's call is on there. They're all hurtful to hear but the woman at minute 18 is the most painful for me.



Thanks for posting that video
April 3, 2012

So do I. And just when you think it can't get any more disgusting (brace yourself, this is gross)

I'm keeping an eye on what the Zimmerman camp is up to.

This is the latest and they're spreading it today. It's a Zimmerman's family member letter to the NAACP.


The relative reports having sent the letter and the flyer's text to the Baltimore and Washington, DC offices of the NAACP, black churches that have been calling for George Zimmerman’s head, Sherman Ware’s sister, Tonetta Foster, who has been denouncing Zimmerman from megaphones at the hate rallies targeting him, and many media organizations and journalists. The package went out to Pastor Holmes at the Bethel Missionary Baptist Church in Tallahassee, the Allen Chapel AME Church, Eric Degganf, of CNN’s Reliable Sources and the Tampa Bay News, media critic Howard Kurtz at both the Washington Post and the Daily Beast, Megan Kelly at Fox News, The Smoking Gun, Rachel Delinsky of the Sanford Herald, columnist Michelle Malkin, and many other people and organizations. (The family member was away from a computer, and the mailing list.)

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The relative reports having sent the letter and the flyer's text to the Baltimore and Washington, DC offices of the NAACP, black churches that have been calling for George Zimmerman’s head, Sherman Ware’s sister, Tonetta Foster, who has been denouncing Zimmerman from megaphones at the hate rallies targeting him, and many media organizations and journalists. The package went out to Pastor Holmes at the Bethel Missionary Baptist Church in Tallahassee, the Allen Chapel AME Church, Eric Degganf, of CNN’s Reliable Sources and the Tampa Bay News, media critic Howard Kurtz at both the Washington Post and the Daily Beast, Megan Kelly at Fox News, The Smoking Gun, Rachel Delinsky of the Sanford Herald, columnist Michelle Malkin, and many other people and organizations. (The family member was away from a computer, and the mailing list.)

(I'm removing the link for DU's sake, you can find it on google)


here is the letter. There's more about it on the site. I have a very difficult time believing that Mr "F*cking C**ns" and his fixation with Black kids as thugs did any such thing. In my mind, the family's creativity defies belief.

That site is also a hate site. Little graphics like this one gave them away



In fact, google only returned the full letter on Scribds and two hate sites.

I expect the Orlando Sentinel to cover this latest glowingly later today.

How is it that these non-racist angels of humanitarianism are going to known racists like Michelle Malkin? I find it kind of odd.


March 26, 2012

Turner Clayton
NAACP
4805 Mount Hope Drive
Baltimore, MD 21215

Mr. Clayton,

Subject: George Zimmerman

Dear Mr Clayton

The events of February 26, 2012 are tragic and the details of which will not be disclosed until the police
report is made public. Regardless of this fact, George Zimmerman has been hiding for his life because of
the death threats made against him by the black community. He has been found guilty (in the public
eye) until proven innocent. He has been called a racist and a bigot and there have been very few that
have stood up for him. There has been an unprecedented rush to judge George regardless of the facts.
The black community as a whole has turned their backs and blindly followed the furor stirred up by selfproclaimed
leaders of your community. These leaders have rallies and chant horrible things of a person
they know nothing about. If justice is what the community wants don’t you think you should wait for the
investigators to do their jobs first? Isn’t that justice?

The purpose of this letter of the remind you that things are not always what they seem. Sometimes
tragic things happen and there are ALWAYS two sides to every story. As African‐Americans you can
surely identify with that. While I am not prepared to get into the details of the investigation because I do
not want to make a rush to judgment like the rest of society, I would like to point out some things that
many of your followers already know. These people that I refer to have, to date, lacked the moral
character and principle to do the right thing even though it may be unpopular.

You will recall the incident of the beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on December 4,
2010 by the son of a Sanford police officer. The beating sparked an outrage in the community but there
were very few that stepped up to do anything about it. I would presume the inaction was because of the
fact that he was homeless not because he was black. Do you know the individual that stepped up when
no one else in the black community would? Do you know who spent tireless hours putting flyers on the
cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the
church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black
community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall
meeting on January 8th , 2011 at Sanford City Hall?? That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN. Ironic isn’t
it?

The main point for this letter is to explain to you that the black community has labeled George a racist
without any investigation at all. Regardless of the fact that George personally spoke to many of your
constituents, not one has stepped forward and said, Hey I know that face. That is the Hispanic guy that
was standing up for Sherman Ware. That was the only non‐black face in the meetings for justice in this
case. You know as well as I do that there are many NAACP followers that recognize George from the
Ware case as well as many other good things that he’s done for the black community. It’s time for you to
end the race issue in this matter and call for cooler heads to prevail. If something happens to George as
a result of the race furor stirred up by this mischaracterization of George there will be blood on your
hands as well as the rest of the racists that have rushed to judgment
. You need to call off the dogs.
Period. Publicly and swiftly.

You will not be the only recipient of this letter. I am going to scream as loud about this as the NAACP has
against “racist” George. There will be a press release with a copy of this letter mailed to the media but I
am going to give you a head‐start in doing the right thing. The actions of the NAACP on this will help the
world decide whether your organization is in fact racist or if it is for the greater good of society.

I will not be providing my name because all of our family is in hiding and frankly scared by the threats
from the black community. If you feel the need to respond I will see this in the media (if you do the right
thing) and I will be happy to provide more details showing how wrong you really are. I will not remain
anonymous after the outcome of this case is determined. There are going to be a lot of people that need
to be held accountable for their rush to judgment.

BTW, I have attached herewith a copy of the flyer that was placed on your constituents cars last year
that might jog the memory of your amnesia‐laden supporters.

A Concerned Zimmerman Family Member

April 3, 2012

He even had little cards that were handed out at the neighborhood meetings

and went door introducing himself and distributing them.

I don't have a link but I remember it from a video with a neighbor who was interviewed and said the first time they saw Zimmerman was when he came to the door to introduce himself and hand them his card.

I just found this from an NPR article about


ALLEN: In community newsletters, George Zimmerman was identified as the Neighborhood Watch captain, and residents were encouraged to contact him if they were victimized by crime. He was a volunteer, but attorney Donna DiMaggio Berger says that doesn't protect the homeowners association from liability.

She says some key issues in a lawsuit would be: Did the homeowners association help set up the neighborhood watch program, and how much diligence did it show in training and overseeing the volunteers.

DONNA DIMAGGIO BERGER: I have been told in this case is that they did reach out to the local sheriff's office to set up that neighborhood watch. And if that's the case, that's going to go a long way towards creating a safety net for that association.

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http://www.npr.org/2012/04/02/149866203/martins-parents-plan-to-sue-homeowners-association





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The homeowners association acknowledged Zimmerman and the neighborhood crime watch in a February newsletter, according to the Associated Press. The newsletter encouraged residents to contact Zimmerman in case of an incident, it said.

“If you’ve been the victim of a crime within the community, after calling the police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman … so we can be aware and help address the issue with other residents,” the newsletter said.

That relationship is likely to come into play, said Donna DiMaggio Berger, a founding partner at the law firm Katzman Garfinkel & Berger, which represents community associations in Florida.

“It’s not as if the association can say we had no idea … that Zimmerman held himself out as a neighborhood watch captain,” she said.

Efforts to reach board members for Retreat at Twin Lakes Homeowners’ Association were unsuccessful.

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http://www.klugerkaplan.com/blog/



Oh goodie, this is from the September 2012 Homeowners Association newsletter itself

Neighborhood Watch & Crime in the Community

We have recently experienced an increased incidence of crime within the community including three break-ins in the past month, which is why having residents committed to being members of the Neighborhood Watch and reporting suspicious activities is so important. We must send a message that we will not tolerate this in our community! If you have any information on these crimes or witness suspicious activity, please contact the Sanford PD at 407-688-5199. Your call can be anonymous. Having an active Neighborhood Watch can reduce crime by 80%. To receive Neighborhood Watch updates, safety tips and be notified of any suspicious activity within your community Call George Zimmerman at (I, Catherina, redacted the phone number) or email RTL [email protected] to get involved. You can also call Sanford PD to schedule free “vacation checks” when you go out of town as well as free home security inspections to help you burglar-proof your home. Go to www.crimemapping.com and click on Sanford PD for more crime reports from this community.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/69888406/RTL-Newsletter-September-2011-FINAL


The same newsletter confirms that Wendy Dorival who confirmed Zimmerman as the watch captain was the SPD Community Volunteer Coordinator. This is a little lower down under "Community News"

Neighborhood Watch —

We just held a meeting with the Sanford PD on 9.22.11 and learned many great tips for preventing crime in our community. In attendance on behalf of Sanford Police Department were: Community Volunteer Coordinator, Wendy Dorival, Sergant Herx and Ofcer Buchannon. Sergeant Herx and Officer Buchannonare both assigned to our neighborhood and announced increased patrol within our neighborhood. In addition to the extra marked patrols, Sanford PD has initiated random bike patrols of both the front and back yards of our community and random unmarked vehicle patrols with increased patrolling during peak crimehours. Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee has pledged his support to our neighborhood and asked to attend thenext Neighborhood Watch community meeting! The Neighborhood Watch is looking for additional members to participate and become a block captains. We are open to all residents. Meetings are held the third Tuesday of each month at 6:30PM in the clubhouse, 30 minutes prior to the scheduled HOA Board meetings. Please keep your eyes open. If you see something suspicious or out of place, report it! You can make an anonymous call to the Sanford PD Non-emergency # 407-688-5199 or 911 and help keep our community safe. Email us at: [email protected] for more information or call George Zimmerman at (number redacted)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/69888406/RTL-Newsletter-September-2011-FINAL


Then we have this too where the police downplayed it to *member* instead of *captain*. I don't know how intentional that was but since they're in full defensive cover-up mode, it wouldn't surprise me.



The HOA's February newsletter doesn't mention either Zimmerman or the tragedy.
April 3, 2012

He wasn't self-appointed. They voted him neighborhood watch captain

At the time the homeowners association decided to organize a neighborhood watch, Zimmerman was the only volunteer.(37) He was then chosen as the neighborhood watch coordinator by his neighbors, according to Wendy Dorival, who organizes Neighborhood Watch for the Sanford Police Department.(39) The February 2012 homeowner association newsletter requested that crime victims "call our captain, George Zimmerman" after calling the police.(9) “He (Zimmerman) once caught a thief and an arrest was made,” said Cynthia Wibker, secretary of the homeowners association.(37)



Zimmerman is licensed to carry a firearm.(37) Sanford police chief Bill Lee said that while neighborhood watch volunteers are not encouraged to carry a gun, they have a Constitutional right to do so,(37) stating, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred.&quot 46)

Sanford Police volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival, told the Miami Herald that she met Zimmerman in September, 2011 at a community neighborhood watch presentation. Dorival stated that she gave a warning with respect to vigilante behavior at that meeting: “I said, ‘If it’s someone you don’t recognize, call us. We’ll figure it out,’?” Dorival said. “‘Observe from a safe location.’ There’s even a slide about not being vigilante police. I don’t know how many more times I can repeat it.”(37)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin




The Neighborhood Watch at Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Zimmerman lived and was chosen as coordinator by his neighbors, was formed in September, Dorival said. It is not registered with the national group, but there is no registration requirement. The Sanford Police Department provides training and community signs, and informs residents about crime trends and prevention.

Zimmerman raised no red flags during an organizational meeting Sept. 22, and no one had complained about him before the shooting, Dorival said.

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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-24/news/os-trayvon-martin-neighborhood-watch-20120321_1_zimmerman-community-ties-neighborhood-watch
April 3, 2012

That's not him rapping. That video is Ricky Flow singing Dr Dre's song

just like the title of the youtube says.

I'm not so sure that's Trayvon's account. Trayvon was 17 years old. The owner of that youtube channel is 26 according to the profile page.

That Trayvon's alleged picture is up there means NOTHING. I just went to my youtube account and changed the background image and the background color.

The date of my last activity on my channel did not change. We have no idea when that picture was added as background.

If you google zxzxmi99 you'll find only 87 results and every single result is either from a hate site like this or this or this, or open racists sticking up for Zimmerman.

Google it yourself quickly before google starts picking it up on respectable sites like this DU that are going to be used to lend some propagation*credibility* to this latest smear.

The top rated comment on the youtube link is "lol incoherent nigger". If that was Trayvon's channel, his friends would be all over it leaving comments instead of just comments from racists.

Expect more of this and expect it to get nastier. The Gawker already exposed how far a certain segment is willing to go to smear Trayvon.

Trayvon Martin's Email and Twitter Reportedly Hacked By White Supremacist

By Kyle Munzenrieder Thu., Mar. 29 2012 at 5:16 PM
Categories: Crime, News

The racist smear campaign against Trayvon Martin has hit a stomach churning low. Gawker reports that a self proclaimed white supremacist using the internet handle "Klanklannon" has hacked into multiple email and social media accounts used by the deceased teen.

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Gawker did not reprint any of the alleged hacked materials, and cannot confirm that they are real, but does report that they are still being passed around the internet in an effort to smear Martin.

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The hacker also uploaded the login information for Martin's Gmail, Yahoo, [font color=red]YouTube[/font] and Twitter account, but had changed all of the password to racist slurs. Many of the accounts have since been deleted, but Trayvon's MySpace page is still up. The last login is listed as Tuesday.

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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/03/trayvon_martins_email_and_twit.php

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There are times that one wishes one was smarter than one is so that when one looks out at the world and sees the problems one wishes one knew the answers and I don\'t know the answers. I think sometimes one wishes one was dumber than one is so one doesn\'t have to look out into the world and see the pain that\'s out there and the horrible situations that are out there, and not know what to do - Bernie Sanders http://www.democraticunderground.com/128040277
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