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I have one theory, probably applies to some:

A friend from long ago (male, expat , 65) now strong suppoter of Hillary, & highly defensive of her.

Sees the criticism as all originating w Republicans, fully believes the whole strong survivor women's champion brilliant accomplished innocent victim, & so on. There seems to be nowhere in his mind or brain where he can fit a question re her not-so-great qualities.

He likes Bernie ok, but not his "bots" and sees hillary & her peeps as the only ones with "class.".

I think he may be nearly hard-wired for Hillary specifically & only because of his early life. Kid of a diplomat, grew up in that world, lived in a bunch of different lands. Hillary, and that schmoozy world of the Wealthy & Important, is what's most familiar-- ergo, safe -- to him.
It's the only way it makes any sense, that he should be so thick & deluded. But our earliest life experiences esp if safe and good affect us forever.

And the stuff we question least is our beliefs from a time when we were too young to have an independent clue about the world. Most people have not a single original thoyght or belief. Everything has been downnloaded and is rarely questiioned.
I don't know if Hillary supporters are able to digest the dissonant realities of their candidate. I too have been baffled, and am always trying to figure it out. My theory, luckily,,is based on ONLY ONE PERSON I KNOW suppirting Hillary. So there's that.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:07 PM (1 replies)

They may have lost that war when Bernie responded

With his excellent opinion of presidential quaifications. I believe that terrified them.

A lion.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:26 AM (1 replies)

A brilliant woman would not campaign as she does.

A brilliant woman would not have voted for the Iraq war. A brilliant woman would have good jusgement more often than not. A brilliant woman would be an inspration. She is not.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:51 PM (2 replies)


Simple decision. Character. #noclass
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:31 PM (0 replies)

I tried very hard to see her as you describe.

...a well-constructed & long- promoted image of her. So much has been dispelled though.

Countless accounts from people who have worked both with and for her. People fear her and she is vindictive, arrogant rude dismissive dishonest, as folks have written.
and so on

I was wanting to champion her, for all the right reasons; but she dashed my hopes as soon as she and her peeps began dishonestly representing Bernie's platform.
It was 2008 again but worse. Using dishonest underhanded tactics to smear a good decent man and manipulate you and me, try to confuse us with bullshit.

Her intelligence? I've been stunned by how stupid, in a practical sense, she seems to be. Repeating almost exactly the losing campaign of '08. The people who advise her so poorly or her own terrible judgement, cluelessness about herself and the voters.

I've learned so much about her as SOS, the clinton foundation, the arms deals, way way too much. I think supporting her requires unwillingness to look closely at many serious shortcomings & her poor electability odds.

Looking back today at an old video of Bill spesking to us from his heart that he never had a sexual relationship with that woman and it all came flooding back. Masters of deception. Never again.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:43 AM (0 replies)

Hilly So Silly: and now willynilly

Her cry to the Voters*, so chilly:

*(including that forty
percent of American
voters who've chosen
to stay independent &
do their own research &
think for themselves: ergo
free from the corporate
sheepthink of Parties
that don't represent them.....)

"That Bernie's no Democrat!
HE isn't qualified!
Don't let Republicans win!!!"

"He causes the Gangs of
New York to get
GUNS! from Vermont!
And his heart is a stone, little people!
His heart is as cold
as a cold frozen
snow covered ice laden
white colored gunloving
taxcheating cold frozen stone!

That Bernie's no Democrat!
Not a real candidate!
Artless, and old!
heartless, & cold!

Dear voters! Be Loyal!
Vote Democrat Royal!
not Bernie, whatEVER!

Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:11 AM (0 replies)

LOTS of non-affiliated folks LOVE an Independent.

Absolutely.many many many!
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:26 AM (0 replies)

Her problem is she lies, and lies,

but her supporters don't do the research.

For many this election is about Integrity, which is not negotiable.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:06 PM (0 replies)

It is cooler & wiser heads choosing to courageously reject her.

She is by some measure the "safe" candidate --although she has lower odds of winning the GE than Bernie. Time will reveal all anyway. We all hope count speculate prognosticate but despite trends facts & whatnots, none know.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:01 PM (0 replies)

She just shoots her own feet off.

Your post is overlooking the gist of this election.
Increasingly people are rejecting duplicity, and most Sanders supporters see her as significant piece of a system that will not change until enough voters say NO.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:46 PM (1 replies)
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