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June 21, 2016

If Senate Democrats had accepted due process, we would have gun control

Instead, they figured that 100% of nothing is better than 50% of something

June 21, 2016

Apparently, much of the Senate hates due process more than it likes gun control

Sadly, they are members of my party...

June 20, 2016

A Man For All Seasons- The Devil and The Law

The person who posted this on Youtube said it better than I can:

A clip from the classic movie and play, "A Man For All Seasons". Roper, More's future son-in-law, argues that we need not uphold the law when it comes to "getting the bad guy". But what happens when those in authority decide to come after you? A relevant topic, considering the broadened powers we have ceded to our government (or that we have allowed the government to take, under the pretense of security, or protection or combating terrorism).

June 20, 2016

Repost from Video & Multimedia: "Dungeons & Dragons: Lessons from a Media Panic"

Much applicability to the current moral panic re "assault weapons"

June 17, 2016

Vaccine-caused illness cured by hidden TV cameras

https://boingboing.net/2016/06/14/vaccine-caused-illness-turns-o.html

After receiving a flu shot, Desiree Jennings could only walk backwards and spoke with a funny accent. But the "rare disease" triggered by the sinister vaccine was, fortunately, transient.

Inside Edition secretly taped her for weeks and "it looks like you made a complete recovery!"

June 16, 2016

Joe Manchin: 'Due process is what's killing us right now' with getting gun control passed

June 13, 2016

Using a tragedy in order to promote a political line can be from genuine concern about...

...society as a whole prompted by unfortunate events.

Or it can be crass and cyncical opportunism for political gain.

Trouble is, both sorts will claim that they are the first sort, and it's
"*those* people" that are the second...

June 12, 2016

Repost from GD: A nearly complete list of those responsible for the Orlando massacre

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027903608

So far, from DU and other sources, the following have been held to be responsible
for the horrible mass shooting:

The FBI
Gun culture
LGBT culture
The LGBT rights movement
The NRA
Wayne LaPierre
Every gun owner in the US
Gun Nuts
Guntards
The Second Amendment
Anybody who doesn't support immediate repeal of the Second Amendment
Assault Rifles
Assault Weapons
Extended magazines
Detachable magazines
AR-15s
Abrahamic religion
Islam
Wahabi Islam
ISIS
ISIS propaganda on social media
The victims
The LGBT rights movement
The shooter's employer
Scary-looking guns
Popular culture
Social media
Violent media

I can't help but feel that this list is somehow incomplete- perhaps some kind poster
could complete it for us?

June 12, 2016

A nearly complete list of those responsible for the Orlando massacre

So far, from DU and other sources, the following have been held to be responsible
for the horrible mass shooting:

The FBI
Gun culture
LGBT culture
The LGBT rights movement
The NRA
Wayne LaPierre
Every gun owner in the US
Gun Nuts
Guntards
The Second Amendment
Anybody who doesn't support immediate repeal of the Second Amendment
Assault Rifles
Assault Weapons
Extended magazines
Detachable magazines
AR-15s
Abrahamic religion
Islam
Wahabi Islam
ISIS
ISIS propaganda on social media
The victims
The LGBT rights movement
The shooter's employer
Scary-looking guns
Popular culture
Social media
Violent media

I can't help but feel that this list is somehow incomplete- perhaps some kind poster
could complete it for us?

June 11, 2016

None dare call it faith-promoting rumor...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210844#post9

I personally have about 8 guns. All but one is a historic relic. Five designed prior to 1898, two designed in the 1920s, one designed in 1893 and one modern shotgun for bird hunting. I purchased one relic for each of my grandchildren who, when they turn 21, will inherit these pieces of military history (assuming they are willing to purchase a suitable gunsafe and bolt it to the wall). I go for two years or more without laying eyes, much less hands, on one of them. I have not made a purchase in six years.

Hmm, seems that this poster has ...'forgotten', shall we say, that bolt-action rifles and
pump-action shotguns are current US military issue- and are being used as we speak.

What bothers me is that the new buying profile is semi auto current military style weaponry capable of firing several hundred rounds a minute relatively accurately. These buyers are not just collectors or hunters...

I seem to have missed the parts in the Second Amendment where collecting and hunting are mentioned

... they believe they NEED these things to be safe. Safe from who? Safe from people with guns of course. There seems to be no thought for safety for the vast majority of these buyers as given testimony by the hundreds of toddlers shooting themselves and others with mommy and daddy's guns.

"the vast majority"? Bullshit- even this posters' fellow ~~prohibitionists~~ 'gun safety
advocates' say there was 265 accidental shootings by under-18s last year:

http://everytownresearch.org/notanaccident/

...and that from a gun owning population of ca. 80 million. That's still too high, but nowhere
near indicative of a "vast majority of these buyers"

The new buyer is preparing for urban warfare. The guns I own are 55 inches long with barrel lengths of 40 plus inches...

Nonsense, unless the guns they own look like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabyle_musket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jezail

...(add another 22 inches if the antique bayonet if fixed--makes a good tent pole in a pinch). A wheelchair friendly hallway is less than 40 inches wide. I literally cannot make a 180 degree turn in a wheelchair friendly hall way without bringing these things to a vertical position. An AR-15 with a 20 inch barrel can be carried at the ready in firing position and make that 180 degree maneuver in a non wheelchair friendly hallway. At best my relics can fire 5-6 rounds a minute and can be reloaded in 2 minutes if you aren't under stress.

More nonsense:

https://www.google.com/search?q=reload+bolt+action&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=tactical+reload+bolt+action+

https://www.google.com/search?q=reload+bolt+action&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=tactical+reload+lever+action

https://www.google.com/search?q=reload+bolt+action&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=tactical+reload+pump+action+shotgun

An AR is capable for 700/minute and being reloaded in less than a second.

Like BillH I support strong gun control and want to decrease the number and availability of modern military style weaponry. This shit has just gotten nuts.

Apparently, actual military weaponry is acceptable, as long as it was designed
originally a long time ago.

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