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GaYellowDawg

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I'm turning this shit off and watching DiY or NatGeo or something

I don't want to hear that orange fucker gloating.

So that's it. Time to move on.

Mueller cleared Trump of collusion. And punted any conclusions on obstruction to the AG. The AG and assistant AG decided there was nothing to prosecute. The AG is going to have control over how much, if any, of the report gets released to the public.

So here's what we're not going to get:

We're not going to get anything on collusion/conspiracy. That's dead. Doesn't matter whether it's true.

We're not going to get anything on obstruction. That's dead. The AG has decided that. It doesn't matter what Mueller has to say about it, or what Congress has to say about it. The AG will simply refuse to release what Trump doesn't want him to release. Doesn't matter that it's plain as day.

We will never see the full report. That's going to be buried for good. I doubt the public ever even gets to see a highly redacted version. I doubt Congress will ever see anything but a highly redacted version.

We're not going to get an impeachment. There is no possibility of impeachment or indictment now. Deserved or not.

It sucks. It's not what we had hoped for. I think it's a complete miscarriage of justice. It's going to give Trump a huge political boost. So now we're going to have to change direction and focus on pointing out what a supremely bad job the Trump administration has done. How he's damaged the country domestically and internationally. There's plenty of material to deny him the Presidency in 2020.

Please, before you express an opinion on impeachment...

LEARN WHAT IT IS.

Impeachment is done by the House. A simple majority passes articles of impeachment. Those articles (charges) are then voted on by the Senate after a trial. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority. An impeachment is not a conviction, nor is it sufficient for removal from office.

Iíve seen a lot of conflation of impeachment and conviction around here. Thatís why I posted this. I am hoping that there will be a Meuller report that makes impeachment impossible to avoid, and a conviction possible. I completely disagree with the idea that impeachment is off the table without a sure conviction; I think there would be great value in exposing Trumpís crimes in a trial.

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