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Biden: "We succeeded in what we set out to do in Afghanistan over a decade ago."

nuff said:

President Biden: "That was the real choice, between leaving and escalating. I was not going to extend this forever war. And I was not going to extend a forever exit."

President Biden: "We succeeded in what we set out to do in Afghanistan over a decade ago. Then we stayed for another decade. It was time to end this war."


Constantly cleaning up Republican messes. Constantly.

We’ve now watched as a Democratic president ended a war that a Republican president started, properly addressed a pandemic that a Republican president let explode, and restored jobs that a Republican president lost.


Charles P. Pierce asks Richard Engel a couple of questions about "western values"

Were we dropping “western values” from the B52?
Did we torture people at sacred Bagram in keeping with “western values”?
Also, it is very much a “Western value” to strike alliances with local people and then abandon them when you’re done pillaging their country or when you’ve achieved a measure of vengeance. Ask the Hmong people about that.0

NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel called Biden surrender in Afghanistan "the worst capitulation of western values in our lifetimes." https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2021/08/30/engel-afghanistan-debacle-worst-capitulation-western-values

1/6 Select Committee asks 35 Comm Co's to Preserve Records for Individuals Involved in Planning

ALERT: House Select Jan 6th Committee asks 35 major communications companies (including major cell service providers, Twitter, Parler, etc) to preserve records for "individuals potentially involved with discussions" in planning Jan 6

Sweeping request


"Committee also requests that you do not disable, suspend, lock, cancel, or interrupt service to these
subscribers or accounts solely due to this request. If you are not able or willing to respond to this request
w/out alerting the subscribers... please contact .. Committee"

"You are not the advocate for the military that you think you are"


Just say 'neigh' -by Tom Tomorrow


This is what's called Reputation Laundering

Jordan and Gaetz reportedly were among the GOP House members who urged Trump during the Capitol riot to stand down, per Politico.

SCOOP: MORE THAN ONE JAN. 6 TRUMP-JORDAN CALL — We know that DONALD TRUMP and Rep. JIM JORDAN spoke once on the day of the Capitol riot, but the Ohio Republican has said he doesn’t remember when their conversation took place. We have some new details that could help clear up that timeframe — including confirmation of at least one more phone conversation between Jordan and the then-president during the siege.

After a group of lawmakers were evacuated from the House chamber to a safe room on Jan. 6, Jordan was joined by Rep. MATT GAETZ (R-Fla.) for a call during which they implored Trump to tell his supporters to stand down, per a source with knowledge of that call. The source declined to say how Trump responded to this request.

Jordan, when asked about whether Gaetz participated, said he’d “have to think about it,” citing many conversations he had during the frenetic attack. He also said phone calls to Trump happened more than once on that deadly day.

“Look, I definitely spoke to the president that day. I don't recall — I know it was more than once, I just don't recall the times,” Jordan told our Olivia Beavers. He later said that “I’m sure” one of the Trump-involved calls took place in the safe room “because we were in that room forever.” (For safety reasons, we are not disclosing the specific room where members were evacuated to, but that is the room Jordan is referencing.) Jordan would not get into the specifics of what he discussed with the president, though he said that like everyone, he wanted the National Guard to get involved.

A spokesperson for Gaetz, who has supported Trump’s decisions on Jan. 6, said: “Congressman Gaetz speaks with President Trump regularly and doesn’t disclose the substance of those discussions with the media.”

Jordan has previously disclosed that he spoke to Trump on Jan. 6, but not the existence of more than one call on the day — a rare piece of new information on the former president’s moves during the riot at a time when House Republicans are loath to discuss such specifics. Trump-Jordan discussions are likely to be of keen interest to the Democrat-led select committee on Jan. 6, which is expected to soon seek phone records of members of Congress themselves in its probe.


Stroke of genius?

Running Out Of Chalk

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