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There’s No Debate - BY BILL MOYERS

The candidates and the media have thoroughly corrupted the presidential debates. Our democracy deserves better. There's still time for a change.


Let’s call the whole thing off.

Not the election, although if we only had a magic reset button we could pretend this sorry spectacle never happened and start all over.

No, we mean the presidential debates — which, if the present format and moderators remain as they are, threaten an effect on democracy more like Leopold and Loeb than Lincoln and Douglas.


Remember that it was CBS CEO Leslie Moonves who whooped about the cash to be made from the campaign, telling an investors conference in February, “The money’s rolling in and this is fun. I’ve never seen anything like this, and this going to be a very good year for us… Bring it on, Donald. Keep going. Donald’s place in this election is a good thing.” Oh, yes, good for Moonves’ annual bonus, but good for democracy? Don’t make us laugh. Elaine Quijano of CBS News will be moderating the vice presidential candidates’ debate on Oct. 4, with Moonves looking over her shoulder.

Remember, too, that both Lauer and Trump are NBCUniversal celebrities who have earned millions from and for the networks. (Vanity Fair magazine even reported that NBCUniversal boss Steve Burke had spoken hypothetically with Trump about continuing The Apprentice from the White House.) Moderating the first presidential debate on Sept. 26 is NBC anchorman Lester Holt, a nice and competent fellow, but facing the same pressure as his fellow teammate Matt Lauer to not offend their once-and-possibly-future NBC star Donald Trump.


Which brings us to the #1 Question: How can anyone keep Trump in bounds? He makes up the rules as he goes along. He is a pathological liar and overweening narcissist who, as Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo reminds us in a chilling take on the man, has more than once hinted at the murder of Hillary Clinton. Says the astute Marshall:

“The salient fact about Trump isn’t his cruelty or penchant for aggression and violence. It’s his inability to control urges and drives most people gain control over very early in life. There are plenty of sadists and sociopaths in the world. They’re not remarkable. The scariest have a high degree of impulse control (iciness) which allows them to inflict pain on others when no one is looking or when they will pay no price for doing so. What is true with Trump is what every critic has been saying for a year: the most obvious and contrived provocation can goad this thin-skinned charlatan into a wild outburst. He’s a 70-year-old man with children and grandchildren and he has no self-control.”

Does anyone really believe a candidate so unstable can or will engage in serious debate? And if our first line of defense against his volcanic lies — journalists supposedly committed to truth — crumbles, how will we ever clean up the contamination?

Way more:

KKK 'neighborhood watch' leaflets left at homes in Pa. town


Someone tell Donald Jr. THIS:

This Is NOT A Skittle:



Each green dot represents 3 refugees admitted to the U.S. since 9/11.
None of them will kill you.
And none of them are Skittles


If you think the choice of Skittles is accidental here,
you haven't seen the George Zimmerman alt right fan mail



Robert Reich's Excellent Adventure With Trump Supporter:

I finally found a Trump supporter -- this morning when I went to buy coffee. (I noticed a Trump bumper sticker on his car.)

“Hi,” I said. “Noticed your Trump bumper sticker.”

“Yup,” he said, a bit defensively.

“I hope you don’t mind my asking, but I’m curious. Why are you supporting him?”

“I know he’s a little bit much,” said the Trump supporter. “But he’s a successful businessman. And we need a successful businessman as president.”

“How do you know he’s a successful businessman?” I asked.

“Because he’s made a fortune.”

“Has he really?” I asked.

“Of course. Forbes magazine says he’s worth four and a half billion.”

“That doesn’t mean he’s been a success,” I said.

“In my book it does,” said the Trump supporter.

“You know, in 1976, when Trump was just starting his career, he said he was worth about $200 million,” I said. “Most of that was from his father.”

“That just proves my point,” said the Trump supporter. “He turned that $200 million into four and a half billion. Brilliant man."

“But if he had just put that $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he’d be worth twelve billion today,” I said.

The Trump supporter went silent.

"And he got about $850 million in tax subsidies, just in New York alone," I said.

More silence.

"He's not a businessman," I said. "He's a con man. "Hope you enjoy your coffee."


St. Cloud, Minnesota Police Chief reminds Trump/Fox News of true American values


Der Spiegal Cover with Trump and the word WAHNSINN meaning "MADNESS"


REVEALED: Joe Scarborough recently met with Trump to ‘rekindle’ their bromance

Now CNN is reporting that Scarborough and Brzezinski met in Trump Tower in New York “to rekindle a once-rosy relationship that has turned bitter and adversarial.”

This reported meeting comes despite the fact that Trump has repeatedly attacked Brzezinski for being “neurotic,” as well as “crazy and very dumb.” Trump also threatened to spill the beans about Brzezinski’s purported relationship with Scarborough, while referring to the Morning Joe co-hosts as “two clowns.”

CNN says that the three discussed the possibility of Trump coming back on their show for an interview, although nothing was finalized by the end of the meeting.

More Scumbag:

"Conservatives will restrain Hitler's radicalism"


Mayor Of London To Deplorable Don:

“The reality is, I’m afraid, in the current climate, it’s not just a question of people outside of our countries, or outside of our cities, wishing to do harm to our way of life,” he said on CBS’ “This Morning.” “I’m afraid the bad news is people born and raised in London, people born and raised in America, people born and raised in Europe want to destroy our way of life.”


In Khan’s interview Monday, he said Islamophobic rhetoric like Trump’s does nothing to address the problem of radicalization at home.

“The best antidote to that is to show them it is possible to be somebody with Western-level values and be mainstream Muslim,” he said. “But also to teach our youngsters resilience. So if you’re a young Brit or a young American and somebody comes along to try to bully you ... or brainwash you, a charismatic preacher of hate, and he says, ‘Look, the West hates you, there’s a Jewish conspiracy,’ you can say, ‘What are you talking about? I’m a successful doctor. What are you talking about? My best friend’s a Jew, what are you talking about? I’m proud to be an American.’”

Khan also called out Trump for saying Khan would be exempted from the proposed Muslim ban, while millions of other Muslims would still be barred from entering the U.S.

“When I was elected he said he’d make an exception for me,” said Khan. “Now according to my mum, I’m exceptional. But I’m not exceptional.”

Then Khan gave another hint that he wants Democrat Hillary Clinton to win in November.

“My hope is the best candidate wins,” he said. “I’m sure she will.”

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