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He'll try but not succeed at both.

1. He cannot directly fire Mueller but will have to go through his AG who said he will not do it. Fire the AG and find someone who will, as Nixon did? Mueller probably has contingency plans for this scenario. He knows TRump's psychology well by now.
And there's always NY state AG with whom Mueller is sharing info.

2. A couple of DoD/Pentagon folks have said they will not comply with a launch order if it comes down. Whew, that was a relief to hear.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029437205

http://org2.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=JkR104fzYYw86qjVqdfVv9N2JdENqFX9



Indeed I am!!

This is DU's ATHEIST forum, btw.

According to a 2015 international survey data, reported by Keysar & Navarro-Rivera in the Oxford Handbook of Atheism, there are approximately 450-500 million non-believers in God worldwide, which amounts to about 7% of the global adult population.

According to the Pew Research Center, if that category is broadened to include all non-religious people in general — those unaffiliated adults who do not identify with any religion — we’re talking 1.1 billion people, which equals about 16.5% of the global adult population.

As such, “non-religious” is actually the 3rd largest group of thought on religion in the world, coming only behind Christianity (in first place) and Islam (in second).

Thus, there are more secular men and women on planet earth — many of whom are atheists and agnostics — than there are Hindus, Buddhists, Mormons, Sikhs, Jains, or Jews.

That said, numbers have little to do with reason and logic!



Bye now. 🐦


Anyone else dislike the use of the word "karma"?

There is no such thing as a cosmic-like karma. I differentiate between karma and experiencing the final results of one's actions. One is final consequences and the other woo-woo, imo.

Once had a so-called atheist tell me she "believes in karma."
By doing something good, even tho no one knew, she thought she'd be repaid in some way. I told her, "Yep, but only because it makes you feel good and that you, in some minute way, might reap the benefits of having the planet be a better place. It's not that there's some magically force keeping track that will enact some cosmic quid pro quo for good or bad behavior."

Thoughts?




Edited to add:

Folks, karma is when one has done good things, then suddenly wins the lottery or has some other good fortunate and then attributes that winning or good fortunate (or misfortunate) to karma.

If the word were used without any metaphysical connotation, then I could accept its use but most often that isn't the case at all. It's not a synonym for common cause and effect.

Me too.

But my son (only child) will see and experience the effects and suffering. It'll be more than just flooded coasts and $100 trillion+ of damages.
He's 30. I'm feeling bad for selfishly having him.





A group of around 400 demonstrators participate in a protest over climate change by burying their heads in the sand at Sydney's Bondi Beach November 13, 2014.


The horror elephants face in India in one heartbreaking photo **graphic warning**

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=600

A mob in India throws flaming balls of tar and firecrackers at two petrified elephants. (Biplab Hazra/Sanctuary Wildlife Photography Awards/)
The back legs of the baby elephant are consumed by fire as it chases after its startled mother, screaming.

In the chilling photo, a flaming ball of tar — the source of the fire, along with a few hurled firecrackers — is frozen in the air as a crowd sprints away from the petrified pachyderms.

... “Hell Is Here” and snapped by Biplab Hazra — has shined a light on some of the darkest moments of the conflict between humans and elephants in India, whose lives increasingly overlap in what will soon be the world’s most populous nation.

More than 60 percent of the world’s Asian elephants live in India as its human population balloons...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/08/the-horror-elephants-face-in-india-in-one-heartbreaking-photo/



Edited to add **graphic warning** in subject line per request.


My poor brother is shouldering 80%

Of my 92yo mother's care.

LuckyCharms, this may not help you since my mother's is not yet dying, but this is about an ongoing and sad family dynamic.

My brother and my sister live within 50 miles of mom and I'm almost 500 miles away. Although not dying yet but creeping farther into dementia, our mother is too demanding (always has been) and my sister is too self-absorbed. So my poor brother shoulders the burden of caring for our demanding, narcissistic mother.

My hubs and I were extremely estranged from her decades ago. We are on opposite sides of every subject you can imagine with her. I send checks to help with her financial load....and to my brother. I listen to his burdens and am sympathetic.

I would help more but my hubby forbids it. He is livid with my mother's attitude about a personal matter of ours.

It's a sad situation and is shortening my brother's life, I fear. He has had a heart attack and has gone back to smoking just to cope with his anger. Mom was in a care facility very shortly after a fall but they threw her out! Yes, she's that bad!

My brother says he'll never speak to our sister once our mother's meager estate is settled. I cannot blame him.

Sad situation.


Disagree only with the extent to which you carry this.

Very much AGREE with the cause! (See post "Hear, hear" above.)

I suppose all the naysayers on this thread would like to keep the Civil War monuments up everywhere? Using their logic...



Thanks for the thread. You've unknowingly helped end my debate with myself about putting someone on ignore.

Hear hear!

I too want the name of the holiday changed, so badly that I've been ranting about it here lately...

Native Americans first discovered these American continents 12,000 yrs ago. These people weren't just some CRITTERS living here!!
So, what's so hard and controversial about giving credit where credit is due???

HOWEVER, it is indeed over the top/ too much trouble the change names of cities, especially when people don't even associate the name of the city with the name of that person.


Wow! Important info determining their fate.

Talk about picking bones clean.
How can these poor people survive? They've been strangled by capitalistic vultures, then by Mother Nature (enhanced by GCC), and now by TRump's FEMA.


Then Orange Shitgibbon made the claim that he's going to wipe out
P.R 's debt. Suurrre he will.
Let taxpayers pay off the vulture capitalists? Let's see that getting passed in TurtleMan's budget.

On second thought, these vultures are the mainstay of the rethug party donations/donors.




When will we celebrate the first people on...


The American continents?
The Native Americans who came here 12,000 years ago?

Not to take anything away from Erik, mind you. And I agree that perpetuating the myth that Christopher Columbus was the first person to discover the American continent is ridiculous.

Oh yeah, I forgot: ONLY people of white European descent are the only people that matter when "discovering" anything?


Native Americans discovered these continents first. They weren't just some critters living here.

The whole country should abolish Columbus Day and celebrate

*** "Native Americans Day." ***


(Easier to remember than "Indigenous Peoples Day." )


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