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Can someone explain this hidden post to me?

Apparently four members of our community found it outrageous enough to be hidden and I don't get it:


For those who don't want to click the link, let me share the context, because this one is a DUzy:


That's it. A bunch of PERIODS. Apparently, similar posts weren't offensive because they were allowed to stay, but this one: HIDDEN.

Yes, a DUer just got a HIDE for what appears to be the crime of "gratuitous kicking" of a thread I wrote on June 5, 2015 that received (as of now) 355 RECS, 680 REPLIES, and nearly 20,000 VIEWS.

Apparently, the fact that at least ONE DUer did not want the discussion about NYC_SKP, Internet reputation and the value posters bring to a forum to end meant the jury system had to be abused.

Or maybe these are the community standards? After all, just because the poster who provided the catalyst for my post had been here for years, donated money to this site, and posted tens of thousands of times, is really no reason to keep POSTING about it, right? It was, like, THREE WEEKS AGO so let's all just MOVE ON and throw a jury hide on anyone who thinks the issues I raised in my post The latest "banning" (NYC_SKP) is an interesting lesson on REPUTATION. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6783883 were worthy of further discussion.


Walk me through it, please. I think I get it, but I really want to be wrong.

Racism = Mental Illness. Good to know even Faux now agrees.

And the Republicans, too.

That is what all the "the boy was mentally ill which is why he was reading and promoting white supremacist nonsense, plus insisting he wanted to kill black people, then, you know, killing black people - he was mentally ill and now we should discuss the state of mental health care available in this country" rhetoric means, right?

Proud to be an American today.

Never thought they would admit it, but now that they have jumped on the bandwagon, let us welcome them to the sanity train.

Racism is a Mental Illness.

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The latest "banning" (NYC_SKP) is an interesting lesson on REPUTATION.

ON EDIT: I accidentally copy/pasted the post in duplicate - my apologies!

NYC_SKP and I are on good terms outside of DU; we met here, extended the relationship to Facebook and have spoken on the phone several times.

He is not a misogynist, a racist or a homophobe. He is a California Democrat, currently supporting Bernie Sanders (not a Republican), and personally has a long history of political activism in favor of causes near and dear to the hearts of most people on this board. His "real life" credentials are excellent.

On DU he has continued his tradition of service by acting as a moderator in a major forum back in "the olden days", then host in half a dozen forums on DU3. His participation over tens of thousands of posts was polite, respectful and courteous enough that his hide level is nearly non-existent. He has regularly made financial donations in support of the site, and is a "recognized" name to many of us.

His banning has the site in an uproar with an all-out near flame war. There is grave dancing by those who found his passion for his preferred candidate annoying, joy from the purely anti-misogynist crowd (many of whom count their "hides" in double digits with multiple time outs due to their rude and borderline abusive posts), and frankly consternation from his friends/other long time posters because if it could happen to him over ONE POST then it could happen to us, too.

Banned. Cut from the club. Not "time out/come back and explain yourself" - BANNED. No chance to clarify what you were thinking, apologize if required, or defend the post.

What is the value of an online reputation using a pseudonym? Especially in a for-profit discussion forum? For him or against him, his reputation is in tatters; he is now an accused misogynist, a stupid over the top rude idiot - a fool who doesn't belong among the "decent folks" on this board --

What value the hundreds of hours he spent here?

I have been a member since 2004. DU has been a part of my life on a near daily basis ever since. I have shared public triumphs (recounting New Hampshire presidential election, American Red Cross during Hurricane Katrina), personal tragedy (death of my father, loss of my beloved dogs, the story of my sister with MS), and the joy of getting pregnant/giving birth/raising my now eight year old twins. In 2012 when I began figuring out the connection between micronutrient deficiency, growth retardation and cerebral palsy, my first public discussion on the topics began here, and when I worked on the dratted paper explaining it all, I talked about that, too.

This site is someplace between a habit and a home. I have a reputation here. What is that worth? In real life my family walked with our newly elected Democratic Representative in a local Memorial Day parade and I am NOT a racist, a misogynist or a homophobe. I am a rabid supporter of civil rights issues, I support legalization of marijuana, but think people who chance losing their children over it are idiots, despise illegal drug use, and am adamant about a strong social safety net.

Am I DEMOCRAT enough for this board? Is my reputation strong enough to survive a mistake or a mistyping or a misunderstanding or a temporary moment of over the top passionate typing? If or when I am banned, and the grave dancing begins (the Woo Wars alone ensure those!), how will I handle the "little death" of that moment? Will the glee of the cruel erase the good memories I have made? Will I question the number of hours I have spent here, reading and responding to "imaginary" people, and wonder why I bothered?

What will my reputation be worth? How will I be remembered? Will I be mourned?

This playpen is run by good people who deservedly receive income from their efforts. I submit that there is a value brought by long term members and that at some point an arbitrary kick to the curb is inappropriate by our hosts. At some point you stop typing or texting and pick up the blasted phone to repair a relationship before it goes off the rails.

If you value it, anyway. That is what you do when you care about people. And yes, with thousands of posters, many of us long term, the phone tree approach might be necessary - the details are not mine to work out - but (to circle back again) NYC_SKP is not the first "long timer" who has been booted; some have been welcomed back, and some have not.

This is an online discussion forum, and the long term rules are still being wrestled with. A good reputation has to have some value.

Doesn't it? Or is this place just a "what have you done for me lately/posters come and posters go" internet site instead of a community?

I post under my real name. I have received death threats (thank goodness not serious ones!) for some of my public stands. I am REAL - and so are the rest of the PEOPLE who post here. And, to be fair, at some point the board itself has a "personality" with a reputation of its own: thoughtful discussion, courteous behavior, insightful views....all provided by quality posters who bring their best to the site on a regular basis.

Long term versus short - a reputation for being a "good" poster either has value or it doesn't. The whisper I hear is "who is next?"

And that is not a good reputation for this place to have.
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