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December 1, 2013

Mort Sahl interview on MaeBrussell.com...

Originally published March 18, 1968:

ARGO: Why is the truth behind the assassination of President Kennedy the last chance of America for its survival?

SAHL: Because the evidence developed by District Attorney Garrison indicates that certain people had to take President Kennedy's life in order to control ours. In other words, as Richard Starnes of the New York World-Telegram said, the shots in Dallas were the opening shots of World War III. There's been a great change in this country since Kennedy. I'm afraid a great deal of our hope was interred with his remains.



This is a man: Mort Sahl was and is unafraid to tell the truth -- even when doing so cost him his livelihood.

Of course, the truth we've learned and the history we've lived since then only support Mort Sahl.

December 1, 2013

Absolutely, tblue37. They paid to develop the art...

...and its application to "take the risk out of democracy" as Alex Carey put it:

Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy

The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html

Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:


If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.

The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making

Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.

Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis

Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy – as in true democracy – places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society – locally and globally.

From the late 19th century on, the “threats” to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.


The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the “public” and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.

The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and “experts” armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape America’s “democratic propaganda” throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.



Unfortunately, Corporate McPravda owns and operates what goes over the airwaves. And, even in the time of the Internet, Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information.

It's important for there to be more than a handful of companies providing "news." Democracy -- and Justice and Justice for JFK, MLK and RFK -- depend on it.
December 1, 2013

Thank you, PCIntern! Outstanding allegory...

A professor from Virginia Tech wrote there are two basic ways to communicate knowledge (or "meaning&quot : "maps" and "stories."

Two Kinds of Knowledge: Maps and Stories

Chemistry & Science Studies
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Blacksburg, VA 24061 02/2

Abstract—The most reliable knowledge is map like: "If you do this, then that will always follow." But such knowledge carries little if any inherent human meaning. Most meaningful is story like knowledge, which teaches about morals and values; but about that, agreement cannot be forced by demonstration. Failure to distinguish between the meaningfulness and the re¬liability of knowledge helps to make arguments intractable. It would be very useful always to ask about a bit of claimed knowledge, "Is this more like a story or more like a map ?"

PDF to full article:


So, to make something memorable requires a good story. Think, "Hansel and Gretel." Parents can't feed kids and are forced to abandom them in the forest. Kids, being human, don't want that and leave bread crumbs to get back. Birds eat bread trail. Kids get lost and find witch's cottage...etc." The details may not be the same on each telling, but the basic elements are the same.

Complicated things require maps: Owners manual for a car, a map showing the location of towns, roads, bridges, etc. Almost no one can memorize all the details required, hence they must be written down and referenced. The thing is, until the advent of smartphones, no one could carry around a reference library with them.

OTOH: Hear a good story ONCE -- as a kid or as an adult -- and we don't forget. That's why Karl Rove and his ilk were so quick to attack Joseph Wilson through Valerie Plame: No way could the truth get into the public mind before their twisted version of reality -- Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind 9-11 and planned to use WMDs.

In the case of the assassination of President Kennedy, the story that the "specialists" wanted heard first and loudest was that Oswald did it alone. Seeing what's happened to the country in the intervening 50 years, the fact the "Money trumps peace" crowd get ahead, shows the effectiveness of their story and the magic bullet theory on which it's based.

The assassinations of President Kennedy, Dr. King, and Sen. Kennedy hold so much information, they each require library shelves to hold all the information known and written about them. No mind I know can hold, let alone cross-reference, all the information known about each of them. It's why discussion and sharing of ideas is so important: The free sharing of information, ideas and perspectives why democracy works.

Putting the complex into a story form requires an artist or an expert in information science. Edward Tufte comes to mind.

Another guy who grokked it was Mark Lombardi. We talked about him on DU, way back when.

In the cases of the assassinations of America's liberal, progressive and DEMOCRATIC leadership, the story line we are told by the corporate press is "lone nut." Those who study the maps, with all their faults, soon see there is a lot more to the stories.

Thanks for sharing your charts and story with us, PCIntern. Those who care about justice and democracy will remember.
November 30, 2013

So, apart from insults for his critics, you've nothing to say about Allen Dulles?

Got it. Also noticed your revealing word selection, which isn't what most Democrats I know have said about the truthfulness, let alone accountability, of the CIA and the other parts of the secret government.

Have you noticed who has benefited most since the death of President Kennedy also happen to be the same people (and their descendants) and corporations Allen Dulles served? If you're interested in democracy and justice, you should.

November 30, 2013


The Secret Team stole the Inslaw/PROMIS software and profited handsomely, while Uncle Sam sold the stuff and the Trojan Horse backdoors it installed. Brilliant! Except the parts where they had to destroy the people and company they stole it from in court, where they appointed judge the government's own, initially, losing attorney.

The INSLAW Octopus

November 30, 2013

Dulles assassinated a political ally of President Kennedy three days before JFK's inaugural.

Patrice Lumumba, president of the Congo. David Talbot explained:

During his nearly decade long run as America's intelligence chief from January 1953 to November 1961, Allen Dulles turned the CIA into the most lethal and most secretive agency in Washington. He recruited bright, young, ambitious men from Ivy League backgrounds and he turned them loose on the world. They were "Mad Men" with a "License to Kill."

President Eisenhower gave Dulles and his killing machine a long leash, because he thought that by allowing the CIA to engage in covert proxy wars in the Third World, he was avoiding a nuclear confrontation with the Soviet Union. But, this cold war calculation inflicted severe collateral damage upon the developing world.

Leaders and political movements that could have lifted their nations out of poverty and suffering were cut down in their prime. Leaders like Patrice Lumumba, the young, charismatic nationalist in the former Belgian Congo.

Lumumba's efforts to lift his people out of the near-slavery imposed on them by their Belgian colonial masters elicited the wrath of U.S. and European mining conglomerates. And, yes, these mining giants were, indeed, represented by the Dulles law firm. Lumumba was inevitably portrayed by the CIA and the agency's assets in the media in the United States and Europe as a reckless communist and he was targeted for elimination.

By the way, i'm speaking here of media assets like the New York Times correspondent in the Congo who covered the sad end of Patrice Lumumba, a man named Paul Hoffmann, who's a familiar byline to many of us who read New York Times foreign coverage for many years. Paul Hoffman was an ex-NAZI who had served U.S. intelligence since (the end of) World War II. This is the man the New York Times sent to cover Patrice Lumumba in his final days.

The CIA also sent its Doctor of Death, Sydney Gottlieb, to the Congo with a tube of toxic toothpaste. When this poison plot didn't work, the agency brought in contract killers from Europe.

Finally, in one of the CIA's first cases of what would become known as extraordinary rendition, Lumumba was captured with the CIA's help and handed over to his mortal political enemies, a gang of killers that included CIA mercenaries.

But, the CIA continues to this day to deny any responsibility -- any direct responsibility for Patrice Lumumba's death. The agency is directly implicated in his savage torture and murder. Lumumba's assassination would lead to decades of dictatorship and social collapse and further misery in the Congo.

It's important to know the timing of Lumumba's murder: January 17, 1961 -- just three days before the inauguration of President Kennedy.


PS: Thank you, rhett o rick! Your friendship and work mean the world to me.
November 29, 2013

Warmonger George W Bush remembers JFK for ''Service.''

Here's how the pretzeldent remembers President John F. Kennedy:

"Today we remember a dark episode in our Nation's history, and we remember the leader whose life was cut short 50 years ago. John F. Kennedy dedicated himself to public service, and his example moved Americans to do more for our country. He believed in the greatness of the United States and the righteousness of liberty, and he defended them. On this solemn anniversary, Laura and I join our fellow citizens in honoring our 35th President." -- George W Bush, Nov. 22, 2013

That was pretty much the official company line in Dallas last week, too:
"Let's remember his service." How perfectly vacuous.

Anyway, the public beneficiary of the Rehnquist-Scalia 5-4 election theft also said:

"Money trumps peace." -- George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007

Some concept from the latest in the long line of treasonous warmonger is missing there.

------------- HOW THOSE AROUND JFK REMEMBER HIM --------------

On November 22nd, 1963, my uncle, president John F. Kennedy, went to Dallas intending to condemn as "nonsense" the right-wing notion that "peace is a sign of weakness." He meant to argue that the best way to demonstrate American strength was not by using destructive weapons and threats but by being a nation that "practices what it preaches about equal rights and social justice," striving toward peace instead of "aggressive ambitions." Despite the Cold War rhetoric of his campaign, JFK's greatest ambition as president was to break the militaristic ideology that has dominated our country since World War II. He told his close friend Ben Bradlee that he wanted the epitaph [font color="blue"]"He kept the peace,"[/font color] and said to another friend, William Walton, [font color="blue"]"I am almost a 'peace at any price' president."[/font color] Hugh Sidey, a journalist and friend, wrote that the governing aspect of JFK's leadership was "a total revulsion" of war. Nevertheless, as James W. Douglass argues in his book JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, JFK's presidency would be a continuous struggle with his own military and intelligence agencies, which engaged in incessant schemes to trap him into escalating the Cold War into a hot one. His first major confrontation with the Pentagon, the Bay of Pigs catastrophe, came only three months into his presidency and would set the course for the next 1,000 days. -- Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Nov. 20, 1963


November 29, 2013

''The younger Dulles saw no separation between his business and the country's business.''

Continuation of David Talbot's remarks:

...As young men, the two brothers developed a passion for the game of chess and they would play one another with a single-minded intensity that blocked out everyone and everything around them. They would apply the same fervent gamesmanship to their global law practice and then to the world itself when they took their commanding positions in Washington.

The younger Dulles saw no separation between his business and the country's business. Long before he ran the CIA and toppled governments in Iran and Guatemala, and targeted leaders for assassination in Africa, Latin America and even Europe, Allen Dulles was carrying out similar, clandestine work on behalf of his wealthy corporate clients. In 1932 as a Sullivan & Cromwell fixer, he flew to Colombia at the request of the Mellon family, whose rich oil and mineral fields were in danger of being nationalized, and he helped arrange the election of a Mellon-friendly presidential candidate.

"There's a thin line," he said, "between high finance and the shadowy underworld."

When the Dulles brothers targeted a sovereign nation, they invariably did so by couching their mayhem as part of the global crusade against the spreading evil of communism. But, the leaders they overthrew or murdered were generally reformers,
whose only sin was a devotion to improving the lives of their poverty-stricken people. When these foreign leaders moved to nationalize resources owned by U.S. and European corporate empires, they often aroused the lethal instincts of the Dulles Brothers. Because these multinational companies, whether it was United Fruit in Guatemala or the ARAMCO oil consortium in Iran, were also clients of the Dulles Brothers' law firm.

November 29, 2013

Two Warren Commissioners had extensive ties to NAZI Germany...

These are connections curiously missing from American history and any corporate media mention of the assassination of President Kennedy.

Here's history curiously missing from American textbooks and any mention of the Warren Commission on television and radio: Two of its members were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism.

Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding.

John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie and who-knows-who-else to escape justice.

Of course, both men were also barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders. We all can see what that means today.

November 28, 2013

JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination'

As a Democrat, a DUer and as a citizen of the United States, I was proud to attend "Passing the Torch: An International Symposium on the 50th Anniversary of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy" at Duquesne University.

One of the important speakers there was David Talbot, author of "Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years." As the founder of Salon.com, the man of letters also understands new media and its import for democracy and our republic.

David Talbot did not mince words in his presentation at Duquesne. He publicly named former CIA director Allen Dulles not only as participant in the cover-up of events concerning CIA in the assassination of President Kennedy, Talbot said Dulles was the chief architect of the assassination.

Mr. Talbot has worked for more than two years on a book that I believe will shake the nation's financial and political establishment to its core. Here are Mr. Talbot's words, outlining why:

...I think what we're going to show over the next few years is that Allen Welsh Dulles was much more centrally involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, and its cover-up, than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Fifty years later, it's finally time to give the man his rightful place in history. In his day, Allen Dulles was America's most legendary spymaster, the longest-serving director of the CIA. He took great pleasure in regaling the public about his espionage triumphs. But, for obvious reasons, he could never take credit for his biggest and boldest covert operation:
the killing of the President of the United States in broad daylight on the streets of an American city.

I hope that my forthcoming book, which will be titled "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, JFK and the Epic Battle for America's Soul" will at long last give Mr. Dulles his due. As I say in my title of my remarks this morning, I believe Allen Dulles truly was the "Chairman of the Board of the Kennedy Assassination."

In September 1965, nearly two years after Kennedy was violently removed from office, Allen Dulles went for a stroll near his home in Georgetown with a young magazine editor named William Morris. The old spymaster, long since retired, struck Morris as an amiable, avuncular character until the name Kennedy suddenly came up in the conversation. Suddenly a dark cloud crossed the old man's brow.

"That little Kennedy," he spat out. "He thought he was a god."

Allen Dulles knew who the true overlords of American power were. (They were) men like him and his brother, not Jack and Bobby Kennedy. The Kennedys were mere upstarts in comparison to the Dulles family. The Dulles dynasty boasted diplomats and international bankers and three secretaries of state. The Kennedy clan, by comparison, was distinguished by saloon keepers and ward healers. When paterfamilias Joseph Kennedy was amassing his fortune as a movie mogul and stock gambler, Dulles and his older brother were running Wall Street from their perch at the world's largest law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell and creating a new global financial order.

During the Cold War, President Eisenhower outsourced the country's foreign policy to the Dulles Brothers, with Secretary of State John Foster Dulles serving as the architect of Washington's global crusade against communism, and Allen Dulles carrying out the darker chores of empire.

Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev who kept looking for a way out of the Cold War noose but found himself repeatedly checkmated by the Dulleses remarked at one point, "One shuddered at what great force was in the Dulles Brothers' hands."

The Dulles Brothers stood at the very apex of American power, straddling an elite network that connected Wall Street, Washington, big oil and international finance. John Foster Dulles was the ultimate counselor for that overworld that ruled the country's government and business, and his younger brother Allen was at privileged circles master of intrigue and subversion, its enforcer...

Mr. Talbot had a lot more to say about the Dulles Brothers, especially Allen Dulles as head of CIA. One of the most important things to remember, Dulles, even after he was out of office, continued to command the respect of people like James Jesus Angleton and Richard Helms, people he had promoted to their positions of power, and people who kept their knowledge of CIA assassination programs away from President Kennedy and the various government investigators who would later ask them about them.

Something I'm personally proud to add: Dulles and his brother are two of the main founders of the BFEE, a term Bartcop coined and I borrow to denote the War Party affiliated with the right wing Wall Street crowd that infested Washington for much of the late 19th and 20th century. Allen Dulles was a good friend and business associate of Prescott Sheldon Bush, Sr.

During the Depression, they tried to overthrow FDR. Before and during World War II, they did business with Hitler. After the war, they imported NAZIs to help fight the commies and build up a case for the Military Industrial Complex. They've done a lot since, from Vietnam to Iraq.

Where does DU fit in all of this? DU serves to spread the truth about the government and how its secret services operate in service to wealth before service to the People. That's not only un-democratic, that's fascistic.

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