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"Beware those in whom the urge to excuse away murder is strong" - Hekate

We saw murder done before our very eyes. We saw the face of a cold-blooded killer staring straight at the cell-phone camera, daring anyone to stop him.

JUSTICE needs to be done, and justice needs to be SEEN to be done. We have a long, long way to go in this country, but Justice was done this day.

Just a few times. A bogus injury, a very serious injury, and a serial rapist...

Once the jury was impaneled so fast it made my head spin, & I think it was my question during the morning that caused the complainant to quit during lunch.

A young woman, a college student with no money, rolled into the rear bumper of a middle aged woman’s fancy car in a parking lot. The middle aged woman claimed pain (neck injury) and damages (to the car). I listened carefully, and as always, with a neutral face. There were big photos of the allegedly damaged car. There was something about the extent of the complaint that bothered me — it seemed disproportionate.

I asked: “Can you please hold up that picture so I can see it?” I frowned slightly, because I saw no evidence of damage. Not a smudge. So did everybody else. During the lunch break a fellow juror commented to me that he thought it was a bogus case, but I just rolled my eyes, mindful that we had been warned not to discuss anything.

Got back after lunch and boom! We were notified it was over as soon as we sat down.

Second one, years later, took us some days to hear all the evidence, and only one or two days to reach a verdict. A landlord was being sued by a tenant for severe burns she received from an improperly installed kitchen stove. It was Thanksgiving and she had a turkey in the oven and a tall pot of rapidly boiling water on the back of the stove. As she bent down over the open oven, the pot of water slid down and spilled across her back.

Fortunately the injured woman had a friend there who got her in the shower and sluiced her down with cold water before the ambulance came, but she still had significant hospital time and a couple of months of daily debridement at the Burn Unit, to which she could not drive herself.

So of course the landlord’s attorney brought in lots of technical evidence to show that it could never have happened like that. There were charts and photos. There were exacting measurements of the degree of tilt (such a teeny-tiny degree of tilt). There were testimonials about what a nice man the landlord was.

And indeed, he was not one of our notorious slumlords, of which we have a few. He was a self-made immigrant with calloused hands. At the time of this lawsuit he had purchased 3 houses on his block, some inhabited by family, some by tenants. He was accustomed to doing most if not all of the labor on his properties himself.

And therein lay the problem with the newly-installed stove. I don’t think he ever read the instructions — they were found in a package on the counter top. He figured he knew how to do this, he’d installed appliances before, and he did it.

But as I pointed out to my fellow jurors, there were at least 3 points at which he had failed to follow manufacturer’s instructions, not just the leveling issue. I said, I’m not an engineer or mechanic, but my dad worked for Lockheed Aircraft and every job he did around the home was as meticulous as I assumed his aircraft work was — electrical, plumbing, you name it. As for the leveling and the teeny-tiny degree of tilt — I turned to a man on the jury who was a home builder and again pointed out that while I didn’t have his expertise, isn’t there something important about that? And all of a sudden it was the home builder who got it, and who explained it, and by golly we all found for the injured woman.

The third one was emotionally gruesome. A young man was accused of raping a young woman at the beach. They were both students at the community college, I think. We had to sit all day listening while the attorneys tried to choose a jury, then were all told to come back in a week.

I had been among those who raised my hand yes when asked if I believed I could be impartial, but once I got home I became haunted as I tried to remember the names of all the women and girls who over time had told me about how they’d been raped. I could hardly sleep. I remembered my own childhood molestation. In my life I have been pretty good at compartmentalizing bad things so I could just get on with it, but this just broke down the defenses.

The following week we again assembled and listened to attorney-talk. Among other things, we were asked to review about 20 names on a whiteboard, a number of them from a county about 200 miles away — did we know any of them? Uh no. Because they would be coming to testify about his prior behaviors. Had we heard of a case there in which the defendant and several of his friends had been accused of assaulting a girl or girls in the restroom of the high school they attended? Because they’d been accused, not convicted. Oh shit no. He came to my town dragging this shadow. I’m sure his parents thought he’d be getting a fresh start.

At some point after that the judge asked us again if we had any doubts about our ability to go forward as impartial jurors, and if so, he would be glad to see us one by one in a separate room. It was kind of shocking how many women raised their hands, not just myself. I was dismissed out of that side-room almost before I could get the words out.

Later on I heard that the young man took a plea deal for 6 years, no trial. I’m sure he’s been out several years by now. For his own and everybody else’s sake, I hope he reformed, but I wouldn’t bet any money on it.

Asymptomatic people used to be known as "carriers," & I suggest the media bring that term back...

Let me be clear: Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic

That said, I hope your niece quarantines until she gets the all-clear and hope she is 100% all right.

I was 7, & can't tell if my memory of the sugar cube with the pink dot is mine or an overlay...

However, I vividly remember getting the shot, because a clinic was set up in a classroom at our elementary school. The organizers must have set the time for after adults got off work, because whole families came & it was dark when mine got there.

The line started at the classroom door, went down the sidewalk of the building, across the big playground, out the gates, and way down the sidewalk outside the school. My little sister was needle-phobic and pitched a fit that probably could be heard for a mile. After some soothing talk that didn’t work, Mom just held her tight until it got done. I can just hear the anti-vaxxers of this era clutching their pearls at the child-abuse and trauma. Fck that noise, you idiots. My baby sister had caught every damn thing my brother and I brought home from school before that, and it didn’t “strengthen her immune system,” it wrecked it.

The only people who didn’t bring their kids would have been considered fringe religious nuts back then. Every other adult in the country was righteously terrified of their children getting this deadly and crippling disease. Every single school had its share of children who survived but were crippled for life — and there were more that were not in school because they were not able to manage without a wheelchair or they were dead.

My grandchildren are unvaccinated. It breaks my heart. The most terrible diseases in the world were wrestled to the ground and almost vanquished in my parents’ generation and my generation — and look where we are now.

God bless Salk and Sabin. God bless the scientists.

It is very much the kind of victim-blaming rape victims experience & I have had it up to my teeth

No, really. If you are a white woman — or any woman, but I just mention the ones who live with the privilege of whiteness, AND YET hear the same garbage from the age of puberty on through old age about how THEY are responsible for being assaulted.

By the same token our culture places the majority of the blame for black men being targeted and killed by white cops squarely on the shoulders of — the victims.

If only she hadn’t been walking down the street in a cute dress. If only he hadn’t been driving a brand new car that didn’t have metal plates yet. If only she hadn’t gone to that party and unwittingly ingested Rohypnol. If only he hadn’t been jogging. If only she hadn’t let the cat out at 2 a.m. If only he’d put his hands on the steering wheel and hadn’t asked the cops why they pulled him over. If only she hadn’t been jogging.

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch. These are not merely crimes of opportunity — predators will make their own opportunities, and we seem to have a culture just full of predators.

Don't give me that line about “Not all Men.” Fix it! You fix it! It isn’t up to the victims and targets to endlessly alter their behavior until there is no possible mode of being in this world at all.

Monoclonal antibodies: I pulled together a few links from prior DU posts...

...because there have been a couple of current posts from people who may be showing symptoms of COVID, and my recollection from Rachel Maddow’s excellent segments on the topic is that monoclonal infusions will help tremendously if done in the first 10 days. So there is need to both get tested early, and to locate places to receive an infusion if you are positive for COVID.

This is a partial list, but I wanted to consolidate it and bookmark it for future reference. I would appreciate it if anyone who has a link to Rachel Maddow’s two reports would post it here as well.

Thank you.



While in the early stages (10 days) tell your doc you all want Monoclonal Antibodies ...

...especially if you have comorbidities like Diabetes, heart disease, or obesity.

From Rachel Maddow show 2-17-2021. It’s an infusion, not an injection or pill. It works. We all thought it was only for Trump and his cronies, but as it happens, 70% of the supply is going unused.

If your doc is unaware, do some research yourself.

Go to combatcovid.hhs.gov
for sites that have it — I assume they can ship to a hospital or clinic if one is not close.

Her show that evening kind of knocked my socks off, and I made sure to write this info down.

Best of luck to you all. Fingers crossed.


I searched for infusion centers covid monoclonal Florida . . .
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I know this treatment is recommended for anyone with mild covid symptoms within the first few days. You may want to ask your doctor for a referral. As you can see below, Adventhealth in FL administers this treatment and I'm sure if you did a search you would find an infusion center that does this that is in your area. I believe the treatment may be free and it is supposed to be the best thing to avoid serious illness.

Here is an HHS website showing where this treatment is offered:


re Adventhealth:


Yes it is. It's waaaaaay too easy to get Dems to play along in our own political self-destruction...

...especially with the media stirring the pot for fun and profit.

This time last year I was watching Gov Cuomo trying to inform New Yorkers about the pandemic, while incidentally engaging the whole nation with his emotional capacity, genuine ethnic folksiness, intelligence, and heart. He talked about his family in very relatable ways.

This time last year I was tuning in to my own Governor Newsom’s broadcasts as he tried to keep us abreast of California’s efforts to deal with the catastrophe. He’s really bright, and I like that, and he’s a Democrat so we know where he stands on the important issues, but he’s a technocrat, so while not cold, he lacks the folksiness of the guy from New York.

Over time, hubs and I started assessing the two men as presidential candidates, post-pandemic. I bet a lot of other people were doing the same.

What do you think their prospects are now?

One of my oldest friends & her husband ended up in Civil Service careers there, so I got to visit...

...several times by staying with them. The first time was in May and I was in my mid-30s. I used the Washington Monument as my gnomon and walked everywhere. I know schoolkids get to go — but not if you grow up in Hawai’i! It was a wonderful experience.

When my own kids were 13 and 11 there was an air-fare promotion, so I took them from SoCal to DC. Our local congressman’s office was able to help with tickets for tours of various government buildings. Unfortunately it was the end of July, beginning of August, so the heat and humidity were killer. There was a brief thunderstorm that literally made the stone buildings and asphalt streets steam. I took full advantage of air conditioned buildings, especially the various Smithsonians. I made sure the kids got to see Space & Science. My 11 yo son got so enchanted with the African art we lost him for awhile and then had to scramble to get a taxi to meet my friend on time.

On one of my trips sans kids, I met up with a cousin who was working in the city, and he took me to visit the Vietnam War Memorial. I did not expect it to have the impact on me that it did, but I cried and cried for the young men of my generation.

I went for several protest marches. One was against Dubya’s invasion of Iraq, where I looked up friends from the Vets for Peace, with whom I was working back home; and one was the March for Women’s lives, which my by-then-grown daughter insisted we go to. There were indeed a million protestors for the women’s march — the organizers were counting, not fantasizing. May I say that in both cases there was no violence and no vandalism.

And here’s the thing about protesting in Washington, D.C. — it is very much our right to do so. We have “the right to petition the government for redress of grievances,” and we were loud and noisy and in the case of the anti-war protest we were very angry. But none of us (as far as I could tell, or I would not have been there) wanted to overthrow the US government by other than votes, nor did we want to harm or destroy the jewel that is OUR city. The city that represents in its very architecture the core of our Founders’ aspirations. And as much as I despised BushCheney, they didn’t set troops on us and try to kill us, the way Trump did to “his” protestors when his turn came.

The Jan 6 insurrectionists are nothing but thugs and murderers — and how dare they.

My friend and her husband retired a number of years ago, and now divide their time between Florida and Tennessee, leaving me without a free place to sleep near DC. I doubt I shall return, as much as I would dearly love to visit all the Smithsonian museums, the old and the new.

Jennifer Rubin of the WaPo got this exactly right. It was a pleasure to listen to Biden...

...who is
* a gentleman
* patient (up to a point)
* highly intelligent
* in complete command of all the facts
* gives very substantive answers
* able to instruct at length (for which he apologizes, & he shouldn’t)

I could go on, but suffice it to say, Ms Rubin is correct.

Regarding crossing the desert, which is seasonal, he made a comparison to his great-great- ancestors deciding to take a “coffin ship” to America. They didn’t want to leave Ireland, but the situation was desperate. (For those who don’t know, they were called coffin ships because of the large numbers of passengers who died on the way to America, generally of typhus.) Improve conditions in their home countries, and migration will slow down.

Regarding his comments on foreign policy, China in particular — they were substantive. Did anyone even listen? Take notes? Care? What he said was actually quite important, and shows he has been paying attention for decades and is quite up to the minute.

As it is, I turned off the tv shortly after he left the podium, and will wait for Rachel’s take on it tonight. I hope she will talk about foreign policy, as it is right up her alley.

Amen, amen, amen. I'm in California & Gov Cuomo was a lifeline of encouragement, info, & sanity...

...while Trump & Jared were killing people by refusing to help blue states, refusing to produce PPE, telling state governors they were on their own in every respect, telling govs they had to bid against each other for scarce supplies, and literally stealing shipments of PPE from airport tarmacs.

It was chaos in the early months, and nobody knew what to do. Bodies were stacked up in trucks outside hospitals. You want nursing home scandals? In one nursing home there was no place for the sudden number of bodies and they put them in a garden shed — because what? They were supposed to put them in the front lobby? In the kitchen chill room? Nobody came to help them — and something tells me the owners/ managers are going to be in court the rest of their natural days, because of Trump’s depraved indifference.

So Cuomo is abrasive. So he can be an ass. He was there for the entire country when the goddamned US President was trying to monetize the deaths of half a million Americans and counting.

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