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Markos Moulitsas: Yeah, I changed my mind. Elizabeth Warren for VP!

.....I’ve changed my mind. I now want Clinton to pick Warren for the VP slot.

Forget geography or demographics. I’ve long argued that the VP pick should be based, in most part, on base engagement. The ideal model for a VP (during campaign season) is someone like Dick Cheney, someone who will rally the base and lob the kinds of attacks against the opposing nominee that our own nominee can’t.

Warren certainly qualifies on both counts, with unparalleled credibility among the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party. And, it’s been fun watching her get under Donald Trump’s skin on Twitter. (He called her “Pocahontas” over the weekend...) She’s certainly well-suited for the attack-dog role. Trump already reacts poorly to criticism, but criticism from women sends him into another realm of tizzy. We don’t need to guess as to whether she’ll be effective at it. She’s already proven that.

Interestingly, at least some Clinton people seem to be thinking along similar lines:

Multiple sources close to the former secretary of state say that her aides took note of the senator’s ability to rile the real estate tycoon. And they recognize the value of such dart throwing from, say, someone filling out a presidential ticket.

One close Clinton confidant said that she and her aides were “thrilled to see Warren get under his skin.” Another senior Clinton adviser, who is advocating internally for Warren as a vice presidential pick, said the senator has “very influential people in the campaign pushing for her.”

A longtime Clinton veteran said the campaign definitely noticed Warren’s attacks. “You want a running mate who can take the fight to the other side with relish,” the veteran said. “Geography does not matter, but attitude and talent and energy and bringing excitement to the campaign, Senator Warren does all that.”

Ultimately, this isn’t an easy call one way or the other. It’s perfectly reasonable to advocate for SENATOR Elizabeth Warren, rather than VICE PRESIDENT Elizabeth Warren.

For my part, I’m now on team “vice president”, but not without acknowledging the real risks.

p.s. I still think Hilda Solis would be an acceptable option.


I'm not entirely convinced, but he makes a great argument because f.u.n.

Charles Pierce: In Case You Forgot: President Obama Is Hillary Clinton's Secret Weapon

It strikes me that when Hillary Rodham Clinton becomes the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, she will go into the general election with a murderer's row of campaign surrogates–all of whom seem uniquely suited specifically to torment He, Trump. There's the president. There's Smilin' Joe Biden, who laughed Paul Ryan off the stage. There's Senator Professor Warren. There's HRC's husband, the former president. When Bill Clinton is No. 4 on the depth chart, you're doing very well.

Of course, SPW and the president already began the botheration. SPW is tweeting He, Trump into the ground. And, on Sunday, speaking at commencement at Rutgers, the president brought him down to Chinatown. CBS News reports:

"Facts. Evidence. Reason. Logic. An understanding of science. These are good things. These are qualities you want in people making policy. These are qualities you want to continue to cultivate in yourselves as citizens. We traditionally have valued those things, but if you were listening to today's political debate, you might wonder where this strain of anti-intellectualism came from," he continued. "So class of 2016, let me be as clear as I can be: In politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It's not cool to not know what you're talking about. That's not keeping it real or telling it like it is. That's not challenging political correctness. That's just not knowing what you're talking about. And yet we've become confused about this."

If the best tactic against He, Trump is a lethal concoction of equal parts savvy and ridicule, then HRC's got people with the chops to be deadly with it. At the very least, it ought to be fun.


Bad behavior has consequences

Al Giordano
11 hrs ·
Since yesterday when some white male fake "progressives" for Bernie Sanders started getting violent in Nevada, hundreds of people appeared on Twitter - knowing my organizing history in Vermont - to urge me to move back there and run for US Senate in 2018. This was not in my life plan but they've pledged hundreds of thousands of dollars so far and I actually believe them. Check my Twitter feed. It's something to behold.
My life experience would probably disqualify me from holding political office anywhere but Vermont, but I do know almost every corner of the state and have receipts there. So here's the deal: If at the 2016 Democratic National Convention the "Bernie Bros" do anything to hurt the last one standing between racist Donald Trump, his attempt to scapegoat Mexicans, and the White House, I will move to Vermont, challenge him, and become a US Senator in 2018.
How's that for a Dilemma Action? Pretty good, no?
I could do that for six years. I would win if I did. Or maybe I'll just show someone else who can win that there are millions of dollars out here to help her do it. Either way, it could be fun...

Al Giordano's photo.


It's real.

President Obama’s Message to Bernie Sanders: ‘Everybody Knows’ Delegate Math

...Asked whether he believes the Vermont senator should end his campaign given the current delegate count, he replied, “I think on the Democratic side, just let the process play itself out. You mentioned the delegate math. I think everybody knows what that math is.”

According to ABC News’ estimates, Hillary Clinton has 2,205 delegates compared to Sanders' 1,401 delegates.

Nevertheless, Obama commended Sanders for “an extraordinary job raising a whole range of issues” that are important to Democratic voters.

“I know that at some point there is going to be a conversation between Secretary Clinton and Bernie Sanders about how we move towards the convention,” Obama predicted.

Obama acknowledged that while “everybody starts getting a little chippy” in the course of primaries, “the good news is that there is a pretty strong consensus within the Democratic Party on the vast majority of issues.”

“You know, I've been through this. It's natural,” he continued. “Sometimes, even more with the staffs and supporters than with the candidates themselves.”


There's video at the link, too

The Persuasion Gauntlet


Not a good look for the opposition, that.

Hillary's women's rights speech featured in JLo's new video!

Oh, Ellen

Ellen has some choice words for Trump

Video here-

http://ellentv.com/EllenCard https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/727575170295046144

In case you missed it...
Hillary Clinton ‏@HillaryClinton 51m51 minutes ago
Hillary Clinton Retweeted Ellen DeGeneres
Love this, Ellen. Where can I get one? -H

Perspective from a Sanders supporter: Last night makes unity less painful

From ‏@AlGiordano:

Everybody, read this. A Sanders supporter just emailed it to me. Will give you perspective.

That seems genuine to me. Then there's this for fun:

‏@AlGiordano AlGiordano Retweeted Mark Herman
Here is a stat: 85 percent of Sanders voters tell pollsters they'll vote for Clinton in November.

chris amundsen
@AlGiordano the other 15% all seem to have Twitter accounts...

‏@AlGiordano AlGiordano Retweeted chris amundsen
Yup. And Daily Kos. And Reddit. And Democratic Underground. And Facebook. But they really need to get out more.

Shakesville: Sanders says he's "entitled" to superdelegates. Oh.

How many times have you read this election season that it's Hillary Clinton who feels "entitled" to the nomination?

Meanwhile: "Bernie Sanders Says Superdelegates Should Follow Voters' Will in Landslide States."

Bernie Sanders said on Sunday that he and Hillary Clinton were heading to a "contested" convention this summer because she will need superdelegates to secure the nomination, a claim that clashes with the accepted definition of a contested convention. He also said that superdelegates who have supported her should switch to him instead.

At a news conference in Washington, Mr. Sanders said that the Democratic convention in July would be contested because "it is virtually impossible for Secretary Clinton to reach the majority of convention delegates by June 14 with pledged delegates alone," and that she "will need superdelegates to take her over the top." He added: "In other words, the convention will be a contested convention."

A convention is typically understood as contested when a candidate cannot reach the necessary delegate count using both pledged delegates and superdelegates, typically party officials and state leaders who are not bound to any candidate.
"If I win a state with 70 percent of the vote, you know what? I think I am entitled to those superdelegates," Mr. Sanders said.
Emphasis mine.

So, Sanders believes he is "entitled" to superdelegates' votes, and also doesn't understand what a contested convention actually is. Also: Even if the system worked precisely the way he wants it to work, and he got all those superdelegates to which he feels entitled, guess what? He'd still be losing—because Clinton has had more decisive victories in bigger states with larger numbers of superdelegates.

So, this, too—like all of his other excuses for why he is losing—is bullshit.

Sanders' fundraising has dropped off a cliff, so it's obvious that a significant number of his supporters have resigned themselves to the fact that he's lost. The only people still in denial seem to be the diehard conspiracy spinners and the candidate himself.


Remember the WH Correspondent's Dinner in 2011?


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