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Ever gracious...

The WA state convention chose delegates today.

This Sanders delegate concludes these incoherent comments with "F--- Hillary". The rest of the Sanders people in the room hooted and cheered. Who *are* these people?


Then they went all NYC cop v De Blasio and turned their backs on Rep Rick Larson, a superdel, for supporting Hillary. A "public shunning" they call it here. So Amish sometimes! "A thing of beauty" they call it.


Here's Rep Larson being a good sport on Colbert's old 'Better know a district' bit

Hope he kept his sense of humor!

I'm just a boy...standing in front of a girl...


Bloomberg: Sanders, Defiant on the Stump, Quietly Reassures Democrats on Unity

After all the public belligerence, it's encouraging to see this, especially the call to Sen Boxer. After NV, party leaders agreed to let Reid, who is the only Senator close to Sanders (according to reports on the meeting) handle the issue with Bernie. Maybe he's ready to admit the problem?

As tensions were escalating between Bernie Sanders and Democratic Party leaders over the chaos caused by his supporters at a Nevada convention, Dick Durbin got an unexpected call from the Vermont senator.
Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, came away from the conversation on Wednesday convinced that Sanders, who has all but lost the presidential nomination battle to Hillary Clinton, understands the need for party unity and will do his part to defeat presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump.
"We talked about the demonstrations and such," Durbin said Thursday in an interview. "I am convinced, as Bernie has said repeatedly, he is going to be on the team to defeat Donald Trump. I don't have any question in my mind."
Sanders has reached out to multiple Senate colleagues in an attempt to assuage them. Among them is Senator Barbara Boxer of California, whose keynote speech at the Nevada state Democratic convention last weekend was disrupted by rowdy Sanders supporters in a situation she described as frightening and out of control.
Boxer said she conveyed her concerns to Sanders in "a really nice talk" with him Tuesday. "I told him how bad it was in Nevada. He said he was distressed about it, and he expressed chagrin about it. I told him 'Bernie, you need to get a hold of it,' and he said he would.''
"He said, 'I can't believe my people would do this,'" said Boxer, who is stepping down from the Senate in January. "He got the point."


Las Vegas police probing death threats made to NV Democrats

According to the Rolling Stone interviews, the calls did come from different states, so the FBI would have jurisdiction.

And bonus shout out on the situation from the Veep-

The Las Vegas Police Department opened an investigation into death threats directed at top officials of the Nevada State Democratic Party, a spokesman tells Newsweek.

“We are investigating that at this time,” a department spokesman, Larry Hadfield said in a brief interview. He called the probe “an open investigation into some of the death threats made to Democratic office holders that reside in our jurisdiction.”

A spokesman for the FBI, which investigates threats to federal office holders, responded with “no comment” when asked whether the bureau was involved in the Nevada investigation.

But a federal law enforcement officials tells Newsweek that “the FBI would definitely be able to find a way into that. It would depend on whether the calls were intrastate or interstate and things like that. And of course the U.S. Attorney [for Las Vegas] would have to determine whether they had a viable case to prosecute. There are a lot of factors, but a death threat is something that we could begin to look into.”
In Ohio Monday, Vice President Joe Biden chided the Vermont senator for not responding more firmly to the threats, according to news reports.

Addressing the actions against Nevada Democratic officials, Biden told reporters, “that’s not Bernie. And what Bernie’s going to have to do if that happens again—he's going to have to be more aggressive in speaking out about it.”


The Democratic Establishment just secured a raise for millions of American workers

President Obama wrote this message to petition signers to announce that the Department of Labor will be finalizing a rule that expands overtime pay to millions of American workers.

I wanted you to be the first to know about some important news on an issue I know you care deeply about: making sure you're paid fairly.

Tomorrow, we're strengthening our overtime pay rules to make sure millions of Americans' hard work is rewarded. If you work more than 40 hours a week, you should get paid for it or get extra time off to spend with your family and loved ones. It's one of most important steps we're taking to help grow middle-class wages and put $12 billion more dollars in the pockets of hardworking Americans over the next 10 years.

For generations, overtime protections have meant that an honest day's work should get a fair day's pay, and that's helped American workers climb the ladder of success. That's what middle-class economics are all about. But after years of inflation and lobbyists' efforts to weaken overtime protections, that security has eroded for too many families...........


There are links to the guidelines about who qualifies in there. (You know, guidelines. Those are like rules. Rules are those things the Democratic establishment likes to use to keep stuff organized )

Josh Marshall: Toxicity, acrimony, unrealism of Sanders' campaign comes from the top

For months I'd thought and written that Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver was the key driver of toxicity in the the Democratic primary race. Weaver has been highly visible on television, far more than campaign managers tend to be. He's also been the one constantly upping the tension, pressing the acrimony and unrealism of the campaign as Sanders actual chances of winning dwindled.
Over the last several weeks I've had a series of conversations with multiple highly knowledgable, highly placed people. Perhaps it's coming from Weaver too. The two guys have been together for decades. But the 'burn it down' attitude, the upping the ante, everything we saw in that statement released today by the campaign seems to be coming from Sanders himself. Right from the top.

This should have been obvious to me. The tone and tenor of a campaign always come from the top. It wasn't obvious to me until now.

This might be because he's temperamentally like that. There's some evidence for that. It may also be that, like many other presidential contenders, once you get close it is simply impossible to let go. I don't know which it is. That would only be my speculation. But this is coming from Bernie Sanders. It's not Weaver. It's not driven by people around him. It's right from him. And what I understand from knowledgable sources is that in the last few weeks anyone who was trying to rein it in has basically stopped trying and just decided to let Bernie be Bernie.

Sanders speech tonight was right in line with his statement out this afternoon. He identified the Democratic party as an essentially corrupt, moribund institution which is now on notice that it must let 'the people' in. What about the coalitions Barack Obama built in 2008 and 2012, the biggest and most diverse presidential coalitions ever constructed?

Sanders narrative today has essentially been that he is political legitimacy


emphasis is mine

Preliminary CA projections from Benchmark Politics

They've had a really good record this season. To see the numbers clearly, go to the link and click on the graphic.

Benchmark Politics
By popular demand, PRELIMINARY benchmark for California: Clinton 56% - Sanders 44%. #CAPrimary


I'm assuming they factored in rally attendance, "enthusiasm" and "excitement"

Someone's tired of Trump attacking Hillary's fidelity

edit: This is not from her official account.

‏@VoteHillary2016 ...
#DoubleDealingDonald loves to discuss other people's one 46-year-long marriage-- but not all 3 of his own.



Double Dealing Donald

This is not what "energized and excited" looks like

.....The backlash against Ms. Lange in Nevada echoes what happened in Colorado last month when supporters of Mr. Trump bombarded Steve House, the chairman of the State Republican Party, with complaints of disenfranchisement. He received thousands of calls after his cellphone number was disseminated online.

Supporters of Mr. Sanders used similar tactics to exert pressure on Ms. Lange, who has received more than 1,000 calls since Saturday night and as many as three text messages per minute. The threats, which came from men and women from across the country, were haunting and personal.

“Loved how you broke the system,” one person wrote in a text message that said he or she knew where Ms. Lange’s grandchildren went to school. “Prepare for hell. Calls won’t stop.”

Another person left a voice mail message saying he thought Ms. Lange should be “hung in public execution” for her actions.

“I’m scared for my family,” Ms. Lange said. “Scared for my kids.”

Michael Briggs, a spokesman for Mr. Sanders, said the Vermont senator did not condone violence of any kind. However, he said the campaign was still determining whether it would challenge the Nevada results.


I'd really like to hear something a little more definitive from Sanders and his staff. Something a little bolder, that exercises the old leadership muscles. Maybe a call for it to stop? Yeah, maybe that.

D.C. mayor, most council members endorse Hillary Clinton ahead of D.C. primary

....The announcement came as no surprise because many of the city’s top leaders had already publicly pledging their support for Clinton. Bowser has used her Twitter account to publicize local Clinton campaign events. And in September, council member Jack Evans (D-Ward 2) introduced Clinton at an event at Foundry United Methodist Church and promised that he and his three daughters would be voting for her.
“Hillary Clinton has long been a friend to the District, supporting full autonomy and voting representation in Congress,” D.C. Council Chairman Phil Mendelson said in a news release from the Clinton campaign. “She is also a proven national leader.”

The D.C. Democratic primary has 45 delegates up for grabs. Twenty delegates have already been pledged to Clinton. Early polling shows that Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont could hit the 15 percent threshold needed to win at least a few of the remaining delegates.

Last week, the Clinton campaign announced a D.C. team that includes two figures from her national campaign and a third who was heavily involved in her string of victories across the South. The campaign said it will open two offices in the city Monday in the 1200 block of Pennsylvania Avenue SE and the 1900 block of M Street NW.

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