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Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:10 PM

 

Beto O'Rourke on Synagogue Shooting and Guns at Los Angeles Rally (VIDEO)

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friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 OP
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1
dalton99a Apr 2019 #2
Hoyt Apr 2019 #3
Indygram Apr 2019 #4
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #6
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #10
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #12
Indygram Apr 2019 #13
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #14
Indygram Apr 2019 #15
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #16
Indygram Apr 2019 #19
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #20
Indygram May 2019 #22
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #5
dalton99a Apr 2019 #7
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #8
Hoyt Apr 2019 #9
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #11
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #17
Hoyt Apr 2019 #18
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #21
Hoyt May 2019 #23
friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #24

Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:10 PM

1. K&R nt

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:13 PM

2. Kick

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:15 PM

3. Gunners think O'Rourke's comments on guns are a joke. See link.

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172207897
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:18 PM

4. Nit picking

 

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Response to Indygram (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:33 PM

6. I prefer 'poorly-thought out thinking while pandering' YMMV

 

However, I'll go with 'fever dream accidentally let slip at rally', if you prefer.

Up to you...
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:48 PM

10. Of course, if Beto ...clarifies... his position later, a link to same would be most welcome

 

Until then, he's a grown-up who can stand by his words as spoken.
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:00 PM

12. And in that case, I will apolgize publicly at DU. Until then, I'll take his words as stated.

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:01 PM

13. Do you even realize that AR-15s are essentially a semi-automatic version of military M-16s?

 

Add a bump stock to an AR-15 and you essentially have a military M-16.

Perhaps Beto isn't the one that's uninformed.
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Response to Indygram (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:05 PM

14. They're also considered to 'be in common use" so until you get 5 Supremes willing to ban them...

 

..you're SOL. And of course, that would no doubt work as well as the Federal ban on cannabis...
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:07 PM

15. He wants to ban future sales

 

But not take away the ones people currently own.
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Response to Indygram (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:11 PM

16. Then he needs to clarify exactly what he wants to ban and why, no glittering generalities

 

and sloppy thinking
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 08:13 PM

19. He has addressed it multiple times at town halls

 

I hear him do it all the time. The people who accuse him of only having generalities are not watching his livestreams and are just repeating what cable news pundits are saying. They have been dogging him unfairly because he wanted to spend some time getting out and meeting voters, listening and allowing those conversations to help him form policy plans that address as many peoples' concerns as possible.

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Response to Indygram (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

20. I do thank you for engaging on this, and any links to a definite position would be most appreciated.

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #20)

Wed May 1, 2019, 03:48 AM

22. Here is a video of him answering a question during his last visit to Iowa

 

I have the video starting at the point someone asks a question about gun violence.

https://www.facebook.com/betoorourke/videos/376152189900559/?t=1164
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:30 PM

5. I believe the words out of Beto's mouth are entirely serious

 

What he proposes:

“We will also insist and ensure that weapons that were designed and sold to the United States military, with the express purpose of killing people as efficiently as effectively and in as great a number as possible, are kept on the battlefields and are no longer sold in our communities, because they will end up in our synagogues, in our churches, in our mosques and public places.”


Of course, his words taken at plain value would mean that the following 1717 design
would be banned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleville_musket

Charleville muskets were not used in battle like a modern rifle. Instead, Charleville muskets were fired in mass formations [en masse].


Again, Beto's own words, as recorded on video:

"... designed and sold to the United States military, with the express purpose of killing people as efficiently as effectively and in as great a number as possible..."

As well as pretty much *everything* found on the following pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_infantry_weapons_in_the_American_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifles_in_the_American_Civil_War

Now, are we to believe you or our lying ears?



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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:37 PM

7. Why are you still living in the 18th century?

 

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:39 PM

8. Why does Beto express (even if inadvertently) a desire to ban anything more advanced than firelocks?

 



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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:47 PM

9. The OP and comments in the gun sub-group, sound like gunners think this is a joke. I don't.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:58 PM

11. In your own words, why don't you think it's a joke? It's either sloppy thinking, or it isn't

 

If it isn't, Beto's a control freak.

If not, he needs to work on his stump speeches, as idiocy like this reinforces the meme

"Democrats and guns = 'crusade' no different than Republicans and abortion"

Sure hallmark of a controller: Too mealymouthed in political discourse to let what they really want slip...
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:22 PM

17. Ah, I see where you're coming from-but you just won't quite admit it, will you?

 

https://www.democraticunderground.org/100210629460

Gun OWNERS - all of them - are the problem.

In my view, and to my basic point here, there is no difference between gun owners. If someone owns one gun or an arsenal, you are contributing to the problem.

Were there no gun owners, today's shooter would have had to resort to other methods. Which he apparently tried, with IEDs, but failed.

Yeah, I know all the bullshit that will follow this post . . . . mental health, responsible gun owners, and a thousand other deflections when the issue is REAL SIMPLE: GUN OWNERS.


https://www.democraticunderground.org/?com=thread&address=100210629460&info=1#recs

Hoyt

https://www.democraticunderground.org/100210629460#post42

Star Member Blecht (2,829 posts)
42. There is no talking sense to a gun owner

They will never recognize that they are a part of the problem, no matter what the rest of their political views are, as you can tell from the other responses in this thread.

Fri May 18, 2018, 08:05 PM

Star Member Hoyt (37,321 posts)
66. Exactly, they don't care either.


https://www.democraticunderground.org/100210629460#post82

All responsible gun owners up
until they are not.

Then let’s throw in those who intimidate with guns, kill spouses, indoctrinate their kids into gun culture, 60+ million white wing racist gun owners, etc.

Why should we coddle the rest for anything more than a gun or two at home for hunting or home defense? And no high capacity semi-autos.


Once again, "Dems on Gunowners sounding like Pubbies on immigrants"

Good luck with getting gun owners to go along with criminalizing themselves. And there's little to no chance your crowd would join
confiscaction squads en masse, so there's that.

IOW, no different from the Trump Brothers or John Bolton...
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:41 PM

18. Don't much care about gun-strokers' attachment to their guns and their irrational fears.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 11:46 PM

21. More like a concern for job safety: "As a former robber, I locked the door to keep people out"

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=45338

Question: In your professional opinion, what gun laws would have stopped you?
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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #21)

Wed May 1, 2019, 09:09 AM

23. Once again Friendly, you missed the point. You guys were promoting guns and shooting people

 

because they locked the door. I pointed out that locking the door didn't mean they were going to shoot you.

As usual, you gunners -- who can't even read the 2nd Amendment -- missed the point.

In any event, good to see gunners back posting now that they have to worry about a gun-supporting Prez being replaced by a Democrat.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #23)

Wed May 1, 2019, 07:09 PM

24. You're an admitted violent felon seemingly concerned about his former 'associates' well-being...

 

Your disdain counts for little.

I must say, however, I *do* actually hope you get your voting rights restored-

as unlike you and the rest of your authoritarian claque, I believe civil rights aren't limited to those I agree with...
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