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Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:43 AM

 

Sanders, according to some, is cheap with his charitable contributions. How about others?

https://slate.com/business/2019/04/beto-orourke-democratic-candidates-tax-returns-charitable-giving.html

Warren at the top with 5.5%

Next Inslee with 4.1

Then that cheapskate Bernie with only 3.4

Klobuchar gave 1.9

Gillibrand came in at 1.7

Harris at 1.4

Beto gave a whopping 0.3

You can read it also in Washington Post but itís behind a firewall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2019/04/16/daily-202-tax-returns-show-2020-candidates-gave-to-charity-but-not-a-ton/5cb4ab60a7a0a475985bd448/?utm_term=.cf7f9b48b14c

By contrast, Biden has given very little to charity but has increased his contributions once he became VP.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5791846&page=1

Personally I donít really care about candidates charitable contributions as much as their policies to help Americans live a good life. But since some people were very focused on what Sanders didnít give, a little perspective, I thought, was worthwhile.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:49 AM

1. The hyper sensitivity to all things Sanders is pathetic. nt

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:54 AM

2. "Harris reported no charitable giving at all"

 

" . . . during her first three years as Californiaís attorney general."

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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:56 AM

3. You shouldn't get charity points for giving to those things that

 

enhance your lifestyle. One example is your local church. In general very little of the money goes to actually helping people outside of your congregation. Most of it is for entertainment, ceremony, counseling, fitness, and general social activities. Another example are foundations which ensure employment for idiot progeny for generations. If you are a politician your charitable activity can also be used as an extension of your campaigning (see Trump).
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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:17 AM

8. What church do you got to? Entertainment, fitness??

 

The bulk or money donated to our church goes to fund feeding and clothing the poor & folks displaced by things like fires. Of course the bills also have to be paid.
I've never seen a church with a gym! Maybe some of the bigger ones
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:20 AM

12. That is why the smaller churches are often better

 

My church has a massive organ, music (ie entertainment), a gym, etc. Take a look at the spending associated with many churches. Only a small portion makes it to assisting the poor. A lot of the resources are expended on college aged students of the middle class and higher as another example.

I am not saying that churches are bad, but you have to realistic about what charitable giving actually means. Paying the staff who give religious education to you and your kids, counseling to your family, and a religious ceremony that is often indistinguishable from a concert is really not feeding and caring for the poor.
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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:01 PM

13. "charity points"

 

That's a good way of describing the ridiculous tendency to give people credit for doing the most basic right thing.

Giving away a tax credit to people just because they donated extra money or items is like when people are commended for taking care of their own kids or aging family members.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:57 AM

4. Some argue that he should be giving more since his proposed policies ask other rich

 

people to generously share their wealth.

They say that he should set the example of sacrificing a significant portion of his earnings for the greater good of others.

That is the talk out there...
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:03 AM

5. How absurd. It really is a R talking point that ppl should rely on charity rather than

 

policies that benefit Americans.

If thatís what ďpeopleĒ think I would question their reasoning.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:55 AM

11. The "some say" "Thats the talk out there" crowd has arrived. nt

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:03 AM

6. What appears on tax returns is the amount of your deduction

 

If you generously give money away to friends and family in need, itís not deductible. If you choose not to deduct, it doesnít show up. I have to think there are some people who give money away and donít hit Uncle Sam for the write-off. Politicians probably have to take the deduction so we can verify that they are actually giving to charity.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:14 AM

7. It's a bit difficult to tell considering tax law. Individuals are allowed to "bundle"

 

charitable contributions and push them to future years. There is leeway in the time allowed to show charitable contributions. The one percent, like most of these people are, often shift them around from year to year dependent on how it will benefit them the most.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:18 AM

9. "Trump at -39%...."

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:35 AM

10. Interesting how quick taxes have become inaccurate for charity...

 

...when his giving is held against other candidates.

Could Sanders be doing better? I'd say he - Along with every other candidate - certainly could. But the numbers don't exactly support the talking point de jour about him being a cheapstake.


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Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:03 PM

14. Good for Warren. And I have nothing negative to say about the others n/t

 

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