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Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:14 PM

 

Bernie Sanders' Revolution...



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply Bernie Sanders' Revolution... (Original post)
Galraedia Thursday OP
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:15 PM

1. Nailed it.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:21 PM

2. So true and very amusing.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

3. Post removed !

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:26 PM

4. and he voted for the evil coporate bailout yesterday did he not? nt

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:27 PM

5. lol

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

6. Elections 101: Don't overestimate the impact of young spokes persons.

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

7. The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign

 

I never considered sanders to be a serious candidate. sanders has zero major legislative accomplishments in large part because none of his fellow Democrats in Congress support his agenda. I do not understand the concept of a voter revolution . Without such a magical voter revolution, none of sanders' agenda could be adopted and I am not comfortable in relying on a magical voter revolution

I am not only one to doubt the seriousness of sanders as a candidate https://newrepublic.com/article/156883/gauzy-myth-sanders-campaign

After Tuesday night, the undeniable truth is that the entire Sanders campaign was predicated on a gauzy myth. If there were ever hidden armies of would-be Democratic voters yearning for a visionary presidential nominee uncontaminated by the compromises of life, then these Bernie Brigades still remain well camouflaged.

Sure, as Sanders stressed in his Wednesday statement, some of his policies are popular with primary voters. In Michigan, exit polls showed that replacing private health insurance with a government program had the support of nearly 60 percent of the people who went to the polls on Tuesday. But since the February 29 South Carolina primary, most Democratic primary voters have been unwilling to buy the entire Sanders package: politically unattainable goals, such as canceling $1.6 trillion in college debt, combined with attacks on corporate interests and the “billionaire class.

After Sanders’s two presidential runs, voters possess a pretty clear-eyed sense of who he is. He is a gadfly, a goad, and a left-wing Pied Piper. These can be valuable traits in politics since the moderate, accommodationist wing of the Democratic Party sometimes needs outside pressure to force it to focus on causes larger than the next election. But Sanders was never cut out to be a traditional president forging alliances, brokering compromises, and dealing with the messiness of governing in a bitterly divided democracy. That simply isn’t Bernie’s skill set. And his lifelong rigidity would have become an even larger governing problem if he ever succeeded Trump as president.

What Democratic voters have created by rallying around Biden is the American equivalent of the Popular Front, which, in the 1930s, was a broad, multiparty alliance against fascism in France and other democratic countries. The exit polls from Michigan echo a sentiment found in almost all primaries—voters, by a 58-to-37 percent margin, want a candidate who can defeat Trump more than someone who agrees with them on all issues.....

Sanders will undoubtedly fight on in the hopes that he can shape the Democratic platform. The problem with that strategy is that, even if Biden were to commit to supporting, say, Medicare for All, as a price for party harmony in Milwaukee, it would be a meaningless pledge. Currently, fewer than one-third of the Democrats in the Senate support eliminating private insurance. And if Chuck Schumer succeeds in getting the chamber back in Democratic hands, the new additions to their ranks are likely to be moderates like John Hickenlooper of Colorado, Mark Kelly of Arizona, and Steve Bullock of Montana, none of whom support Medicare for All.

There was never going to be a magical voter revolution and there was never any substance to sanders' campaign or any chance that sanders' agenda would be adopted in the real world
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:32 PM

8. ...

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:37 PM

9. Yup.

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:38 PM

10. Sanders's secret is out: He has no movement - The Washington Post https://www.

 

I have never taken sanders seriously as a candidate due to sanders complete and utter lack of legislative accomplishments. sanders has not been able to get his fellow Democratic members of Congress to back his agenda and that is not going to change. As I understand it, sanders is now relying on a magical voter revolution to convince republicans to be reasonable. sanders has no magical voter revolution or movement backing him up. sanders has a cap of around 30% of the Democratic voters and that does not constitute a movement or revolution



For months — for years, really — the media have reported that the Democratic Party has gone far left. They have treated social media as a barometer of the party’s political attitudes and characterized center-left candidates as out of touch with their own party. They have done so despite the triumph of moderate Democratic House candidates in 2018; despite the failure of left-wing Democrats to flip a single House seat; despite the polls showing a substantial percentage of Democrats consider themselves moderate or somewhat liberal; and despite the failure of super-progressive presidential candidates to attract the most critical element in the Democratic Party (African Americans).

With this faulty premise, the media’s coverage has been at times wildly off-kilter. It was easy for anyone caring to look closely to see that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) did not “win” a single debate, because his ranting and raving merely reinforced the fervor of his own cult while turning off the rest of the party. The media have been obsessed with the “likability” of female candidates, never considering that Sanders’s angry and rude demeanor would turn off women, who make up more than half of the Democratic electorate. A simple question — “Who is he gaining by all this yelling?” — should have been front and center in the media’s coverage. His “movement” was assumed but never examined carefully.....

Sanders’s ceiling turned out to be real, because there are generally less than a third of voters in the Democratic Party willing to embrace wide-eyed socialism, venom-filled rhetoric and utter disregard for the demands of governing (e.g. compromise). Michael Moore does not speak for the Democratic Party any more than Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) speaks for House Democrats. (I have long maintained that the person who has the best read on the party as a whole is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi; get to her left, and you are in no-man’s land.)

The Democratic Party does not live on social media nor does it favor bomb-throwers. If anything, it is desperate to play it safe and find an antidote to President Trump — not an imitation. Voters want the madness, the cruelty, the dysfunction and the stupidity to stop. They have found their safe, reliable and decent candidate in Biden. En masse — in every geographic region and Democratic group — they are telling us that they want the primary to end and the effort to rout Trump to begin. The media might have taken Sanders’s “revolution” seriously, but it turns out that Democratic voters as a whole did not.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:03 AM

12. +1

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:02 AM

11. Oh, Snap!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:04 AM

13. TRUTH!!!!

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:22 AM

14. Ouch!

 

The thing is, there are so many other things that derailed it besides youth turnout. BS' behavior itself, then the lowest of the low that he hired to represent his campaign. Participating in the primaries of the party that you have identified as the enemy is just not appealing for a majority. The unwillingness to grow your base alone had to lead to a doomed campaign sooner or later.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:23 AM

15. LOL

 

Bernie or bust your ass!
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:07 PM

16. Yeah, that mean ol DNC!

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:18 PM

17. Cracking me up...

 

Thanks for the chuckle.
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