DNC should go with Cuomo for president

[killaphill]

An excerpt from Newsday:

If extraordinary times require extraordinary measures, and they do, then this is the time for the Democratic Party to nominate Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo for president. Why?

First, because he is the only elected official in the United States today who has fully demonstrated the leadership, toughness, management skill and humanity that meeting the coronavirus pandemic demands. To be crudely political — and practical — he is the only Democrat who can absolutely beat President Donald Trump in November.

Second, because the coronavirus national emergency has revealed Trump's manifest unfitness for the office he holds, and put on display his utter inability to effectively use the powers and tools of the federal government in the current crisis. The country simply cannot afford four more years of this chaotic, corrupt and cold-blooded administration.

And third, because beyond this crisis many believe that the damage this president done thus far can be reversed. But this is not true if Trump has four more years to further damage and degrade the constitution, politicize the courts, dismantle key institutions like the Environmental Protection Agency and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and make a fool of himself and our country on the world stage.

https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/coronavirus-andrew-cuomo-2020-president-1.43453549

Don't shoot the messenger, but I'm hearing more and more rumblings about Andrew Cuomo. Newsday isn't the only place. Serious? I don't know. But these are proving to be extraordinary times.

[William769]

1. Oy vey, not this again.

[Bev54]

37. I agree

Seriously people just stop!

[Hortensis]

71. 143rd post. Give him time for DU to counterbalance other influences.

Killaphill, welcome, and maybe keep an eye on the Editorials and Other Articles forum. There are some very educational postings there. Not all of course -- feel free to ask DUers for their takes if you have any doubts about the motives and commitment to truth of some offerings and how much reliance should be placed on them.

[gibraltar72]

2. He's got a job already.

[onenote]

3. Can't stand the fact that Biden crushed Bernie can you?

Cuomo will have his hands full trying to put New York back together for months and months. He's not running nor should he.

[still_one]

6. +++

[TexasTowelie]

4. No.

Cuomo didn't enter the primaries and Biden has the support of the voters. Why would the DNC do the most undemocratic response and nominate someone who doesn't have the support of the voters? The only reason Cuomo should be considered is if Biden became unable to serve.

[awesomerwb1]

5. Nice try bro.

You'll you better on Twitter with this stuff.

[William769]

9. Didn't you forget Bernie in there?

[TwilightZone]

7. There's no basis for the claims in the article.

It's all just conjecture and opinion. Biden is ahead of Trump nationally and by nearly double digits in the counties most likely to be deciders in November.

It's also irrelevant. The DNC doesn't pick the candidate.

[Demsrule86]

24. It comes from National review.

[TwilightZone]

31. Aha.

That explains a lot.

[Enter Username Here]

8. I lost track...

How many delegates does Cuomo have again?

[sfstaxprep]

10. He's Doing Fine Where He Is nt

[tirebiter]

11. The DNC doesn't have the authority

Saying that out loud would be double hurt for the Bernie fans. The game is actually not rigged.

[onenote]

12. By the way, this isn't an editorial endorsement by Newsday

It's an opinion pieces by James LaRocca, the guy who manaaged to finish dead last when he ran in the Democratic primary to be the party's nominee for governor of New York in 1998.

[centrarchus]

13. Biden can carry the SE. Cuomo not a chance in hell. Fer ged about it! NT

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

14. DNC goes with the person who wins the delegate vote. Period.

[SCantiGOP]

15. We had an election

Biden won and will be our candidate.
Posts like this are good fodder for the anti-Dem sites, but don't serve any real purpose here.

[jb5150]

33. I didn't realize we had an election

I thought we had some primaries and caucuses.

[brush]

40. Several elections. Biden won the great majority of them...easily.

[DownriverDem]

16. No!

How about Bernie bowing out so he stops helping trump?

[bubbazero]

17. Not a good idea

Mr. Larocca, if I understand correctly, is a Democrat from New York. Cuomo appears to be doing all he can, and is communicating quite well. He is also the only governor I know of who's daily briefings are being carried by national TV outlets. MSNBC, CNN as well as others. The New York positive bias from both Mr. Larocca, as well as many in political news industry, should not be taken as to extending across the country. Our governor has given a daily briefing,(not great action, but fair) not one bit of coverage nationally, as it should be. Simply put ; New York is a HOTSPOT, my state ISN'T! It's not my opinion, but I suspect the anti-New York bias would be a problem. Remember Ted Cruz and his New York City values slam at Donald Trump. Though not effective with republicans, could work against a Democrat. A full campaign such as what Hillary Clinton ran would overcome this, but not until this is over!

[ibegurpard]

18. Great idea!

Let's just invalidate all the primaries that have already occurred and cancel the rest to install a flavor of the moment...

[treestar]

41. Flavor of the moment indeed

Always amazes me. Something happens in the news and someone comes to the limelight and immediately there is talk of them becoming President. That lawyer of Stormy Daniels comes to mind as one of the most ridiculous cases of it.

[jalan48]

19. He definitely looks the most Presidential of any candidate right now.

[William769]

45. So then you concede Bernie isn't?

[Cha]

51. Snap!

[jalan48]

56. Not either or. I think Cuomo, because of the position he is in looks the most Presidential right now

[GemDigger]

58. Rudy also looked presidential on 9/11.

[jalan48]

59. Not a Rudy fan but I do like Cuomo

[GemDigger]

61. That wasn't my point.

[Cha]

50. No he doesn't.. Gov Cuomo looks like the Gov of NY

doing an excellent job.. exponentially better than Nixon would have.

[The Magistrate]

20. What Do You Think The DNC Does, Sir?

Last edited Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Are you one of those who imagines it is some sort of Politburo exercising an iron authority over subordinate Party members and the Party at large? It does not rig primaries and dictate candidates. It does the sort of office work needed to keep track of some internal functions, and puts on the convention. Its leader sometimes goes on the pundit circuit as a spokesperson. That really is about all. Even if every member of the DNC were suddenly seized of the conviction Gov. Cuomo should be our candidate, there is not one little thing they have the power to do that could make it happen.

[NCProgressive]

25. Laughable isn't it? The bros are stretching the rubber band of illusion too thin.

[The Magistrate]

29. We Might Be Better Off If We Did Have A Politburo, Sir

I suspect in most instances, back rooms full of professionals, tobacco smoke optional, would give us better results than a months long mish-mash of caucuses and primaries....

[NCProgressive]

32. Yes .. and unruly, uncooperative candidates will retire in a gulag.

[The Magistrate]

35. The Lecture Circuit Will Do, Sir

Moderation in all things. Including moderation, of course.

[Hekate]

44. I'm just about there myself. So tired....

[treestar]

43. LOL

Indeed, suddenly seized with the conviction! Well put, Sir.

[LakeArenal]

53. No they don't really care if it's Cuomo,

Just sowing the seeds of discord.

It’s amazing that they think they could make enough of an impression on DU to be taken seriously.

[Mr.Bill]

21. The second paragraph in the OP

is an insult to a number of governors who are also doing an excellent job. Gavin Newsom of California comes to mind.

[alarimer]

22. Absolutely not.

He looks good now, but dig into some of the shit he’s done.

[Pillow talk]

34. as opposed to which pol? Americans have a short and forgiving memory

[tishaLA]

54. Exactly. The Moreland Commission alone could irreparably harm him

And that doesn't even require much digging

[NCProgressive]

23. No. This trick to cause confusion will not work bro.

[SharonClark]

26. Such silliness.

This is a joke, right?

[customerserviceguy]

27. Hamlet-on-the-Hudson, Jr.

had his chance to throw his hat into the ring over a year ago, he declined to do so, just like his father.

[catsudon]

28. nah

even if cuomo is a sure thing, he did not run

[Me.]

65. Not A Sure Thing

not even in NY

[Pillow talk]

30. Its not a bad thing. is it?

[NanceGreggs]

36. The voters, NOT the DNC ...

... choose the candidate, and they have already chosen Biden.

So you're hearing more and more rumblings about Andrew Cuomo? That's right up there with "some people are sayin'" ...

[Chainfire]

38. I remember

When the Democrats wanted Walter Cronkite. That didn't work out either.

[Hav]

39. And another one of those threads

Because some people are saying...This serves no purpose. Politicians looking good during a crisis always look appealing as soon as they do a semi decent job. That doesn't mean there will be knee jerk reactions to just treat the primaries as irrelevant.
For some reason, it seems that the side that lost wants to do everything to prevent the winner from actually getting the reward. The same side whined that there will be a price to pay should the DNC act against the "will of the voters".

[NCProgressive]

46. The last one pressed to be drafted for doing a good job was ...

--- drum roll ---



Rudy Giuliani

[Hav]

47. That's exactly what this thread made me think about

but I didn't want to insult Cuomo with such a comparison.

[tishaLA]

55. To say nothing of the fact that we have several governors who

have done amazing jobs. Cuomo is getting all the coverage because he's the governor of the political media's hub, but Gavin Newsom and Jay Inslee have been *at least* as good and probably better.

[Hekate]

42. Oh I see you're a Bernie supporter., & new to DU. Thank you very much for your concern...

But Cuomo has a full time job, in case it escaped your notice, and is not running for POTUS this year. And Joe Biden really has won the nomination after campaigning hard and more effectively than your preferred candidate.

So, thanks for your deep and heartfelt concern -- but no thanks.

[emmaverybo]

48. I can't say it better. Yeah, to sum up: "Thanks...but no thanks."

[Indykatie]

49. Give it a Rest - There's A Reason Cuomo Never Mounted Any Serious Campaign for POTUS

He could NEVAH win a Dem primary. In that regard he's just like Bernie. His bombastic personality would wear thin very quickly. It serves him well as he tries to manage the CV-19 crisis but that's about it. He's not that popular in his own state though he's been in office for many years. Folks need to check out his history before proclaiming him as the Dems' best option to run against Trump Many of those folks probably have an ulterior motive and want to use it as a Biden attack. Not saying that's the OP's motive here.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

52. No, that's just dumb.

Why would they do that? Democrats have overwhelmingly voted for Biden, and all hell would break loose if the DNC rejected those votes and nominated someone else. Cuomo is doing an excellent job managing the crisis in New York, and that's where he's needed most.

[Sunsky]

57. Anybody but the people's choice

The people have spoken. Also, Cuomo has a lot on his plate right now. NY needs him.

[zackymilly]

60. But what about your man Bernie? n/t

[Dem4Life1102]

62. Cuomo was NYS Attorney General during the Financial Crisis

He didn’t launch a single investigation of any Wall Street firm.

His first year as NY Governor he tried to push through a tax cut for millionaires that even the republicans in the state legislature refused to vote for.

[LakeArenal]

63. Take your rumblings elsewhere.

Many people say That you are full of shit.

[Me.]

64. So President By Acclamation?

Did the virus kill decomcracy?

[IluvPitties]

66. President Biden.

Get used to it.

[BidenBacker]

67. Semonite!

Engineers to the rescue!

Army Hooah!

[karynnj]

68. The news media always focuses most on NYC ... How is Cuomo better than Inslee who has

done a great job in WA. If handling this crisis is what the country is looking for, he has an advantage.

He was a candidate and did not gain traction, but he is probably on all ballots. Nearly half the delegates have not been awarded. If Sanders and Biden imploded, could he reenter before April and get most of the remaining delegates?

Of course, that is not realistic. It is still nearly certain that Biden will get the majority of planned delegates and he will be the nominee. It would not be seen as legitimate to just draft someone.

[radius777]

69. I much prefer Cuomo to Biden but

Cuomo didn't run or get the votes of the voters, Biden did.

I like Cuomo despite his flaws. He's tough, smart and confident - a good executive.

He easily beat back a challenge from the far left (Cynthia Nixon and Zephyr Teachout) in a blue state. He does well with urban PoC as well as rural whites, and his path to the presidency (should he ever choose to run) would thus likely resemble Biden's.

[kcr]

70. Ridiculous n/t

[spudspud]

72. Utter nonsense, and completely insincere.

[PurpleThinker]

73. I think you were curious... but it couldn't happen

I'm not going to "kill the messenger." lol You have a right to your opinion, and you may just have been curious what people's reaction to the article would be. I think you've got enough responses to see that they don't agree.

In any case, no matter how good ANYONE ELSE is right now, the process is way past the possibility of someone new not only getting on the ballot, but getting enough delegates to win the nomination. Biden is very close to the number needed. He has 1,174 out of the 1,991 delegates needed (Sanders has 862).

[SKKY]

74. Jesus. Here we go again with this nonsense...

...I bet these are the same people who said Oprah should run based on one half-way decent speech she gave.

[Tarc]

75. This falls under "divisive, right-wing talking points" IMO

They have a vested interest in keeping inter-party divisions alive as long as possible.

[Laelth]

76. What? Why?

We have our presumptive nominee. Perhaps, Cuomo would make a good VP.

-Laelth

[beachbumbob]

77. why would we want trump to win??

[Politicub]

78. Thank you, Bernie supporter, for your opinion.

It’s rather opportunistic to cast doubt on the nominee because Cuomo is doing a good job in his state.

Perhaps, though, you are coming to the realization that he would be better than your preferred candidate.

As a Biden supporter whose community is in Trump’s crosshairs, there is too much at stake for people like me to be so whimsical about the nominee. If you are trying to find a way to move away from Bernie, then do that.

[dalton99a]

80. +1

[The Magistrate]

82. Well Said, Sir!

Well said indeed.

[PubliusEnigma]

79. We have already chosen a Nominee. Joe kicked Bernie's ass from from Florida to Washington.

From Maine to Arizona.

Quit trying to sabotage our Presidential Candidate.

[MineralMan]

81. This Is Ridiculous.

The DNC can't do that, in the first place. In the second place, we have a presumptive nominee right now, and another candidate in distant second place waiting in the wings. Cuomo has a job, and is not seeking the presidency.

[peggysue2]

83. Neither Newsday nor James LaRocca Choose Our Democratic Nominee

Democratic voters have already done that throwing their votes and support to Joe Biden. As for Andrew Cuomo? The man has definitely stepped up to the plate providing a leadership model in a time when DC leadership is extinct. But unless you were born yesterday, Cuomo has had presidential ambitions for years and been thoroughly dismissed by progressives as a DINO, at best.

So . . . there's a certain irony, as in bitter and misleading, that a Bernie supporter would be posting an article like this. For what reason? Certainly not for the sake of unity and certainly not for the sake of the Democratic Party or the necessity to rid ourselves of Trump in November.

Whatever 'rumblings' you're hearing are from the same people spreading atrocious lies about Biden, the latest being a rape charge. And no, this is not vetting. It's called smearing, spreading disinformation and hoping against hope that chaos will reroute the Democratic primary.

Bernie Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee. He lost. Get used to it!

Yes, these are extraordinary times. But this crap? Deja vu.

[Codeine]

84. Take your shit elsewhere. nt

[mvd]

85. I don't think it would be fair to Biden (who has earned the nom as of now) or Sanders

They have both campaigned hard and racked up delegates. Cuomo is doing well in his state, but I don’t think he’d be a better candidate than Biden or Bernie. He may be more conservative than Biden. Now if something bad happens to Biden, and I certainly hope it does not, then others can be in the conversation. But in that case, I would hope it would be a Bernie.