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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:34 PM

 

Bernie is going lower than anyone ever imagined.

His campaign has all his surrogates coming out all at once and in sync to accuse Joe Biden of RAPE! Make no mistake! This is a desperate campaign trying to force Joe Biden to concede.

They are using this woman who says Putin is in love her to say that crap.

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:36 PM

1. WTF

 

Can he sue them for this? It is time for the DNC to shut him down.
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Response to Bev54 (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:39 PM

3. I hope there is an investigation and these people end up in Jail.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:41 PM

9. I agree but they never seem to get jail

 

but they should be sued into bankruptcy and lose all credibility so than can never get a job on another campaign and if they are just surrogates, they need to lose their jobs because of their immorality.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:37 PM

2. Once again

 

I wonder if Putin has something on Bernie that is causing him to be so rabid about the way he is attacking Biden. This is disgusting.
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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:40 PM

6. I've wondered that too

 

Maybe something dating back to the time he visited Soviet Moscow.
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Response to OhZone (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:49 PM

19. Or financial stuff.

 

Who knows. I hope he does drop out soon. We shall see.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:39 PM

4. Any further problems for Joe Biden and I am going to start blaming the DNC.

 

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Response to William769 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:49 PM

128. I agree W!

 

There is NO leadership in the DNC. period.

Can anyone believe that BERNIE has THREE MORE MONTHS TO SPOUT THIS NASTINESS towards Biden before the convention.

THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE SENDING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS TO BERNIE. BERNIE is doing far more damage to Biden the Democrats than Trump and his administration could ever do.....
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Response to William769 (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:42 AM

155. :) Good one!

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:39 PM

5. Do you have a link of that?

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:40 PM

7. Shaun King, Intercept and all the rest of Bernie's high profile surrogates are pushing it

 


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Response to showblue22 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:44 PM

15. Thanks. I am so finished with sanders and his cult

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:50 PM

20. Some say this is the woman.

 

Watch her tell DR Phil that Putin is in love with her.


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Response to showblue22 (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:54 PM

23. These are the same cult that refused to vote for Hillary in the 2016 general election, and are doing

 

their best to give trump another four years with lies and distortions

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:06 PM

32. Looking at the comments, it's probably not the same person.

 

Might want to wait for a little better source to confirm or deny.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #32)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:09 PM

34. If it's not her, it's her twin.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #34)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:13 PM

37. Sorry, not good enough.

 

If we're going to chastise others for making claims without confirmation, we should really hold ourselves to the same standards.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #37)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:16 PM

40. I edited

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #40)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:22 PM

43. Good idea.

 

Until we know for sure one way or another.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:46 PM

57. That's the hashtag I saw on Twitter. Last desperate Berner stand

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:43 PM

169. i won't ever vote for after this horrible horrible lie.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:40 PM

8. It's the story at the Intercept and the interview on soundcloud.

 

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Response to LaurenOlimina (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:56 PM

70. It's the story at a worthless piece of trash British tabloid.

 

There, I fixed things for correctness.
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Response to LaurenOlimina (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:44 PM

153. The Intercept hates the Democratic Party, and is not known for objective fact finding. After all

 

Last edited Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

they claimed that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 elections were false...
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:42 PM

10. CITE SOURCE & LINK PLEASE

 

Before I lose what's left of my mind in a freak-out, I want to know if this is true.
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Response to Hekate (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:44 PM

55. Of course it is not true.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #55)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:45 PM

125. Should have been more specific. Of course it is not true about Joe. Is it true that Sanders' minions

 

...have actually been spreading this slander?

I would not believe such a thing about Joe Biden for a minute.

However, by the same token I don't like to be taken in by internet stories designed to stir the pot and sow division.

Sorry to have been unclear.
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Response to Hekate (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:40 PM

174. Here

 

Here's a credible source that discusses the allegations. https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation

HuffPo has it now too.

I really, really hope it's not true.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:42 PM

11. Do you have a link to any of this

 

so we know what we are fighting against and get the word out on other platforms.
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Response to Bev54 (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:45 PM

16. Here....

 


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Response to showblue22 (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:59 PM

26. Thanks

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:06 AM

145. The Intercept.. greenwald.. he pushed that russian

 

interference was fake.

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:43 PM

12. One has to ask...

 

Joe has been rising to this office for years. He went through through vetting for VP. Is it really believable that someone held back this charge until now?
I smell a rat.
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Response to Zoonart (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:47 PM

17. His accuser recently praised Putin

 


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Response to showblue22 (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:11 PM

35. You know...I am not a cryer,

 

Even with everything going on in the world. This made me cry. I have just had it. This shit has got to stop.
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Response to Zoonart (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:28 PM

45. It's the most disgusting crap anyone can imagine.

 

This is how low they are willing to go. It's The Intercept, Shaun King, Greenwald, Justice Democrats, and others who are pushing this. We need to campaign against any and all of their candidates. I also cried over this. My nerves are shot!
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #45)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:31 PM

46. WOW... just was not prepared for this.

 

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:32 PM

48. Bernie united democrats! That's for sure!

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #45)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:52 PM

66. Apparently they don't believe in

 

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:50 PM

171. i have had it with BS. OF ALL THE UGLY HIDEOUS EVIL THINGS TO DO. bs is so desperate

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:43 PM

13. Sanders did write stuff about women's rape fantasies.

 

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:01 AM

185. Ironic, huh? n/t

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:43 PM

14. Yikes!

 

... where does he find these surrogates? Maybe, with better surrogates, he'd be ahead...

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:48 PM

18. Sounds like an orderly handoff ...

 

to the Oaf reelection team. This is sarcasm of course but sometimes I wonder where those many millions come from. They sure don't come from DU. DU Sanders donations are less that 1% of DU Biden donations per Omaha Steve's daily figures.

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:54 PM

22. This is sad

 

sanders is sinking really low with this stunt
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:55 PM

24. pathetic is a better word

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:56 PM

25. So Desperate.. they lost and they can't accpet that.

 

Well they're just going to have to.. and they spent 4x as much $$$$$$ as Joe Biden did to do it.
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Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:00 PM

27. "Reade, who first supported Sen. Elizabeth Warren and then Sen. Bernie Sanders..."

 



And what is the "Times Up" movement?

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #27)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:04 PM

28. Desperately Despicable.

 

Aloha, ucr!
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Response to Cha (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:05 PM

30. Yep.

 

I knew they were shoveling sh#t all over the internet but this is just too pathetic.



p.s. on the bright side, that's a nice picture of Joe
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Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

119. This is appalling

 

I don't believe this allegation for a moment. It demeans the the real victims of sexual violence. I would like to believe these loudmouthed cranks on social media don't represent Bernie's supporters in the real world.

Edit: I read on another thread that at least one of his advisors is apart of this. I'm so disappointed.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:05 PM

29. Sad that is ending like this.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:06 PM

31. You think this is bad ...

 

Over on twitter for most of the day. Yikes

My friend got into it with 3 Bernie Supporters who ganged up on her, and are calling her hideous names. One outright called Biden a pedophile/child rapist, and told her that she likes child rapists. Good God @ some of these Bernie folks.

I hope my friend doesn't end up in twitter jail over this. She's hot. I told her to screen shot/report but she won't
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:07 PM

33. This is Trump.

 

Hillary’s Emails redux. Think about who benefits. I’m certain that this is being feed by Trump dirty tricks. Some of these Sanders “allies” are double agents. Bernies still holds out hope against hope. He is letting this happen because this is his last chance. He is unwilling to walk away cause he’s a bit delusional.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:12 PM

36. The Bernie Bros are out of control rn.... nt

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:13 PM

38. Some "ally" huh?

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:14 PM

39. Wow, Biden did Putin's dream girl?

 

Joe's just sending Vlad a message "don't mess with the US, pal!".

Poor Putin gonna have some serious readjustment to do in about 10 months...going from an American POTUS who kisses his ass to one who kicks it.

Attaboy, Joe!
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:22 PM

41. Bernie

 

needs to repudiate this bullshit right away. Shame on anyone who’s spreading this smear.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:22 PM

42. This is absolutely disgusting! So, Sanders boasts about not "going negative", but....

 

...he leaves it up to his top staffers and surrogates.

Time to end it, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:27 PM

44. And we are supposed to be nicer to Bernie supporters.

 

What a bunch of crap.
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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #44)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:31 PM

47. We're suppose to take this nasty stuff and keep our mouth shut.

 

Joe Biden needs to try and appeal to young folks without Bernie. It's not a good idea to come together with Bernie or even accept his endorsement at this point.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:43 PM

52. Bernie needs to get the fuck out.

 

That's all that matters. He is allowing his people to come up with this nasty garbage against Biden.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:47 PM

58. Fuck them...we will have to win without them.

 

They are despicable.
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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #44)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

106. Yes, if we criticize Bernie, it's cyberbullying

 

But accusing Biden of rape is A OK.
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Response to mcar (Reply #106)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

113. Could this be Russian bots

 

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Response to Frances (Reply #113)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:04 AM

150. The "accuser" is certainly a Russian sympathizer

 

But it's well-known Bernie surrogates who are pushing the smear.
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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #44)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

124. Like not calling them BS supporters

 

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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:51 PM

172. bernie is BS. Good moniker for him after this horrible story is making the rounds.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:35 PM

49. The fish stinks from the head down.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:38 PM

50. Reade: "President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring,

 

“President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. … To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.”


https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

sounds perfectly credible to me . . .

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #50)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:45 PM

56. Pretty Light On Detail, Sir

 

The allegation seems to be 'sniffed her hair and kissed the back of her head'. The allegator describes this action as having happened to someone else, and says that is what happened to her. Not very impressive....
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:50 PM

62. Portrait of a failed shakedown.

 

Until she got to The Intercept that is. Then her luck changed.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

76. That was the original allegation.

 

Here's her blog post from April 2019:

https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/alexandra-tara-reade-a-girl-walks-into-the-senate/

Her current allegation is that it was sexual assault, but not even Fox News has picked up the story yet, so we'll see what comes of it. It's on Breitbart and the Intercept, however. Strange bedfellows and neither worthy of consideration without independent verification.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #76)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

81. Even That Does Not Come Near Rape, Sir

 

If stipulated as true, it would not amount to more than misdemeanor battery.
I see no particular reason to believe it, and feel in the presence of a good deal of exaggeration.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #81)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

94. I hope this isn't why Sanders is still in the race.

 

If they were pinning their hopes on this being some kind of bombshell, they're likely going to be disappointed. If Fox News won't even touch it after 24+ hours, there may be no there there.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #50)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:50 PM

64. here is the original article, archived, the cleverclogs deleted it to try and cover tracks

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=686370
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Response to Celerity (Reply #64)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:54 PM

68. The Internet, Ma'am, Is Forever

 

People like you make that quite clear....



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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #68)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

74. Yes, and then there is the dark web, which I admit is beyond my informal skills, but certainly

 

not a professional IT sleuth's.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #74)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

78. I Am Doing Well To Switch One On, Ma'am

 

Not a native. Still, it is something. It calls to mind Tielhard de Chardin's 'noosphere' --- a long pre-computer idea that evolution aimed at a layer of spiritual consciousness over the whole world. Really as far off from what we have now as Democritus' atom is from modern atomic physics, but still, it is something to think about, contemplating this world wide web we communicate through.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #78)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

99. So a collective consciousness on a planetary scale driven by man-made nucleosynthesis?

 

Recapitulation theory ie. "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" is involved as well, or is that a rabbit hole too far?
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Response to Celerity (Reply #99)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:53 PM

100. I Suspect That is, Ma'am

 

My understanding is that 'ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny' no longer taken seriously by evolutionary science. M. de Chardin seems to have been rather hazy about exactly what this 'noosphere' actually would be, and I am familiar only with some commentary on his work, by Mr. Gould. I do think he meant anything produced to design, any sort of tool or artifact, but something organic, some sequence of hereditable alterations of the body and brain. Pushed far enough, it calls to mind something of the old urschleim, an actual film over the globe of consciousness and spirit, but that hardly sounds right. The man was a monk, was not allowed to publish some of his speculative work while he was alive.

One rabbit-hole or another, eh?

I may have had a senior moment and mispelled the thing above, using a 'z' for an 'n'. I will check, and if so will edit.

After checking, I did not mispell.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #100)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

110. extremely interesting concepts, a tech version (far less comprehensive) was proposed by NASA

 

10 plus years ago to combat climate change.

NASA-Cisco climate project to flash 'Planetary Skin'

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/03/03/03greenwire-nasacisco-project-to-flash-planetary-skin-9959.html

Climate science isn't exactly sexy, but the name of the U.S. space agency's latest project has some sizzle.

NASA and Cisco Systems Inc. are developing "Planetary Skin" -- a marriage of satellites, land sensors and the Internet -- to capture, analyze and interpret global environmental data. Under terms of an agreement announced during a Capitol Hill climate summit today, NASA and Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO) will develop the online collaborative platform to process data from satellite, airborne and sea- and land-based sensors around the globe.

The goal is to translate the data into information that governments and businesses can use to mitigate and adapt to climate change and manage energy and natural resources more effectively, NASA and Cisco officials explained in interviews.

"There are a lot of data out there, but we have to turn that into information," explained S. Pete Worden, director of NASA's Ames Research Center. "What we are trying to do is use Cisco's expertise in data handling, put our data in there and explain what's really going on in the rainforests."

Indeed, the partners' first project, "Rainforest Skin," will focus on integrating a comprehensive sensor network in rainforests around the world. The project will examine how to capture, analyze and present information about the changes in the level of carbon dioxide -- the main heat-trapping gas -- in the Amazon and other areas. Information will be posted on the project's Web site.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #110)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:13 PM

111. That Sounds Very Interesting, Ma'am

 

Do you know if it has been put into service?

It sounds like the sort of thing Needy Amin would have shut down if he'd heard of it.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #111)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

118. looks like it is dead and buried, unfortunately, all the links are dead

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #118)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:41 PM

123. A Shame, Ma'am

 

Thank you for this interlude of pleasant conversation.

Be well!
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:46 PM

126. you too Sir!

 

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #50)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:42 AM

139. Which, by the way, does rather give credence to the Dr. Phil piece. n/t

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:41 PM

51. And what does this say about sanders! Who can in good conscious can support him?

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #51)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:49 PM

61. By the end of the year...

 

He will be the most hated man alive other than Trump.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #61)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:58 PM

72. He is certainly headed that way.

 

He needs a life coach to tell him to gtf out of this race before he burns through what's left of his Ben and Jerry brand.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:43 PM

53. All over Twitter. Awful. I thought it would come, but from Trump.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #53)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:49 PM

60. It failed with Flores...and this too will fail to...but Sanders is finished in the Democratic Party.

 

He will most likely retire...no coming back from this.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:50 PM

63. There is no way in hell he will even speak at the convention now.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

96. He needs to be shut out of the entire thing...screw his supporters...we can win without them.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

97. Joe has been talking to young folks on his own

 

He doesn't need Bernie to talk to young people.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #97)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

102. Sanders didn't win them that's for sure...they stayed home. Obama will help with young voters also.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

104. Oh! That's true! He will.

 

Far more than Bernie ever could.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:00 AM

133. They actually came out and voted for pres. Obama.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #133)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:43 AM

135. An article

 

I was reading by an election analyst believes that if we can get massive turnout in young people and people of color that we can’t lose. It was an interesting article that I believe was posted on this site.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #60)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

77. I knew he was after Biden before he even announced with that. Now this. Appalling.

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

93. He is something alright...despicable.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #53)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:52 PM

65. Trump better not go there.

 

He has something like 19 credible accusations of sexual assault or inappropriate touching.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:43 PM

54. It's The Intercept - No Credibility

 

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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:48 PM

59. Tara Reade (the accuser) is a pro-Putin shill

 

Bring The Light

Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.
Dec 17, 2018

https://tinyurl.com/rf6jg65

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Second, I saw the reckless imperialism of America and the pain it caused through out the world. Third, I love Russia with all my heart. I love the people, the history, the culture and even my attempts to learn the language. I could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government. It is so sad and destructive to revile another culture or country for no reason but economic gain.

President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. President Putin has higher approval ratings in America then the American President. President Putin is beloved by Russia and he not going anywhere. Instead of being ensnared in the recent political intrigues (and America is trying hard to set that trap). President Putin is keeping a calm focus on his own country’s development and future, without America.

To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #59)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:52 PM

67. LOL, J.D., that's rich.

 

And we're supposed to believe she was employed by a US senator?
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #67)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:57 PM

71. that part is apparently true

 

https://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-county-woman-says-joe-biden-inappropriately-touched-her-while-working-in-his-u-s-senate-office/

Employment documents provided by Reade show that she worked in Biden’s office from December 1992 to August 1993.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #71)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

75. I'm surprised she lasted 8 months.

 

On the other hand Biden has employed some losers including a guy who embezzled millions. Probably the guy who hired Tara.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #71)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:51 AM

140. At first I thought that said The Onion. :-D n/t

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #59)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

80. Thank you for positing this.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:54 PM

69. This will lose votes for Bernie

 

It's a really bad idea.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

73. For context, here's her original blog post from April 2019.

 

It doesn't detail the current allegations. Those appear to be new.

https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/alexandra-tara-reade-a-girl-walks-into-the-senate/
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #73)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

79. Timeline

 

Something smells fishy here.

In late 2018 this ditz writes insane glowing bullshit about a dictator who may be the most evil man in the world right now.

In April 2019 she first wrote about Biden touching her neck and back several times and made her feel comfortable.

Now in Mar 2020 we're all the way up full-blown rape.

Anxiously awaiting the next episode. But I'd rather have baseball to be perfectly honest.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #73)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:03 PM

107. OK...what a pathetic accuser.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

82. More info

 

Seems this gal is suddenly deleting all the shit she wrote praising Putin and Russia. This is why I don't do Twitter. Or Zuck's Zoo.

https://twitter.com/HKrassenstein/

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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #82)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

130. Interesting information shared here:

 

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/joe-biden-russian-agent/?amp

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #130)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:33 AM

146. Claiming she's some kinda "Russian agent" seems a bit of a stretch

 

Wouldn't surprise me at all if what she originally wrote in her diary or blog or whatever the hell it was a while back is true...that Joe touched her a few times on her neck and back and made her feel uncomfortable. He's an old-style glad-hander politician who's been doing that his whole life. I've seen him do that to men as well as women...but he needs to try and tone that down in today's times. But to pull this out at the last minute and then escalate it into what they've done smacks of despicable desperation.

Plus after reading what she said about Putin and Russia it makes me question her grasp on reality...which is probably why she or somebody else is deleting all this old crap because it makes her look like a loon that hurts her credibility. Can't wait for the next Sanders supporters shoe to drop...as a result of this "sexual attack" she got pregnant so Joe the senile bisexual rapist and devout Catholic forcibly flew her to the Vatican so the Pope himself could perform an abortion.

Is this Putin's work? Probably not...but his IRA boys are scouring the internet for just such material that they can drudge up when the GE campaign starts for real. Gonna be an unbelievably dirty campaign so strap yourself in.

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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #146)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:34 AM

151. Who knows...

 

Regardless - she’s FOS.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

83. How are these crazy accusations tied to Sanders?

 

Sounds like its tied to Putin.
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Response to SharonClark (Reply #83)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

86. Published in the Intercept. And the woman is identified in the article as a Sanders supporter:

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/
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Response to SharonClark (Reply #83)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

87. His staff and surrogates are pushing them.

 

They're retweeting the Intercept article.

Putin was mentioned because the accuser wrote a blog post professing her love for him.


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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

105. Thanks.

 

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #83)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

98. Not when Sanders supporters...known supporters are retweeting this shit...no it comes from the

 

campaign...at the very least they are promoting the Russians if it is the Russians.
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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:36 AM

157. It does, but from an appearance standpoint it's seemingly tied to his supporters...

 

Just go on twitter and count the red roses 🌹 pushing the hashtags. Some of the accounts are real, a lot are not.
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88. Quote Me What Classes As Rape, Fella

 

"Enquiring minds want to know.'
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89. Sorry

 

It'll have to wait until I first listen to the other gazillion audio clips she's made about her beloved Bernie...

https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper

Sander's shill. Looking more like a coordinated setup all the time.
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #89)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

91. This looks like a good one from ol' Katie the Sanders shill

 

Neoliberal Rot with Krystal Ball

On second thought, think I'll see what's on Smithsonian Channel.
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #89)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

95. Looks Like An Old Fashioned Suicide Run, Sir

 

Back in my day, a moderator would be bringing the scalp back to share by now....

"Kill one, warn one hundred."
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

102. This stuff pisses me off

 

the way people through "rape" allegations around like it's nothing. Just a political weapon to be used when you're totally outta all other ideas and are desperate when a campaign is on its last legs.

All it does is make it harder for women who REALLY have been abused and molested to come forward. Shameful.
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #102)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

109. Myself As Well, Sir

 

It does sound like an old rotten campaign trick at this point, on a par with putting a couple of rounds through your campaign office window and accusing your opponent of hiring gunmen, whom you will not be intimidated by. there used to be stock name for such things, but I have forgotten it.

This is something younger people do not like to hear, but while I am a bit shy of Mr. Biden's age, I am old enough to have lived through vast changes in what was considered acceptable behavior in courting and compliment between man and women. People can get caught on the wrong side of a shifting line, without having had anything they would recognize in themselves as bad intent, or without knowledge of what a behavior actually meant to someone else.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #109)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:01 AM

144. Were you thinking of "false flag", Mag?

 

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“False flags,” explained

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/25/18018606/false-flags-clinton-soros-alex-jones-infowars-cnn

Kinda like when Hitler set fire to the Reichstag and then blamed the communists...he actually used this incident to gain absolute control over Germany and began his full-blown dictatorship. Implemented a similar staged scheme near the Polish border that actually started WW2.

Oh, yeah...Uncle Adolf was a real big fan of false-flag operations. Nice to see Bernie's "progressives" resorting to tried and true fascist tactics.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

85. Resign Bernie

 

You are a fucking disgrace now
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

101. Bernie is going lower than anyone ever imagined.

 

A few days ago there was a #RIPBiden trend at #4 on Twitter. It had not been there a little while earlier and suddenly it was at #4! The bots were out to play!

I was about to report the trend when it suddenly disappeared. It went from #4 to totally out of the Top 25 Trending hashtags within a few minutes!

I suspect people reported such a misleading hashtag and Twitter removed it from the Trending hashtags.




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Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #101)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

134. That's Russian crap

 

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #134)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:46 AM

159. That's Russian crap

 

Yes, it started trending very rapidly, pushed by thousands of bots.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

108. BS post....

 

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Response to ashredux (Reply #108)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:23 PM

116. It Does Seem To Overstate The Matter, Sir

 

But the ascription to Sanders' coterie of the thing's fresh circulation seems solid enough. I am inclined to hold a man responsible for what his subordinates do. I have no patience for the man who claims he has no idea what that hand of his doing....





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:14 PM

112. My demand to the DNC: Make Sanders and his surrogates back off from Joe Biden.

 

"The Bernie Sanders campaign is circulating rape and abuse stories about Joe Biden. They have been going too far in sabotaging Biden and broadcasting lies about him for this entire campaign.

I am imploring the DNC to contact Sanders and his campaign surrogates and, in no uncertain terms, tell them to back off and start supporting Joe Biden for President.

We don't need another four years of Trump because a sore loser tried to bring the house down on his way out. We've already been through that, and the devastation we are living with today is the result."

It's time to do something about this.

https://democrats.org/contact-us/
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

114. Yep, saw some of this disgusting sh*t on twitter earlier today. nt

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

115. I saw this trending on twitter earlier in the day

 

Twitter can be a cesspool in times like these. Sanders camping should be denouncing this garbage.
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Response to npk (Reply #115)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:07 AM

186. Nina Turner is pushing it ...

 

… visit her "tweets and replies" to see her support of Susan Sarandon pushing this, among others.
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Response to nolawarlock (Reply #186)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:50 PM

188. Yep they are getting desperate

 

She and David Sirota, among others, that can't seem to move on. It's getting ugly.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:25 PM

117. Geez, so slimy. Looks like something Trump would pull, asking Putin to create dirt on Biden.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

120. Bernie Bro son sent me this

 

[link:https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf|

What horseshit.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

121. Time for Bernie to be a man and speak out against this kind of bullshit.

 

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #121)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

132. Yeah well don't hold your breath.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:38 PM

122. It's funny that Sanders surrogates think he would be the nominee if Biden was out of the race

 

Any chance of that would be remedied at the convention or whatever passes for the convention this year. There is no scenario in which Bernie will be the party’s nominee in 2020.
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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #122)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

131. True that....but Biden will be the nominee.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:47 PM

127. Did not this coordinated smear begin mere seconds after Joe declined further debate with BS?

 

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #127)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

129. I think it probably did.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

136. Oh, this is pretty much precisely what I imagined.

 

I’m long since done being surprised by how low he and his coterie can go.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:29 AM

137. The sick thing is, once it's clear to all that this woman is almost certainly lying ...

 

… none of the bros will apologize. Utterly despicable.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020, 04:35 AM

141. The irony is, Senator Sanders doesn't put the things you mention very highly

 

He thinks trans rights and gay marriage and Roe vs Wade are distractions from the only real issue - the economic wellbeing of the white working class. The latter is a minority of the working class, but it is the one with which Senator Sanders identifies himself, so they're the only ones that count. The idea that if you do not support what they derisively call "identity politics" - straight out of the Republican playbook, that term - makes you not a progressive they cannot understand. For them, to be progressive is to ensure that the white working class gets the money they are owed, and if they ahve to sacrifice every other minority group, then so be it.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020, 05:59 AM

143. Exactly, the alt-left is an illiberal left.

 

The alt-left is culturally libertarian and fiscally hard left, and rejects 'identity politics' which they see as alienating whites. This is abundantly clear on social media where they make their feelings fully known. It's not just about Russian bots, because many actual real life Sanders supporters and media outlets (Intercept,TYT,Chapo Trap House) parrot the same narratives. Many of them were against the Mueller investigation and the impeachment, and are sympathetic to Trumpism, dislike Democrats, etc. Basically the alt-left and alt-right are two sides of the same Putin backed coin.

If Sanders really cared about expanding his movement he would've dropped out and endorsed Biden, to build good will, get people united.

But this latest stunt furthered by his supporters (and Sanders has not come out to denounce it) is why regular Dem voters will never like the Bernie Bros/alt-left because of their toxic tactics - which are indeed unique to them - despite their excuses.
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Response to radius777 (Reply #143)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:41 AM

147. Good post, rad

 

Why were Sanders supporters against the Mueller investigation and impeachment?
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #147)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 08:05 AM

148. It kills their 'Dems are losers' narrative.

 

If Hillary was robbed, then she's a virtuous victim and not the unpopular villain they perceive her (and the Dem party) to be.

Also because many of them are sympathetic to Russia, see Putin as a counterbalance to the Western establishment that they also dislike.
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Response to radius777 (Reply #148)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 08:41 AM

149. Ah, okay thanks

 

That makes sense. I tend to stick to mostly mainstream news sources and don't normally do social media stuff like Facebook or Twitter as many here follow so I haven't been exposed much to what many of Bernie's most ardent supporters and surrogates have been saying or doing. Only reason I've seen any lately is because of all the links peeps post here...a real eye-opener, boy. Anybody who admires or is sympathetic to Putin and his Russia is in no way, shape or form a true "progressive" in my book since everything about him is so antithetical to its ideals. They are truly "illiberal" as you said in a previous post.

I guess that's the problem with any extremist movement...the farther you go to the left or right on the political spectrum the more your available numbers naturally drop off...and so the more "true believers" have to resort to equally extreme measures. Worst-case is armed rebellion or violent revolution...short of bloodshed you have disinformation, deception, demagoguery, propaganda and all the other tricks in the book. Guess that's why so much of what I'm seeing lately in these Twitter links people are posting fit that description to a T.

Progressives only make up 40-45% of the Democratic Party and perhaps 15-20% tops of the entire electorate. Take out all the "normal" non-radicalized non-Bernie Bros Sanders supporters who simply like some of his policies but are not averse to switching over to another good candidate and those percentages drop even further to not much at all. Probably explains why many of these tweets coming from the hard-core Sanders camp resemble a cesspool of chaotic cockamamie crap...which is exactly the reason I've shied away from it in the first place...LOL.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:43 PM

152. Yep.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:39 AM

154. I asked for due process and a decent source

 

And had two different male Bernie supporters mansplaining how I should just believe the woman because of #metoo without questioning.

The odd thing for me is that she accused him of inappropriate touching, then ramped it up a few months later to a full out sexual assault.

When I asked for a decent source I was told that she herself was the decent source.

And yet I’ve only see it in the Intercept and Krystal Ball’s show from the Hill.

I can’t take someone seriously who calls themselves Krystal Ball

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Response to Kerrycrat (Reply #154)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:59 AM

160. It's also all over right-wing media.

 

Breitbart, Daily Caller, all the usual suspects.

Curiously, it's not on Fox News. If Fox won't even touch the story, then it probably deserves a bit of scrutiny. And skepticism.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:30 AM

156. I imagined. He can go lower still.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:30 AM

158. Biden Accuser Tara Reade is a Bankrupt Voice Actress

 

At first glance, Biden accuser Alexandra Tara Reade is a mystery. There are few, if any, records for an individual under that name prior 2018. This is because Alexandra Tara Reade is an alias for Alexandra Tara McCabe, a former radio host, voice actor, and community college adjunct who was, until recently at least, in desperate financial straits. McCabe declared bankruptcy in 2012, listing $1,250 in assets and a staggering $406,407.44 in liabilities. Yet somehow she claims to own a horse?

Read the full story here:
https://link.medium.com/vuFShr5cc5
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Response to ONI.Research (Reply #158)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:11 AM

161. Who did the research? Who is "ONI"?

 

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Response to marble falls (Reply #161)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:34 PM

167. ONI (鬼おに) is a Japanese troll/yōkai, so caveat emptor

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #167)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:54 PM

179. Nice catch.

 

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Response to ONI.Research (Reply #158)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:20 AM

162. Interesting, Sir

 

It would be good to know more about who put this together, and how it was done.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #162)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:15 AM

164. Interesting indeed

 

But I would want to know more about the source as well
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Response to ONI.Research (Reply #158)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:39 AM

163. Nuttier than squirrel poop! NT

 

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Response to ONI.Research (Reply #158)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:13 PM

165. The medium story has been deleted.

 

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Response to ONI.Research (Reply #158)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:10 PM

166. The story was deleted by the author

 

Welcome to DU!
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Response to DesertRat (Reply #166)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:41 PM

168. I Have It On An Open Browser Still, Sir

 

I suppose I might try screen-caps....

The material is impressively presented, and the facial images seem to establish the identity. Much of is copies of official records, apparently. The paragraph in the post above is a fair summary of the gist of the claim, though there is good deal more detail offered, and further activities referenced.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #168)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:25 PM

173. Ok, sir

 

The story has been deleted. Btw, I am a woman.
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Response to DesertRat (Reply #173)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:29 PM

178. I Have It All Screen-Capped, Ma'am

 

Haven't processed anything, but is all preserved....
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #168)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

182. Gyazo is the best screenshot tool

 

https://gyazo.com

free and super easy to use

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Response to Celerity (Reply #182)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

183. I Have Done It With Whatever Was On My Machine, Ma'am

 

Feel rather proud of myself, actually. I will check out your suggestion, and appreciate it, but I closed the tab once I was finished. I opened the link when that ONI fellow posted, and the tab was forgotten, and lingered as I shifted among various things, one of them preparing an 'Aeroplane in a Bottle' post for the Lounge here. When people posted the ONI stuff had been scrubbed I noticed the tab, and it still showed the content.

Still don't know, mind, that it was on the up and up. It looks good, and I have seen confirmation of the name change elsewhere (a nearby thread referencing her old twitter account), but I haven't examined the material closely. There are bankruptcy records, with an outlandish ratio of debts to assets, something on the order of four hundred to one at a glance, and some other stuff, promotional materials for some attempts at businesses mostly. All combining to give a general impression of hard times and general quirkiness, with a teaser towards the end of some on-line comment purportedly from her about her bank account. At any rate, it still exists on my machine. My small contribution to the internet never forgetting. I have no idea what to do with it save store it. I have an image hosting account, but do not it want to put it up there.
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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:46 PM

170. I fear we'll be stuck with this story for a while.

 

Not only do many anti-Biden folks, whether they are rooting for Sanders or Trump, have an obvious interest in keeping it alive, but so do news organizations.

For example, Vox wrote a story on this-- it broke no new ground and merely regurgitated what other people have said. They then tweeted about the story, like they do with all their stories. Here's how many "likes" each of 10 consecutive stories in their Twitter feed got:

131
22
47
74
53
10,100
40
26
51
60

Guess which one was the story on this accusation?

This is what we're stuck with. News organizations live and die by clicks and hits. And that means they're going to drool over this, even when they have nothing new to say, like Vox.
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Response to BlueCheese (Reply #170)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:50 PM

175. This Sounds Less Credible Than Larry Sinclair's Allegations Against Obama

 

Larry Sinclair tried to peddle a story that he was President Obama's gay lover who snorted cocaine President Obama. It was fringe and the fact that Sinclair did a series of publicity stunts caused most reasonable folks to dismiss these allegations except for the fringe.

Likewise, you have a person who is an adamant Bernie/Putin supporter who is changing and embellishing her story, and it is picked of all places by the Intercept, which has had a long history of running pro-Russian, anti-Democratic stories.

Yet, BS decides to push this in an effort to once again undercut the Democratic nominee. BS cannot win based on his ideas, so he once again pushes unsubstantiated smears against his opponents.

When it was just Hillary Clinton, people could give BS the benefit of the doubt. This time around, he has smeared everyone whether its his own protege, Beto O'Rourke, to his allies, Elizabeth Warren, and now Joe Biden. BS has demonstrated that he is more than willing to traffic in smear jobs regardless of whether it harms the parties' chances of winning in November.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:56 PM

176. I'm not sure this is really happening.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:27 PM

177. Slander worked for trump

 

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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:02 PM

180. Sanders' surrogates need to be banned from the convention.

 

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #180)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:04 PM

181. There's no going back after this.

 

They are taking their nastiness too far. Who the hell would want to be aligned with people like them?
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #181)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:45 AM

184. Hope so. There was "going back" after attempted election theft,

 

remember. I thought that was beyond shocking since it revealed that this person running on our Democratic ballot would smash democracy as a path to power as readily as Trump. If he could. The Republicans are just much better at it is all. Not only was Sanders not shunned by all the Democrats whose sovereignty he tried to overthrow ( ), some even supported a 2020 deja vu all over again.

Accusing Biden of rape is just more of his 7 years of slander as SOP, but good if this finally is the last straw on a very tall and putrid pile. This populist candidacy needs to die and stop shaming and corrupting our party and kicking at the foundations of our democracy.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

187. Still not showing up on mainstream sources.

 

Looks like it was a desperate Hail Mary attempt at sabotage, and it didn't work.
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