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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:02 AM Mar 2020

New Poll Shows Biden Trouncing Trump In 300 Swing Counties Across America 😎

A new poll shows that in key swing counties that will decide the Electoral College winner in the upcoming general election, former Vice President Joe Biden is trouncing Donald Trump

But for the president, a more troubling piece of data from the survey is that Biden leads by a whopping nine percentage points in 300 swing counties across America.

“The poll results suggest Biden may actually be starting out with an advantage in crucial swing areas of the country,” he added.
The Electoral College, not popular vote, should be the focus


At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how large or small Biden’s national popular vote margin is as long as he performs well in regions of the country that decide the Electoral College winner




https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/24/new-poll-shows-biden-trouncing-trump-in-300-swing-counties-across-america.html





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New Poll Shows Biden Trouncing Trump In 300 Swing Counties Across America 😎 (Original Post) Iamaartist Mar 2020 OP
This is encouraging for America and the World! Cha Mar 2020 #1
Our Next 46th President ... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #2
Thank you! Cha Mar 2020 #4
Thank you for including the World, getting rid of Trump matters to us too ! OnDoutside Mar 2020 #45
I always try to include the whole Planet... Cha Mar 2020 #47
Thank God! bobGandolf Mar 2020 #3
K&R Iamaartist Mar 2020 #5
NICE quakerboy Mar 2020 #6
K&R Iamaartist Mar 2020 #17
This is great news but its odd they are reporting this by county. honest.abe Mar 2020 #7
not when 2016 was 'won' from 70,000 voters in scattered counties. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #8
Right but how do we know which counties they are referring to? honest.abe Mar 2020 #12
The poll release explains it DarthDem Mar 2020 #34
Rick Wilson BidenBacker Mar 2020 #9
This! NCProgressive Mar 2020 #10
Assuming NC stands for North Carolina BidenBacker Mar 2020 #30
I think NC will be blue in 2020 NCProgressive Mar 2020 #32
Holy shit, NC BidenBacker Mar 2020 #36
Remember that Barack Obama won NC in 2008 NCProgressive Mar 2020 #37
North Carolina is always tricky DarthDem Mar 2020 #38
Thanks a lot for the interesting background summary, DD BidenBacker Mar 2020 #39
Hey, you're most welcome! DarthDem Mar 2020 #40
Here's how I look at it right now BidenBacker Mar 2020 #42
There's also GA DarthDem Mar 2020 #43
Maybe we need a few more right wing hit men to True Blue American Mar 2020 #13
The Lincoln Project BidenBacker Mar 2020 #28
Thank-you...for link...love flamingos.... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #19
Electoral College for th BIG WIN. nt oasis Mar 2020 #11
K&R Hope so ..we need mail absentee ballots in all states...so GOP cant rig our elections Iamaartist Mar 2020 #20
That's why Trump wants to eliminate as many voters as he can IronLionZion Mar 2020 #14
Trump's killing off his elderly and clueless base, and pissing off everybody else. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #15
We have to watch to see that he doesn't get it. lastlib Mar 2020 #16
Mail in absentee ballots better Iamaartist Mar 2020 #23
If he starts killing the old then start with the GOP in the WH.... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #21
Mass Murder Mitch is pretty damned old too. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #22
78 yrs old hate turtle face.... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #24
Turtle face can crawl in his shell forever.... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #26
Kick! mcar Mar 2020 #18
K&R Iamaartist Mar 2020 #25
THIS. Thanks for the good news! ancianita Mar 2020 #27
Love your flamingoes. lark Mar 2020 #29
cute...lol ....Our house has alot of flamingos decorations Iamaartist Mar 2020 #33
WHAT is in the shrimp you are feeding those flamingos?? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #31
LOL...🦩 Iamaartist Mar 2020 #35
Go Joe, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2020 #41
K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #44
I'd like to see some honest polls on Biden's projected coattails, Hortensis Mar 2020 #46
Rachel Maddow would be dense enough to believe this poll Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #48
Don't worry...be happy BidenBacker Mar 2020 #49
 

Cha

(295,905 posts)
1. This is encouraging for America and the World!
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:12 AM
Mar 2020
But for the president, a more troubling piece of data from the survey is that Biden leads by a whopping nine percentage points in 300 swing counties across America.

Mahalo Iamaartist! StaySafe!
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
2. Our Next 46th President ...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:30 AM
Mar 2020

Stay safe...

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OnDoutside

(19,906 posts)
45. Thank you for including the World, getting rid of Trump matters to us too !
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020
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Cha

(295,905 posts)
47. I always try to include the whole Planet...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

it's all our Planet that he's ******* with.

StaySafe, OnDoutside!

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bobGandolf

(871 posts)
3. Thank God!
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:31 AM
Mar 2020

We have got to get this monster out of office.

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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
7. This is great news but its odd they are reporting this by county.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:50 AM
Mar 2020

Why didnt they report it by state since the EC votes are assigned by state? To me this isnt very useful unless we can see the state by state breakdown.

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wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
8. not when 2016 was 'won' from 70,000 voters in scattered counties.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:35 AM
Mar 2020
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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
12. Right but how do we know which counties they are referring to?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:08 AM
Mar 2020

What states and what are the numbers per state. This is confusing data without reference to a particular state.

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DarthDem

(5,253 posts)
34. The poll release explains it
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:58 AM
Mar 2020

The poll release from Monmouth is linked in the article. The release states that there are approximately 300 counties across the U.S. where the margin in 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Mr. Trump was less than ten points either way. In those counties, while Hillary won in 2016 by only a single percentage point overall, Joe Biden is ahead by nine points.

I don't know what those counties are and Monmouth probably could/should have listed them, but I bet a web search will turn them up pretty fast.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
9. Rick Wilson
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:51 AM
Mar 2020

The following was a link inside your main article. I suggest folks take a few minutes to read it, especially Sanders supporters...

How to dump Trump: Rick Wilson on Running Against the Devil

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/11/donald-trump-rick-wilson-running-against-the-devil

Wilson is a former GOP hitman...Dems need to listen to this guy. Have made more than one post in recent days and weeks saying the exact same thing. THIS is why Bernie staying in the race is hurting our chances. THIS is why the most extreme Bernie Bros need to back off and not force Biden to make too many concessions before the nomination and election. THIS is how we bury Trump and the GOP in November. Listen to him or we might lose. Win and rest assured that Joe will pass as much liberal and progressive legislation as we can afford and that we can get through Congress depending on our numbers next January.

Love them flamingos, BTW...enough to save the gif. Sure hope we're all doin' the bird dance the night of November 3rd. But if Wilson can't wise us up we might just be a bunch of despairing dead duck Dems instead. Take how bad we all felt the night of the last presidential election and multiply that by ten...that's what we have to look forward to and what it'll feel like if we fuck this up. If that happens making a stupid post on some obscure forum ain't gonna cut it for solace...I may have to eat a bullet.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
30. Assuming NC stands for North Carolina
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:35 AM
Mar 2020

you think we got any realistic shot at winning your state this year?

I imagine this Burr stock thing that broke a few days ago can't be helping the GOP any. Would be awesome if we could move south of Virginia and color another Dixie state blue.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
32. I think NC will be blue in 2020
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
36. Holy shit, NC
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:01 AM
Mar 2020

I found this a few minutes before you responded...

NC Voter Registration Statistics

https://vt.ncsbe.gov/RegStat/Results/?date=03%2F21%2F2020

As of March 21...

Democratic: 2,528,232
Republican: 2,081,336
Independent: 2,302,222

More Ds than Rs?! That's shocking to me. I'd say based on that alone NC is definitely in play.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
37. Remember that Barack Obama won NC in 2008
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:05 AM
Mar 2020

and we lost it by a sliver in 2012 and 2016.

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DarthDem

(5,253 posts)
38. North Carolina is always tricky
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:12 AM
Mar 2020

I spent some extended time there.

The issue is that Charlotte, the largest city, is not as blue as one might expect, and therefore the cities have difficulty compensating for the rural areas (the other cities are far too small and not all overwhelmingly blue either). There is, however, a lot of Democratic support in the rural areas, more so than one might think, and so the state is always close.

I thought - perhaps wrongly - that Hillary Clinton took PA, MI, and WI for granted in an attempt to win NC and FL. I don't want Joe Biden to make the same choice this time around. But NC is far less expensive and resource-intensive than Florida, and if memory serves has a higher African-American population. NC also has a Senate race (and anger among the electorate at the apparent wrongdoing or possibly even crimes of the other senator, Burr, who is not up for reelection); FL has no Senate race. So I support efforts to fight in NC as well as GA and AZ provided that PA/MI/WI have been shored up (and I'm really only worried about the last of those three). I don't really want to see time and resources wasted in Florida.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
39. Thanks a lot for the interesting background summary, DD
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

For some reason I often erroneously think of NC as being redder (or at least less purple) than it really is and had forgotten what NCP just pointed out about Obama's 2008 win there. If not mistaken there has also been a recent influx of high-tech industrial parks there and those workers tend to be more liberal. Same thing is happening here in Arizona with migration changing the demographics, but Pubs still outnumber Dems by 2 or 3%...

Arizona Voter Registration & Historical Election Data

https://azsos.gov/elections/voter-registration-historical-election-data

I'm with you on WI...not worried about PA or MI because I seriously doubt Biden will just blow them off like we did in 2016. But WI will likely be the closest of the 3. Even if we can't flip it back I have high hopes for AZ which would more than compensate and if we can also add NC then Joe is well on his way without even needing any other help like OH or FL although it would obviously be great to pick those up as well.

2020 may still be close but if it's a blowout then it can only be a Democratic one which is an advantage for us. Would much rather be a D than an R heading into this one for sure.

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DarthDem

(5,253 posts)
40. Hey, you're most welcome!
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:45 PM
Mar 2020

That influx of high-tech workers (principally around the Research Triangle I believe) that you point out is real and has been underway for a while, as has the bluing of Charlotte, but they've both been very, very sloooooow. Meanwhile the Republicans drastically gerrymandered both the U.S. House and the state lege, giving them the microphone monopoly and demoralizing Dems and their backers. Those gerrymanders are unwinding, however, and North Carolinians seem to be coming to the realization - particularly given Governor Cooper's popularity and effectiveness including in this crisis - that Tillis and Burr are empty suits.

I think as you do - NC is going to be fertile ground, but it's always close. I feel very good about PA and MI and as long as we can focus properly on Wisconsin (which no longer has wonder boys Walker or Ryan to interfere with us), I think time spent in NC, AZ and GA - I really like your stats on AZ - is a very good investment. I would still leave FL largely alone, though. Let them come along for the ride if they wish.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
42. Here's how I look at it right now
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:47 PM
Mar 2020

Assume that:
1) Joe wins every state that Hillary did
2) Biden also picks up PA & MI

Both of these seem to be reasonable assumptions at the moment that will hopefully hold up thru the election. If so, then all Biden has to do is pick off just 1 outta a handful of other states...AZ, FL, NC, OH & WI seem to be the best candidates. Joe gets just one of them and we got it.

Meanwhile, the Fuhrer would have to run the entire table...and that moron couldn't even run a lemonade stand.

I like our chances...a lot. Putin's boys are gonna have to put in a helluva lot of overtime on THIS election.

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DarthDem

(5,253 posts)
43. There's also GA
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020

Very winnable. Probably more so than FL.
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True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
13. Maybe we need a few more right wing hit men to
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:39 AM
Mar 2020

Come over to our side! Those who have are doing a fine job.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
28. The Lincoln Project
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:22 AM
Mar 2020

I donated a few bucks to these guys a month or two ago. Never in a million years did I ever think I'd give money to Republicans..even if they are all now former ones dedicated to ousting Trump along with several GOP Senators they are targeting like McSally here in Arizona.

They sent me an email yesterday inviting me to dial into some special event that Wilson and a few other founders were having last night and perhaps ask a question but I lost track of time and failed to do so which I am kicking myself for now. Woulda loved to have heard what Rick and the others said.

Used to hate 99% of all Goppers but thanks to Trump we are finding out there really are some good conservatives who put country before party. Still disagree with many/most of their preferred policies but at least I don't question their patriotism. So I guess we have Trump to thank for that. Give me a decade or two and maybe I'll come up with another reason to be thankful.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
19. Thank-you...for link...love flamingos....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:49 AM
Mar 2020
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oasis

(49,151 posts)
11. Electoral College for th BIG WIN. nt
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:57 AM
Mar 2020
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
20. K&R Hope so ..we need mail absentee ballots in all states...so GOP cant rig our elections
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:51 AM
Mar 2020
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IronLionZion

(45,258 posts)
14. That's why Trump wants to eliminate as many voters as he can
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:41 AM
Mar 2020

primarily from cities and blue states.

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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. Trump's killing off his elderly and clueless base, and pissing off everybody else.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:02 AM
Mar 2020

Trump's gonna need a lot of help from Uncle Vlad to pull this one out of the shitter.

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lastlib

(22,981 posts)
16. We have to watch to see that he doesn't get it.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020

So many reports in 2016 of voter info shenanigans, & Dems accused Repugs; then we see reports of Russians messing with voter databases. I'm not saying the repugs were totally innocent; but stuff did happen that hurt us.

And we know that Vladdy Daddy is still pulling sh*t......

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
23. Mail in absentee ballots better
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:59 AM
Mar 2020

Because GOP don't want it because they can rig the voting machines with foreign help. easier...

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
21. If he starts killing the old then start with the GOP in the WH....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020
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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
22. Mass Murder Mitch is pretty damned old too.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:57 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
24. 78 yrs old hate turtle face....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:01 AM
Mar 2020
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
26. Turtle face can crawl in his shell forever....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020
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ancianita

(35,812 posts)
27. THIS. Thanks for the good news!
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lark

(23,003 posts)
29. Love your flamingoes.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:23 AM
Mar 2020

My daughter chose that as her "animal" when she was in middle school, lol.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
33. cute...lol ....Our house has alot of flamingos decorations
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:58 AM
Mar 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
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FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
31. WHAT is in the shrimp you are feeding those flamingos??
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

I'll have what they're having !!!

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. I'd like to see some honest polls on Biden's projected coattails,
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:36 PM
Mar 2020

an indulgence since they'd presumably also show very good, but of course those would be very expensive and it's too early to predict what might happen next fall. 2016 PTSD.

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
48. Rachel Maddow would be dense enough to believe this poll
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 05:05 PM
Mar 2020

Come on, use a fleck of common sense. Swing counties are swing counties for a reason. They mirror the national breakdown. There is 0.0000001% chance that Biden leads those counties by 9 points while leading nationally by only 3 points.

The poll itself says that Hillary and Trump tied in those counties. Hillary won by roughly 2.5% nationally. Now they want us to believe that swing areas have shifted nearly 10 points in our favor yet the national distribution remains unchanged?

Tell it to an idiot. When there is a preference shift of that magnitude it drapes like a blanket. It would be felt everywhere. This is when I miss being in Las Vegas. As soon as some nutcase stat or poll came out we would laugh at it in unison.

This is no different than Rachel Maddow grinning in 2016 while waving a South Carolina poll in the air with Hillary trailing Trump by 4 points. If you have no clue regarding the big picture correlation then anything can stick.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
49. Don't worry...be happy
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020
The 2018 Midterms, In 4 Charts

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-2018-midterms-in-4-charts/

Latest House results confirm 2018 wasn't a blue wave. It was a blue tsunami.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/politics/latest-house-vote-blue-wave/index.html

Sizing Up the 2018 Blue Wave

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/07/us/politics/how-democrats-took-the-house.html

The numerous districts that Democrats flipped blue in 2018 did so by an average of a whopping 21%. This wasn't a one-time mid-term fluke. I don't put too much stock in national polls...they don't even matter all that much with our electoral college system. You need to drill down to states and districts.

Anybody here who thinks Trump is gonna bring all them big blue arrows pointing left back to red gonna lose some big bucks.

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