Warren is calling out Sanders' supporters

[RandySF]

For racism, misogyny and threats of violence.

[Celerity]

1. this needed to be done, they are out of control

[blm]

17. ✔️

[NurseJackie]

23. High time.

[uponit7771]

54. THIS !!!!

[we can do it]

74. About time.

[DonaldsRump]

2. Grand, but where? n/t

[Celerity]

3. Rachel

https://streamfare.net/msnbc.html

[OKNancy]

5. Maddow

[DonaldsRump]

18. Thank you both! Watching now. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

4. She sure is

I think he can forget an endorsement.

[Cha]

7. On tv?

[BeyondGeography]

8. She's live with Rachel

[Cha]

32. Thank you.. I'm glad she calling that out.

[Celerity]

11. yes live right now, she said his supporters try to draw strength by dividing and attacking people

[Cha]

35. Wow! TY Celerity..

[True Blue American]

176. Very popular TV show.

They have showed clips all day long.

[Cha]

186. Great! TY TBA!

[Cha]

9. That's ok .. I just read it was on Rachel's

[blm]

13. Good. His campaign team is filled with cruel, loathsome beings.

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His TEAM not the bulk of his supporters, though some of the online presence has been incredibly cruel, Trumpish cruel to Warren and her supporters.

[BeyondGeography]

15. We agree

[NYMinute]

22. Absolutely

[dalton99a]

34. It is a deplorable situation

[McKim]

70. If You Keep Bashing, Do You think Sanders Voters Will Vote for Biden?

If you keep bashing Sanders supporters, do you think they will turn around and vote for Biden?
Just stop it already!!!!!

[we can do it]

75. 😂😂bashing??!😂😂

Call the waaaaambulance.

[Kahuna7]

168. +1 nt

[blm]

79. If Sanders team keeps urging his supporters to attack others the way

they attacked Warren, then they are NOT bashing?

[Thekaspervote]

95. Sanders needs to tell his supporters to vote for the dem nominee

That would be the most helpful. Unfortunately approx 50% of his supporters say they won’t vote for anyone but him.

The division came from the top!

[wiley]

153. Agreed

No pass for attacks on women and immigrants.

[Generic Brad]

99. Why worry? They're not voting for Sanders either

[we can do it]

170. 😂😂😂

[katmondoo]

101. They don't have to there are enough votes without the Bernie people

[uponit7771]

102. Stating facts isn't bashing

[Vivienne235729]

119. +10000 EXACTLY!!

[LiberalFighter]

107. They need to clean up their behavior. And focus on why their candidate is the best.

Instead of terrorizing the other campaigns. That is what Lee Atwater would had pushed back in the old days.

[True Blue American]

177. Republicans tactics

[Cha]

136. She's not "bashing" sanders.

[llashram]

163. but, but

who is bashing whom?

[Eyeball_Kid]

179. The "conspiratorial" side of me says that...

Those "cruel, loathsome" beings in the Sanders camp are agent provocateurs encouraged by the GOP/Putin to cause disenchantment with the Sanders campaign so as to SUPPRESS THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE. Think through this, everyone, and above all commit yourselves to VOTE.

[sheshe2]

16. Ya think.

[texasfiddler]

6. Good for Rachel

She is really pushing this issue. I think it is very important.

[Cha]

38. So grateful!

[LaurenOlimina]

10. Hard to stop it.

They are talking about unprecedented solutions. Sanders saying he distances himself and condemns the attacks is not working.

[Celerity]

14. Bernie's distancing attempts and attempts to get them to stop are weak sauce

[LaurenOlimina]

20. uhh huh... that's why they had to discuss unprecedented solutions.

Obviously Bernie's people don't listen to him. They don't vote when he asks them, why would they stop trolling?

[Celerity]

29. I am saying he did not spank them down hard enough, not saying that they would stop at all

But giving them a right proper smack-down would at least make him appear more credible.

Instead it was almost a wink and a nod.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

60. Exactly

They're still playing a dangerous game

[druidity33]

142. What authority does he have?

To "smack-down" his "supporters"? What makes you think he will have ANY effect on the "Bros"?

[Celerity]

143. It would have an impact, absolutely. would it stop all of it? No, of course not, but it would

certainly help. He IS responsible for his supporters behaviour, he will be held accountable, most by being punished electorally in his bid. He sets the tenor and tone from the top, and his tone is pure division atm.

If he has no real path after March 17th, he needs to stand down. Odds are quite good he is crushed in many of the upcoming (March 10th to March 17th) primaries.


March 10: Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, and Washington primaries; North Dakota firehouse caucus
March 14: Northern Mariana Islands caucuses
March 15: The eleventh Democratic debate will take place in Phoenix, Arizona.
March 17: Arizona, Florida, Illinois, and Ohio primaries
March 24: Georgia primary
March 29: Puerto Rico primary
April 2020
April 4: Alaska and Hawaii party-run primaries; Louisiana primary; Wyoming caucus
April 7: Wisconsin primary
April 28: Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island primaries
April 29: Voting in the Oregon primary begins.[319]
May 2020
May 2: Guam caucus; Kansas party-run primary
May 5: Indiana primary
May 12: Nebraska and West Virginia primaries
May 19: Kentucky and Oregon primaries
June 2020
June 2: District of Columbia, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota primaries
June 6: Virgin Islands caucuses

[Ace Rothstein]

26. I don't think his attempts are weak.

I think they are just far too late.

[LisaM]

37. No, they aren't "weak".

They are non-existent.

[we can do it]

80. Exactly.

[Blue_true]

65. They were feeble at best. He could have started by challenging his rally crowds

when they booed democrats.

[Todd79]

84. He should've cleaned house

Nina and her ilk lead the charge on that. Your campaign needs to lead by example.

[Blue_true]

90. Yes. nt

[Dorian Gray]

145. Yes...

and disassociate the campaign with people like Shaun King, who spreads misinformation and altered narratives. Always negative about other candidates and little positive about own candidate.

[PupCamo]

165. Shaun King needs his twitter privileges taken away

I've seen more truthful tweets coming from Trump

[True Blue American]

181. Sirota

Turner are the leaders.

[betsuni]

93. Ugh. Remember his surprised delighted laughter when the crowd at his rally last December

booed the loudest when he said he was criticized by establishment Democrats. Trump and Republicans, a few boos. The health care industry, a few more. Establishment Democrats, EVERYONE BOOS. He has trained them well.

[Celerity]

147. he just did it again last night, the crowd booed Biden, and also the 'establishment' Democrats

Super hostile.

I fully expect a 2008 Clinton primary voter level of defection (24-25% voted McCain, 5% did not vote) or higher from his 2020 supporters this go-round. Not saying 25% will vote for Trump, but they will go 3rd Party or stay home I fear, as they are FAR less actual Democrats in 2020 than they were in 2016.

https://isps.yale.edu/research/data/d130

https://sites.duke.edu/hillygus/files/2014/06/hendersonhillygustompsonPOQ.pdf



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/

Another useful comparison is to 2008, when the question was whether Clinton supporters would vote for Barack Obama or John McCain (R-Ariz.) Based on data from the 2008 Cooperative Campaign Analysis Project, a YouGov survey that also interviewed respondents multiple times during the campaign, 24 percent of people who supported Clinton in the primary as of March 2008 then reported voting for McCain in the general election.

An analysis of a different 2008 survey by the political scientists Michael Henderson, Sunshine Hillygus and Trevor Thompson produced a similar estimate: 25 percent. (Unsurprisingly, Clinton voters who supported McCain were more likely to have negative views of African Americans, relative to those who supported Obama.)

Thus, the 6 percent or 12 percent of Sanders supporters who may have supported Trump does not look especially large in comparison with these other examples.

snip

[betsuni]

148. It's not 2008.

[Celerity]

149. yes, it might be an even higher defection rate, but the overall numbers of voters he will

end up with will be far less. Still, it is a potentially huge problem.

[onetexan]

144. exactly, BS distances himself from his supporters like the Idiot distances himself from fascists

Trump: "i condemn...OK?"

Back channel to fascists: wink wink

[W_HAMILTON]

19. It's not hard to stop it.

Sanders himself fosters this toxic environment. From refusing to join the party and taking cheap shots at it constantly, to trashing other Democrats with misleading and disingenuous attacks and equating them to Republicans, to hiring Stein-voting divisive trash for the upper echelons of his campaign, to making excuses for his supporters behavior and trying to play the "everyone has mean supporters" card and blaming Russia for it, etc.

The tone at the top matters.

[NYMinute]

25. There is a saying

"Fish rots from the head first"

[MFGsunny]

52. + 1000

YES! This is literally FUNDAMENTAL in all management implementation.

"Fish rots from the head down" is how it was taught to me.
Obviously ...... all the same.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Why didn't the supporters of other candidates act so badly?

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[DrToast]

41. Ding ding ding!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. They attack every other candidate and his or her supporters.

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[Blue_true]

66. Are you writing really fast? Your last two posts seem to be missing words. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. ADD

I'm posting at three separate sites, reading online magazine articles, and watching a basketball game.

[Blue_true]

73. Ok, I get it. Multitasking is what I call it. nt

[Just_Vote_Dem]

82. Wow you're good

[OKNancy]

59. More mature

[Blue_true]

67. They are true democrats that understand what our core values are. nt

[Dem2theMax]

68. I'm almost afraid to say this on here.

But I noticed that the supporters tend to act exactly like the person they are supporting.

[Vivienne235729]

122. That's a darn good question!!!

[Happy Hoosier]

40. He could stop Nina Turner and David Sirota....

... he chooses not too.

[MFGsunny]

55. Bingo! We have another winner. n/t

[Blue_true]

62. He could have repeated forceful statements, AND called out his

rally audiences for booing democrats.

[W_HAMILTON]

12. As well she should.

[HarlanPepper]

21. Hard to see her endorsing Bernie for a few reasons

1. She is clearly still thinking about how she and those associated with her campaign were treated. She also mentioned the private conversation with Bernie about the subject was “short.” It was probably a lot like the mansplaining incident she endured at one of the debates.

2. She probably doesn’t think he’s going to be the nominee so why bother.

3. Bernie was not the choice of voters in her state.

More likely at this point she doesn’t endorse at all.

[Moderateguy]

28. She just endorsed without endorsing

She called out Sanders, so to most people she seems to be saying Biden. She obviously is not going to endorse Tulsi

[HarlanPepper]

33. Yes, good point.

[Indykatie]

83. I Think She Will Endorse Biden After Bernie Flops on March 10 and 17th

[Mersky]

24. Is validating to hear from her

After what I’ve been seen online. I don’t like bullying tactics from the right or the left.

[vercetti2021]

27. Good she needs to

His brats are out of control and act like MAGAts

[Celerity]

39. Nina Turner (52), David Sirota (44), Susan Sarandon (73), Michael Moore (soon 66) are hardly brats

[vercetti2021]

42. Yet they act like brats

Age doesn't stop you from acting like a spoiled child. Look at Trump for big time definition

[Celerity]

47. this is a valid point nt

[vercetti2021]

48. Yep

Nina on CNN tonight was a huge example. These people on Bernie's side are highly unprofessional and act like the world should be given to Bernie like he is entitled.

[Celerity]

51. too 'true believer' for my taste, I don't do cults

[vercetti2021]

53. Me neither

I'm happy I left that BernieBro side in 2016. I grew up.

[MustLoveBeagles]

114. She's awful

Symone Sanders has more class in her broken fingernail than Nina has in her whole body.

[vercetti2021]

115. Symone is a legit badass

I love that woman.

[MustLoveBeagles]

117. True dat

I love her too. One of Joe's best hires.

[we can do it]

77. Be careful, I got dinged for calling the brats brats.

[vercetti2021]

97. I don't care

Ding me for being right? Mean people who have been on Twitter and Facebook can't tell me I'm wrong. My own friends have been throwing hot garbage at me all day because of my support for Joe. And one is much older than me and he's a huge brat.

[dalton99a]

30. And this is not a new phenomenon with his movement.

[Celerity]

45. correct, it is not new at all

Here Comes the Berniebro

(2015)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/here-comes-the-berniebro-bernie-sanders/411070/

The Berniebro is #FeelingtheBern.

The Berniebro is posting a video on his Facebook wall: You really have to watch this. Bernie Sanders says things that no other candidate would ever consider. These are real policy proposals that just might change the country.

The Berniebro asks what you thought of the first Democratic debate, then interrupts to say that you shouldn’t confuse Clinton’s soundbites for actual substance. By the way, the Berniebro adds, he was really impressed with Bernie.

snip

[Blue_true]

72. We have seen the threats and physical bullying before.

And Sanders always say that he can't do anything about it. Well for one, he can start by telling his rally crowd to never boo a democrat, say something like "we disagree with them strongly, but they are good people that believe they are working for the best change for the country". But he says nothing, and even makes statements that amplify the booing.

[TomCADem]

108. But They Continue to Deny It...

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

110. Great imagination. She is as good as Kellyanne

[yaesu]

31. Its been an excellent interview so far, should be a full hour I would guess. The problem with over

exuberant supporters that use bullying tactics has & will cost Bernie votes. I think most if not all are republican or russian plants. He can do little to control those idiots but he should do all he can to call them out.

[Celerity]

49. zero chance most are Rethugs or Russians, they are OTT Americans who want to burn it all down

[not_the_one]

96. hmmm, Bannon and Miller want to burn it all down.

AMERICANS do NOT want to burn it all down.

Pooties people do, though.

[Celerity]

103. so you actually think that most Bros are Russians?

they are just asshole Americans

amd many DO want to burn it down

wander over to JPR or some hardcore Berner Reddit for a shit tonne of examples

[fleabiscuit]

121. "not_the_one" didn't say that. You interpreted it that way. nt

[Celerity]

123. from the thread flow it looks to me like what I said nt

[whathehell]

134. Um, no one said "most", but our intelligence agencies have

confirmed that Russians interfered in the '16 election and are
continuing to interfere in our politics

If you're in doubt on that, you need to check their levels of interference in Britain's Brexit debacle.

[Celerity]

135. I am not talking about random bots, I am talking about real, live, actual core supporters and social

media lead surrogates, websites (Common Dreams, Truthdig, Alternet, etc), shows (like TYT) and magazine (Jacobin, Current Affairs etc) types.

Those are are almost all real Americans. I think that Russian agitprop gloms onto their memes, but it deffo si American started and American at is core.

[whathehell]

137. I'm sorry, but AlterNet, Common Dreams, and Truthout

are all websites to which I subscribe and I see no "Bernie Bro" antagonism on any of them, certainly not at the editorial level. Having said that, I'm curious about your opinions on Brexit. Were Russsians substantially involved, or was it mainly asshole Brits?

[Celerity]

138. A combination of things, a tonne of Little Englanders, some contrarian Left, lying Leave leadership,

some manipulation by the Russians, lots of immigrant scapegoating, some genuine sovereignty concerns, and a shedload of incompetent MP's who got caught with their knickers down. I voted Remain, as did 60% of London (I lived in West London most of my life, until I went for post grad uni in the US, where I was born (Los Angeles), and then in Sweden, where I live now.) Vast swathes of England felt left behind by the pace of globalisation, and that was easily interlocked with pre-existing xenophobia and racism by the Leave campaigns.

[whathehell]

139. Yes, it's complicated

as it is here.

[eilen]

150. I think the term is "Useful Idiots"

The ones who are easily manipulated into antagonistic bullying mob behavior.

[Celerity]

151. good term, seems to fit nt

[MrsCoffee]

173. They confirmed Russia is helping Bernie.

Not that Russia was trying hurt his campaign or discredit his supporters. Bernie Bros are not Russians or bots. They are following the lead of Bernie’s surrogates who are basically their candidate’s mouthpiece.

[whathehell]

175. I know that

and I know that the original "bros" were American, and many still are.
That said, neither of us knows the "particulars" of Russian interference -- They may well be posing as bros, thinking their tactics ARE helping Bernie.

[MrsCoffee]

182. Whatever excuses one can dream up I guess.

[whathehell]

183. Whatever narrative one needs to.maintain, I guess.

[MrsCoffee]

184. I'm not the one gaslighting here.

I’ve seen and heard the Bros. They weren’t manufactured in Russia. Bernie and his surrogates have been cultivating Bros for over five years now. They are homegrown.

[whathehell]

185. So now I'm being accused of "gaslighting"?

Is that what you do with everyone who disagrees with you, lol?

If so, I'd suggest you acquire a bit more tolerance for different points of view.

Until then, I'll say good bye and good luck.

[William769]

50. "republican or russian plants."

Would not do this to Sanders campaign. If anything they would do it to Biden's.

[yaesu]

58. we will have to agree to disagree on that one. nt

[MrsCoffee]

174. Then you are also disagreeing with our intelligence agencies.

[Celerity]

104. [phone]

[William769]

44. Kick & recommended.

[Firebrand Gary]

46. I hear that Nina Turner is on CNN right, full of passion!

We’ve got to put an end to this, it’s not constructive for our goals. Sadly, Sanders is the only one who can do this.

[SunSeeker]

57. Did you mean passion or poison? nt

[Celerity]

132. he will not do it, he thinks it will ruin his brand

[Firebrand Gary]

141. I just finished Hillary on HULU

All members of the democratic party should demand it. He's a divider, just like Trump.

[we can do it]

171. Poison. Venom. Mean spirit.

[SunSeeker]

56. "There needs to be accountability." Yes there does. Thank you Elizabeth!

[yaesu]

61. and it should be noted that MSM, including MSNBC, had more to do with Warren dropping out than

any other factor because of their circus tabloid news reporting of the election so far. No substance, no equal airtime, just a dog & pony show for profits. This interview is the closest MSM has come to proper election reporting.

[BeyondGeography]

64. Yes, it's ironic to see all this Liz love tonight

and in-depth conversation. Or maybe not that ironic at all. As Joy Reid just said, look at how much people adore Elizabeth Warren now that she is no longer seeking power.

[SunSeeker]

76. Warren got savaged by reporters over how she would pay for M4A, unlike Bernie.

They have pretty much let Bernie off the hook, even though Bernie's plan would cost a lot more than Warren's. She was accused of being "vague" even though Bernie was even more vague. https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2019/09/25/why-elizabeth-warren-is-vague-about-health-care

It was the lopsided scrutiny of Elizabeth on MFA when she was frontrunner that brought her down. Stuff like this: https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2019/10/25/what-the-focus-on-warrens-health-plan-does-and-doesnt-mean-781543

And she never recovered.

[dansolo]

152. They both deserved scrutiny

They both promoted an extremely flawed, ill-conceived plan. He should have gotten as much scrutiny as she did. I thought her biggest mistake was latching on to his plan, instead of coming up with her own.

[SunSeeker]

154. I agree. Her expertise is in consumer financial issues, not healthcare.

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Not sure what Bernie's expertise is in, other than Eugene Debs.

She did not copy his plan, but she flubbed it when she, like him, said people wouldn't have the option of private insurance. He got away with that, she didn't.

[Gothmog]

63. I am glad that Warren is calling out this conduct

I am not surprised that sanders will not deal with his supporters

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

81. Thank you!

Eager for Bernie's comments on this.

[SunSeeker]

85. Elizabeth said she talked to Bernie about the online bullying.

Rachel asked her what Bernie said.

Elizabeth said, "it was a short conversation."

Damn.

[showblue22]

88. Says it all right there.

[betsuni]

89. We can easily guess how that conversation went.

I'm relieved, was worried she might still be giving Bernie the benefit of the doubt.

[dalton99a]

98. +1

[LizBeth]

106. Very good. RIght on. Conversation short. Starts with Sanders. He speaks angry, point fingers at

opponents calling them names being it corporatist, establishment to make it them against us good guys. He creates the animosity. He has staff that goes out there spouting shit and he says nothing. He has endorser that throw out hateful, mean and even vile stuff and he brags about their endorsement. And his people does it and shifts to bots and Russia.

The conversation was short. He didn't own it and no desire to resolve

It is on Sanders. He does not own things. He points the finger and blames everyone else. It doesn't happen with all campaigns, only his and Trumps. There is a reason for that.

[Mrs. Overall]

69. Good for her.

[Maru Kitteh]

78. GOOD. Now if only he would do the same. Convincingly.

I can't recall a single time when he stepped forward, unprompted, to disavow the behaviors we have all seen. It has to be dragged out of him by reporters, anchors or moderators and then it is brushed aside as quickly and dismissively as possible, from what I have seen.

[showblue22]

86. She said she talked to Bernie about it and the conversation was SHORT.

[dalton99a]

100. Transcript:

"And you have a problem with that?"

"Yes, I do."

"OK."

END

[IluvPitties]

87. Hopefully Biden will finish Sanders shortly so that we can focus on Trump.

[emmaverybo]

92. Honestly, I pray for that. No time for divisive drama.

[Thekaspervote]

91. So so happy to hear that! I mean really coffins at a Biden fund raiser

Snake emojis used in posts about her

Terrible homophobic smears against Pete

Sickening

[MustLoveBeagles]

111. Pretty disgusting behavior all around

Now I don't hate Bernie, but it seems nothing was learned from what happened four years ago. In fact, it seems to have gotten worse. As a former Bernie supporter I'm angered and saddened by this. Bernie's response, or should I say nonresponse, to this has disappointed me deeply. I don't hold him responsible for every instance when his supporters or advisors act out, but he is responsible for how he chooses to deal with it. It hasn't been even close to adequate and that is on him. His movement could've been a force for good for this country but, sadly, that opportunity has been squandered. It didn't have to be this way. SMDH

[TDale313]

94. Glad this was addressed.

Glad Rachel asked the question and how some Sanders’ supporters had been particularly nasty about her (brought up the snake emoji thing) Also thought Warren was smart to pivot it away from how she had been treated and to discuss the women in Nevada who had been doxxed after criticizing M4A before the caucus. And she did make it clear that, while all campaigns have some of this and a level of responsibility, there seems to be a serious problem with this within the Sanders camp.

That said, the impression I got listening to her discuss both Biden and Sanders? There’s a genuine warmth and closeness to Sanders I don’t think she had with Biden. Her comments about Biden were measured and positive, but a bit distant. (My impression is he is what he appears to be... a decent man) She got to Bernie, and it was “We’ve been friends for a very long time” I think she’s smart not to endorse right now... but body language and tone... despite a rough campaign.., I think she genuinely likes Bernie.

[cheezmaka]

105. Thank you Senator Warren

The last thing we need is anyone in the Democratic Party acting like Trumps deranged supporters...

[Hekate]

109. She did it very very well, too. And (of course) she has a plan to stop this in the future...

...because it hurts the democratic process.

Anyone who missed her hour with Rachel, make a point of catching it.

[MontanaMama]

112. Here's the thing..,

If Bernie can’t keep his campaign in line, how in the hell could he lead an administration? Short answer...he CAN’T.

[LenaBaby61]

113. "Warren is calling out Sanders' supporters."

4 friends I have used to be very passionate, yet right-minded Bernie supporters. 3 of those friends are now Biden supporters, and one of them is a staunch Bernie supporter. I still meet up with and interact with the 3 Biden supporters. The final friend who used to be a right-minded Bernie supporter now has become a Bernie sycophant. So much so that she's totally segregated herself from the 4 of us, and she's blocked us on twitter as well within the past few years because we won't support Bernie to the point that she does. She's also hooked up with Bernie supporters of her stripe near where she lives and on twitter who are bullies/stalkers/rude/crude to others on twitter as well. Her own daughter told me. The daughter is also extremely worried about her Mom and the amount of monies she sends to support Bernie's campaign for the presidency.

Now into our mid-late 50's, we all used to go shopping together, we were there for her when relatives/her parents/husband passed along the way. We were invited to and enjoyed her daughter's beautiful wedding in 2010. We'd all come together and eat elaborate vegan dishes I'd prepare on many a Saturday night, and we all voted for Hillary in the 2016 GE. But like I said, the past 2.5 or so years, we've noticed that our 'buddy's' was becoming increasingly angry, disagreeable, loud, rude to us, unyielding, always stating that the establishment is destroying this country, and that anyone supporting the criminal Democrat establishment is no better than the GOP We could no longer stomach her bile/rudeness (Or her saying that word Democrat), so the 3 of us cut her from our lives. I sent her a Christmas Card the year before last but heard nothing from her, and up to that point we'd exchanged cards/gifts for various occasions for almost 15 years.

The 3 of us wonder where our 'old' friend went, and if we'll ever see her again.

Probably not.

[MustLoveBeagles]

116. That's sad

I'm so sorry that happened.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

126. That's sad - and so much like the many stories we've heard and situations we've experienced

where family members or friends became members of the Trump personality cult. When it comes to that I guess ideology isn't the issue so much as psychology. What does that cult membership give the member?

[Longford1847]

118. 1st choice Warren now biden

Best chance we have. Can't trust Bernie's instincts

[geardaddy]

161. Welcome to DU!

[ramen]

120. Good, we all should, wherever that nonsense appears, by whomever. nt

[Paka]

124. All I hear about on DU are those "awful Berni Bros."

The irony is that no matter how respectful and polite I try to be I get nothing but hostility in return. If I make the slightest positive comment about Senator Sanders I get slews of nasty replies. I have even been alerted on, although the alert was not upheld. Passion is allowed for all other candidates just not for Bernie.

[writes3000]

127. I know the vast majority of his supporters don't do this. I hate generalizations.

Thank you for your civility.

[Paka]

131. Thank you for that understanding.

We all claim to hate generalizations and then forget when they apply to us. There will always be a few outliers, may civility prevail.

[FreeState]

128. I'm sorry that's happening to you

No one should feel that here.

[Paka]

133. Thank you for your understanding.

I agree. We should all try to remember what the end game is and know that many march to a different drum, but we all look to the same road ahead. Opinions may vary, but it's that variety thats gives us strength.

[geardaddy]

162. Sorry to hear that

I was a Bernie supporter in 2016 and a Warren supporter until she dropped out. I don't like the rancor on both sides of our party either.

[tishaLA]

125. The twitter comments re: the Nina-Hillary Rosen

Dustup on CNN tonight perfectly encapsulate the things Sen Warren and Ms Maddow were talking about.

[FreeState]

129. Twitter is a cesspool

Its like graffiti in a public restroom, it has very little resemblance to what is going on in the real world.

[Firebrand Gary]

130. This is a big deal!

[Laserio]

140. Warren should not endorse nastiness

Biden is more of a uniter.

[obamanut2012]

146. Am betting she isn't endorsing Sanders any time soon now

lulz.

Go Liz!

[Richard58]

156. I know I am going to get shit for this but---

--- I keep hearing people talk about how horrible Sanders supporters are but I haven't seen evidence of it. I'm being serious, I really haven't. (Please, no comments saying, "Are you living under a rock?" I do consume a lot of social media.) I heard people say that Bernie Bros make sexist, racist and homophobic comments to anyone who disagrees with them. Bernie is a progressive. So I would assume that his followers--of which I am one--would have progressive views too. So why would they be making racist, sexist, homophobic comments to people? I don't get it. It kind of goes against what they claim to believe. Could these people be trolls---Russian or otherwise?
I have a number of friends who support Bernie and none of us would dream of ever making such horrible comments. So this whole thing puzzles me. So please explain this to me without name-calling or rock throwing. Thank you.

[reACTIONary]

172. Where I work, there are Bernie bumper stickers...

... on the parking lot, and where I work we don't have folks who would behave like the "BernieBro" stereotype. The only Bernie supporters I've encountered IRL seem like decent folks.

What bothers me is the reports from his rallies of booing "the establishment", including the "Democratic establishment". I've never seen a video, but it sounds like a Trump rally to me.

What is your take on that?

[BillyBobBrilliant]

157. Maybe the phrase sould be

"Don't Bernie Your Bridges."

[DIVINEprividence]

158. Most Bernue supporters are decent folks

a few bad apples as they say.

[zackymilly]

159. Does this mean it's a "No" on Liz being Bernie's VP? n/t

[geardaddy]

160. Good!

[PupCamo]

164. about time someone did

does that make her part of the DNC corporate oligarchy now?

[jimlup]

166. Evidence? Or this just another of colored smear against Bernie??

Yeah, don't bother to answer. I know how I'm voting on Tuesday and I know why.

[Hestia]

167. After the 2016, it was shown that the Bernie Bros were paid Russian trolls, something something Bear

hackers in that building sponsored by the GNU (?).

At this stage, has it been proven that it isn't Russia posting in Bernie's name again?

[warmfeet]

169. I hope we can all come together.

As an Elizabeth Warren supporter (formerly) I hope we can get over our differences. The bigger prize awaits - no more orange asshole, and a possibility of gaining progressive ground.

If Democrats cannot, or will not, come together to defeat this existential threat - well, in future please don't complain about how bad things are on this website. Please take those discussions offline.

There is a great deal of work to do. First and foremost is to remove the current orange rat bastard, I mean potus, from office.

No rats were harmed in the formation of this reply. I happen to love rats (the animals and not the repug's).