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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:38 AM

 

Bernie chose Joe Rogan and Cenk

Rather than attempting any reach out to moderate voters who voted for Obama or Hillary, Bernie chose to try to appeal to people who listen to Joe Rogan and Cenk. Now he's really trying to hug Obama. I think voters will see how disingenuous this is.
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Reply Bernie chose Joe Rogan and Cenk (Original post)
showblue22 Mar 2020 OP
stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #1
DanTex Mar 2020 #2
True Blue American Mar 2020 #3
Codeine Mar 2020 #9
True Blue American Mar 2020 #15
rownesheck Mar 2020 #18
Codeine Mar 2020 #19
Sloumeau Mar 2020 #31
johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #45
lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #54
Crowman2009 Mar 2020 #61
Codeine Mar 2020 #64
PJMcK Mar 2020 #63
grantcart Mar 2020 #48
W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #6
DanTex Mar 2020 #8
LanternWaste Mar 2020 #10
Sloumeau Mar 2020 #38
johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #49
SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #46
grantcart Mar 2020 #59
DanTex Mar 2020 #60
grantcart Mar 2020 #62
W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #69
DanTex Mar 2020 #70
W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #77
ehrnst Mar 2020 #80
Chakaconcarne Mar 2020 #28
W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #68
Sloumeau Mar 2020 #34
lostnfound Mar 2020 #12
DanTex Mar 2020 #14
brooklynite Mar 2020 #17
OnDoutside Mar 2020 #20
DanTex Mar 2020 #21
brooklynite Mar 2020 #24
DanTex Mar 2020 #35
johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #55
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29
awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #51
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #53
greymattermom Mar 2020 #33
DanTex Mar 2020 #36
Sloumeau Mar 2020 #44
DanTex Mar 2020 #52
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #56
Sloumeau Mar 2020 #37
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #26
DanTex Mar 2020 #30
showblue22 Mar 2020 #66
True Blue American Mar 2020 #16
TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #22
DanTex Mar 2020 #23
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25
DanTex Mar 2020 #27
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #32
dlk Mar 2020 #47
DanTex Mar 2020 #50
mcar Mar 2020 #67
Walleye Mar 2020 #4
True Blue American Mar 2020 #5
el_bryanto Mar 2020 #7
TwilightZone Mar 2020 #11
BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #39
McKim Mar 2020 #40
LexVegas Mar 2020 #41
johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #57
cab67 Mar 2020 #43
AGeddy Mar 2020 #42
Cha Mar 2020 #72
Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #58
morillon Mar 2020 #65
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showblue22 Mar 2020 #73
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:40 AM

1. K&R

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:41 AM

2. Yes, because Bernie expands the party.

 

I have no idea why we wouldn't want millions of Joe Rogan listeners to vote for a Dem against Trump in November.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:45 AM

3. Who is Joe Rogan?

 

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:52 AM

9. A roid raging comedian

 

with a podcast focused on weed and mixed martial arts. For some reason lots of simpletons find him entertaining.

See also; virulent transphobe, meathead, homophobe.
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Response to Codeine (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:17 AM

15. No wonder I

 

Never heard of him. Thanks
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Response to Codeine (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:39 AM

18. Wasn't he also

 

the host of Fear Factor, that amazing, intellectually stimulating reality show?
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:40 AM

19. Forgot about that.

 

I’m not gonna deny enjoying that when it first came out. It did grow old fast but it started out fun.
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Response to Codeine (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:59 AM

31. Yep, just how many times can we watch people play with bugs? :) nt

 

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Response to Sloumeau (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:29 AM

45. I listen to his podcast with certain guests: Neil De grass Tyson, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson.

 

It's hit and miss with his guests and takes.
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:37 AM

54. I think he hosted "Ow My Balls!"

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:16 AM

61. He's also a magnet for gamergate incels.

 

I watch YouTube drama way too much. So I knew about this jerk years ago when pricks like Stephan Molyneux and Jordan Peterson were appearing as guests.
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Response to Crowman2009 (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:39 AM

64. Color me unsurprised. nt

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:38 AM

63. His interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson is fairly informative

 

Particularly for Rogan's audience.



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Response to True Blue American (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:31 AM

48. Apparently a favorite among some Sander DUers who posted his endorsement as a major

 

Get a few days ago.

I threw up in my mouth a bit when I saw that.

He disgusts me personally but is jus another Bernie supporter who hates Democrats. Big supporter of Ron Paul and Johnson for Libertarian Party

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:47 AM

6. Because all they do is bring their deplorableness into our party...

 

...and end up not voting for us in November anyway -- fuck 'em.

PS - After all that happened on Super Tuesday, are you *really* still pushing the narrative that Sanders is the one expanding the party? Because in the actual contests that have taken place thus far, *Biden* is the one expanding the party by winning through increased turnout.
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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:50 AM

8. "Fuck 'em" is a horrible voter turnout strategy.

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:54 AM

10. So are banal and witless political bumper stickers.

 

But they still seem to be a popular thing.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:06 AM

38. ROFL

 

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Response to Sloumeau (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:32 AM

49. It would probably be good if people quit disparaging other democrats. Some time in

 

the future people will start talking about luring people in from the fallen candidate. You shouldn't piss each other off too badly.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:30 AM

46. ROFL

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:50 AM

59. We are saying "fuck em" to those like Rogan who hate Democrats but are

 


embraced by Sanders (I) Vermont.

What supports of Sanders (I) Vermont fail to understand is that as long as Sanders (I) Vermont continues to identify in the Senate as an (I) rather than a (D) then he is making the biggest daily "Fuck em" in the history of Presidential politics. Wants to take over the party but Sanders (I) Vermont won't make the smallest consideration for part solidarity.

Just saw Sanders (I) on TV saying that he would have won Super Tuesday if there was a bigger under 30 turnout (which ironically undercuts his claim that he is driving turnout).

Perhaps you should call Sanders (I) and tell him that he should stop denigrating Democrats with a general "Fuck em" message.

If Strom Thurmond and other sitting Senators were able to change party designation then it is a factors that Sanders (I) could have changed but preferred the "fuck em" message to Party leadership, long term Democratic voters and party solidarity.
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Response to grantcart (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:53 AM

60. Yeah, that's not a good strategy if we want Rogan's millions of listeners to vote Dem.

 

There are largely non-ideological, the definition of "swing voters". I have no idea why anyone would not want people like that to vote for the Dem candidate against Trump.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #60)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:23 AM

62. Lol

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:21 PM

69. Did you not just read where I said these people will not turn out for us in November anyway?

 

Hell, they're not even turning out for Sanders now!

If they share Democratic values and value what we value, they will find their way into the party -- they don't need to be "brought in." The only people that are being "brought in" that would otherwise not already join are those disruptive, divisive types that have only sown discord among Democrats for the past few years.

They can stay out. They are not needed. Biden is reassembling a rejuvenated Obama coalition along with the suburban voters that led us to an overwhelming victory in the 2018 midterms. They are who will lead us to victory in November -- not those temporary Democrats that trash us more than they do Trump and the Republicans.
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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #69)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:44 PM

70. "For every blue collar vote we lose, we pick up two in the suburbs".

 

I sure hope that works out better this time than in 2016.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #70)

Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:49 AM

77. We have had an election since then to test the results.

 

Most Sanders-backed candidates were resoundingly repudiated, whereas the types of candidates that he and his supporters spurn are the ones that won us back the House.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:29 PM

80. You mean like saying the votes of Democrats in red states primaries aren't important

 

and who just happen to include a large number of a racial demographic Sanders isn't appealing to, because "that state won't go blue in the GE anyway" kind of dismissal?



Bernie Sanders Cancels Mississippi Rally, Shifting Focus to Michigan


https://www.theroot.com/an-open-letter-to-white-liberals-blaming-low-informatio-1842100419

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:57 AM

28. What the hell?

 

Fuck 'em? We don't need this kind of dialogue here if we wish to stay united.....which I think is our goal.

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Response to Chakaconcarne (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:14 PM

68. Fuck the people that are "bringing in" disunity into our party.

 

If they don't join simply because their values match our values, and instead are only "brought in" by a singular personality and don't really care much about our values otherwise, then fuck them. Those types have caused far more problems for us over the past few years than they have helped us. Give me the suburban mom vote who is upset with the turn our country has taken over the angry internet incel who constantly trashes Democrats and the Democratic Party and threatens to vote for Trump if we don't nominate Sanders.

So, yes, FUCK 'EM.
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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:02 AM

34. I believe that in this case...

 

W_HAMILTON's "f*** 'em" basically means if they aren't going to vote for us in November anyway, We do not need them.

I believe that "f*** 'em" is a more colorful way of saying basically the same thing.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:08 AM

12. Some limits and standards are important. Least common denominator Trump expanded the GOP...

 

Canvassed for Bernie in 2016, donated to his campaign more than any other politician in my life.

But. He isn’t always discerning about his choices of people. He rejects billionaires, fine, but sometimes accepts people that seem hazardous.
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Response to lostnfound (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:14 AM

14. Huh. I keep being told that we need a big tent.

 

I find it highly ironic that people who want to move to the right to attract right-wingers like Jennifer Rubin (I'm not saying you specifically, but definitely a lot of people here are happy with her support), but then Joe Rogan, who has a much larger audience, is off limits.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:32 AM

17. Fair enough, but the results so far say that Bernie IS NOT bringing in new voters...

 

His current claim is: “trust me, I’ll get them for the General Election”.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:45 AM

20. Tbf, what self respecting Democratic candidate would look to expand the tent by including Joe Rogan?

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:49 AM

21. True, but the question is, who will bring new voters in the GE, not the primary.

 

There's really no denying the fact that nominating Biden is trying the same thing as 2016 and expecting different results. A centrist with a stellar resume.

Now, maybe we willl get different results, I hope we do. But Biden voters in the primary consistently say their main objective is defeating Trump. If that's true, they should turn out to vote against Trump in any case.

Bernie does better with young voters, with independents, and with voters who decided based on policy rather than electability. And whether or not Bernie is the nominee, we definitely want those people to turn out. And they are less reliable than the "just get rid of Trump" voters. Which is why, at some point, it would probably be a good idea to stop calling them Bernie Bros and cultists, and instead of telling Joe Rogan and his millions of listeners to go fuck themselves, maybe give them a reason to vote for Dems.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:54 AM

24. We won those voters over in 2018 House races...with moderate candidates.

 

The OUR REVOLUTION and JUSTICE DEMOCRATS had a poor showing...
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:03 AM

35. I hope you're right.

 

Because if you're wrong, and Trump wins again, I'm afraid that 2024 will be too late to learn the lesson that "safe" centrists like we ran in 2000, 2004, and 2016 is not actually a "safe" strategy. If we lose, the court will be 6-3 or even 7-2, and the rest of the judiciary will be full of crazy right-wing teenagers. And Trump will become even more unhinged since he doesn't have to face another election.

There are things that are different than in 2016 for sure, and the primary turnout is indeed encouraging. I hope all that, and people having witnessed how bad Trump actually is, is enough.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:38 AM

55. Are AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar considered moderates.

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:57 AM

29. Can't afford Sanders "trust me". He's had a fair chances to show bring out chops and hasn't

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:33 AM

51. We've heard Bernard's stuff before

 

-Amazing ground operation!
-We have knocked on one billion doors!!
-Candidate for the young generation!!

Exit polls:

18-29: 13%

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:36 AM

53. +1, and his "I haven't seen those numbers" responses to these facts last night on Rachael was subpar

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:00 AM

33. Bernie does better with groups who don't vote.

 

For me, that's a big problem. Joe seems like a normal, not crazy person. I think that's the main thing we need now. Also, Joe knows who to hire. He knows most of the candidates already.
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Response to greymattermom (Reply #33)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

36. The flip side is, Biden does better with people that are already going to vote D.

 

We'll see. I hope everyone else is right that Biden is the best candidate, because we need to beat Trump.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:28 AM

44. But DanTex, here is what you have to remember...

 

One of the things that killed us in 2016 was the Black voters who showed up in 2008 and 2012 for Obama but did not show up for Hillary in 2016. However, this year, Black voters seem to see Biden as Obama continued. This is why they are showing up for Biden--because Biden did everything he could for eight years to see that Obama's initiatives were passed. No person on this planet worked harder to help Barack Obama's Presidency than Joe Biden. Black people know this, and Super Tuesday showed us that they know this.

Someone posted a video, yesterday I think, with Joy Reid of MSNBC talking about how, when Joe Biden was in the church where the Civil Rights march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge started, that this was Joe Biden's church. They treated Joe Biden like he was Barack in that church because he represented Barack to them. Joy Reid was in that church when Joe Biden was there, and she said when she saw how Joe Biden was treated there, she knew that he would sweep the South. All of the major Democratic candidates were there in Selma that day except Bernie Sanders--who for some reason did not show up.

Joe Biden would have walked through fire for Barack Obama. Obama knows it, Jim Clyburn knows it, and practically every Black person in America knows it. This is why we are going to beat Trump in November, because for decades as a U.S. Senator, Joe Biden worked to help the 21% of the population of Delaware that is Black, and for eight years he worked to help Barack Obama. Joe Biden will make sure that Black Americans show up in November because to them, Joe Biden is not some promise that may or may not come true. To them, Joe Biden is the guy, year after year, who has fought for Black America.

Finally, for Joe Biden, the single most important part of his campaign since it began has been built around three words: "Black Votes Matter". This is why the pundits for months called South Carolina "Joe Biden's Firewall". It was the hill that Joe Biden would live or die on. It was the hill that he spent his entire lifetime getting ready for.
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Response to Sloumeau (Reply #44)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:33 AM

52. Fair points, I hope you are right.

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:39 AM

56. There's NO reason for the people who were NOT going to vote D to sit out voting for Sanders NOW

 

... I'm not getting this "wait till the GE" for the new people position, it doesn't make since relative to out current voting laws.

A lot of those "new" people Sanders can bring out NOW but is not
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

37. Bernie makes big promises about new voters,

 

but he couldn't even bring out the young people to vote for him on Super Tuesday. However, the voters came out big for Joe Biden, especially the older Voters. College Bob did not show up and vote for Bernie. Grandpa Bob did show up and voted for Joe Biden.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:55 AM

26. We do and can win have a big tent without assholes and racist if Russia isn't involved.

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:58 AM

30. Russia will be involved, that's the problem.

 

If the tent is big enough for Jennifer Rubin, I don't see why it shouldn't be big enough for Joe Rogan. After all Joe Rogan is far more influential. And he's not a right-winger like Rubin, he's basically non-ideological.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:30 PM

66. It's about decency.

 

After Trump, people crave decency. Embracing Joe Rogan does not bring calm and decency to our nation, and frankly a lot of people really want that.
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Response to lostnfound (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:20 AM

16. Calling Warren

 

A snake is not inducive to being friends.

Calling voters the establishment does not work either. Espcially when you have been in Congress 30 years.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:08 AM

13. They're not going to vote for a Dem because of Rogan.

 

There's nothing saying Rogan is even going to vote for Bernie. I kinda think, maybe, I might possibly vote for Bernie. Probably. Yeah, solid endorsement there.

He's just screwing with people, which is kind of his thing. Some see through it. Some don't.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:49 AM

22. To people who don't vote as consistently as older people.

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:51 AM

23. And independents. And Joe Rogan listeners.

 

Exactly the kind of people who might turn out to vote for Dems, but might not.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:54 AM

25. We have to go on facts, Sanders "bring out" chops are mostly talk. Biden got nearly 1 mil more votes

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:56 AM

27. More votes in the primary. The general election is a different story.

 

The main fact is that we tried running a centrist with an impeccable resume in 2016, and we got Trump. Trying the same thing and expecting different results...
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Response to DanTex (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:00 AM

32. No its not, He's not doing what Obama did in 08 and that's the measure he needs to make that claim

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:31 AM

47. Would this be the party Bernie refuses to join?

 

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Response to dlk (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:32 AM

50. That's the one, yes.

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:35 PM

67. How is that working out for him?

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:45 AM

4. I think some are addicted to anger and resentment

 

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Response to Walleye (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:47 AM

5. I quit watching Cenk

 

Long ago. He is just a rabble rouser.
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Response to Walleye (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:48 AM

7. Yeah i've noticed that too. nt

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:07 AM

11. At least Cenk got demolished in his primary - he got 5%.

 

So, there is that.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:11 AM

39. I like Joe Rogan. He does reach a lot of younger people

 

with his podcast, my son listens often.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:13 AM

40. I am not aware that this is a crime!

 

I am not aware that this is a crime. I wish we could give this a rest! The Democratic Party is going to need progressive votes. Better to spend time incorporating some of Warren/Sanders idea into the platform.
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Response to McKim (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:14 AM

41. Progressive ideas like voting against the Brady Bill?

 

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:43 AM

57. No more ideas like medicare for all, increased taxes on the wealthy and corporations,

 

and student debt solutions.
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Response to McKim (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:19 AM

43. It's not a matter of reaching out to progressive voters.

 

It's a matter of reaching out to Democrats. All of them.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:16 AM

42. 10 days ago, Bernie chose freaking Castro

 


That's what changed the momentum.
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Response to AGeddy (Reply #42)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:47 PM

72. Yes.. Castro, too.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:47 AM

58. You know it is disingenuous because you read minds?

 

There is no way for you to know if it is or isn't disingenuous unless you were his best friend from high school and talk to him every day.

Bernie was on with Rachel last night so does that qualify as reaching out to moderate voters?

And don't you think it would be useful to get voters from every possible niche?
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:47 AM

65. He'd need to reach out to liberals/progressives, too

 

I'm not a moderate by any stretch of the imagination, despite having voted for moderates any number of times because I thought they were the best choice at that time to further goals that were important to me.

I voted for him in 2016. But the stuff that went on after that, particularly at the convention, really put me off. I'm still not over it, to be honest. The bully stuff then and now, the my way or the highway, us against them...nah. I don't care how liberal or progressive someone is -- if that's their go-to for dealing with people who disagree, I'm gonna be a nope.

On most things, I'm not much swayed by endorsements or spokesmodels or whatever. But when it comes to Democratic politics, John Lewis is a bellwether for me. He's practically a deity where I live. Although Biden is my third choice, the fact that John Lewis supports him makes me even more certain that voting for him is the right choice.

If Sanders wins the nomination this time, I'll vote for him, no question, but I hope he realizes he's got more than moderates and conservatives to make comfortable with his candidacy.

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:47 PM

71. & BS did Not go to Selma with the other people

 

to honor John Lewis and those who Marched on Bloody Sunday March 7, 1965.
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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:00 PM

73. It just proves what is important to him.

 

White working class. He said so many times in 2016 it was only after 2016 that he dropped the word white. People pay attention, they do.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #73)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:02 PM

74. Yeah.. a rally in California where he was what?.. 20% ahead?

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #74)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:10 PM

75. Exactly!

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #75)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:47 PM

76. No excuses.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2020, 11:59 AM

78. Joe Rogan is "Goop" for the testosterone crowd

 

Constantly plugging questionable snake oil products... fountain of youth supplements and workouts...


https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/joe-rogan-bernie-sanders-and-politics-controversial-endorsement

Imagine the howls of laughter from Sanders supporters if Gwyneth Paltrow was to endorse Joe Biden...
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #78)

Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:02 PM

79. Lol!

 

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