Bernie Sanders' truly awful answer on his newfound millionaire status

Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:10 PM

madaboutharry (36,898 posts)

1. Let's face this fact: Sanders is not a very likable person.

He has an awful personality and I think it will be a big factor once the debates start. The negativity of the Trump era has worn Americans down. Honestly, there are a number of other candidates that bring a lot more optimism and positivity to the race. Sanders has had a pretty good life. I wonder why he is such a crabby guy. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:55 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

42. Um, that's a matter of opinion,

not 'fact' I'm afraid. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #42)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:02 PM

madaboutharry (36,898 posts)

44. He is cantankerous and has a sharp tongue.

I don't really see it as an opinion. It would be hard to say that Sanders is warm and fuzzy. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:08 PM

DoctorJoJo (1,134 posts)

48. I Guess Since He's Going On 78, Some Accept His Acerbic Personality--I Don't!

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to DoctorJoJo (Reply #48)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:44 PM

Cheap_Trick (3,918 posts)

91. And some accept Joe Biden's handsy personality. I don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Cheap_Trick (Reply #91)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 03:42 AM

fleabiscuit (4,488 posts)

176. He's no different. nt

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Response to Cheap_Trick (Reply #91)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:53 PM

Eliot Rosewater (27,748 posts)

207. So you wont vote for Joe in the election?

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to DoctorJoJo (Reply #48)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:33 AM

Hortensis (49,275 posts)

189. :) His personality is over seven decades old also. I don't either.

He dismisses most people with contempt. Worst of all, aside from counting us in gross numerical terms, I doubt he sees much difference at all between people like me and those who admire him. The unkindest cut of many! If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #189)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:53 PM

Eliot Rosewater (27,748 posts)

208. He is well known for this in the Senate the way someone in the R party is also

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #208)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:42 PM

Hortensis (49,275 posts)

211. I've read some of those stories,

and each time they've made me long for the ones they tell each other. There must be some real doozies. I'm remembering the video of Sanders, incredibly, knocking 80s-year-old Senator Feinstein aside as he pushed past her on the floor of the senate even though there was plenty of room -- and of her swatting at his back in response. I am laughing remembering his astonishing boorishness, and thank goodness he didn't knock her down, but my goodness! As far as some are concerned, I really think he could knock Feinstein down "in the middle of Fifth Avenue" and he wouldn't lose any of those voters. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:10 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

50. Many are like that, at times -- That doesn't mean it comprises

his entire personality. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #50)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:27 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

65. Why was that an 'awful' answer? Oh, Bernie bias.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to onit2day (Reply #65)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:35 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

73. Huh?...You got the wrong poster, dude

I never called anything an "awful answer". If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #65)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:50 AM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,279 posts)

202. It's not... Bernie is literally and figuratively "right on the money," as usual!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! Welcome to the revolution!!! If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #202)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:02 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

210. He may be

but he is far more tone deaf than right. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:25 AM

we can do it (9,915 posts)

179. It's apparent to most people.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to we can do it (Reply #179)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:02 AM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

182. Not to his (many) supporters

it seems. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:04 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

46. Nonsense. That's not a fact. People who know him love him I resent your

unfounded characterization. He's not "crabby" except to the lying vultures in the repub party. He's extremely dedicated doing town halls for years on a national radio where you could call in and ask questions. Your "opinions" are not facts and imagine if You were to see Sanders answer like Hillary why He was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak at republican functions and wall street banker's get togethers. "That's just how much they were willing to pay" yet refuse to release transcripts to the public. blah blah blah... You see how stupid my comment was by this strawman innuendo. Maybe it will serve as an example so you will refrain posting such innuendos yourself, like you know Sanders well enough to say "he's crabby". Are you a Russian troll joining those here with Bernie derangement syndrome or what? Never fails, mention Bernie at DU and the Hillary people who resent him for running against her flood the boards with hateful comments. I love Bernie. I voted for Hillary. Some respect please. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:02 PM

madaboutharry (36,898 posts)

100. I am not a Russian troll, LOL!

I have been on DU from nearly the beginning and have almost 30,000 posts. I think Bernie has some issues with his personality. I saw him at the very beginning of the 2016 campaign in a high school auditorium and after an excellent speech, he was rather rude to the people who tried to talk to him. If he is the nominee I will of course vote for him. I don't have to think he is a nice guy. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #100)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:14 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

106. I have my good eye on you.

I’ve known you were working with the Russians since my first day here. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #106)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 03:18 PM

Hortensis (49,275 posts)

212. I don't even mind him not being a nice guy as

long as he was a competent one and that his goals are restricted to what he claims they are. I don't believe he is or that they are. I believe his contempt for what mainstream Democrats say they want suggests he's significantly more extreme than the public would support or than it would be safe for him to admit. His proposal to actually make it illegal for people to offer or obtain health insurance through work is just one confirmation of my notions. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:57 PM

Madtown (39 posts)

132. This

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:46 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

163. It's a "Fact" for many of us. BS is

Too Divisive. You need to look in the mirror before you start hurling Insults at other DUers because they don't like BS. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:53 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

164. How Dare you Ask "madaboutharry" if she's a "Russian Troll"..

just because she doesn't like BS. You know what?.. you're a terrible advocate for him. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:41 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

190. Projection?

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:08 PM

namahage (1,157 posts)

217. You earn respect. It is not just given.

And calling other DUers Russian trolls with “Bernie Derangement Syndrome” do themselves, and their candidate, no favors. Gandhi’s quote about Christ and Christians comes to mind. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:42 PM

still_one (81,036 posts)

218. David Sirota, Nina Turner, and Briahna Joy Gray. All who voted for Jill Stein, and encouraged

others to do likewise, and all appointed to high positions in the Sanders campaign If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #46)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 04:01 PM

lapucelle (13,156 posts)

227. BS was pretty crabby to the reporter who asked him about his status as a millionaire one percenter.

Is she a Republican vulture? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:14 PM

CentralMass (11,834 posts)

53. Having witnessed him speak with 20,000 other supporters with another 8 000 in

An overflow area at the Moda Center in Portland, Oregon back in 2016, I can tell you first hand you are very wrong. Bernie is liked by millions. His style, however you care to characterize is an asset. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:46 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

175. I don't care how many you witnessed. BS

is too Divisive. She's speaking from her perspective and she speaks for many of us. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:36 PM

Cheap_Trick (3,918 posts)

74. Neither was Hillary

So what? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Cheap_Trick (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:45 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

174. Yes, she is. BS is too Divisive.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:48 PM

apcalc (4,274 posts)

94. Agree. Who in Congress works with him?

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:15 PM

LakeArenal (20,020 posts)

108. That's a matter of opinion. Mine.

I agree. No one dislikes his message. Now we have (also my opinion)so many “nicer” folks to make the message better. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:56 PM

Thekaspervote (22,579 posts)

131. Couldn't have said it better!! Thx

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 03:37 PM

JonLP24 (28,305 posts)

225. He looks like a crabby guy

But I have totally different view on his personality he is very likable and it is based on substance. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:10 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

2. A bit of a funny part about it.

Without Clinton he wouldn't have a best selling book. "I wrote a best-selling book. If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too." That's awesome. On many levels. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:15 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

3. It is the hypocrisy

He attacked others for speaking fees and book royalties. It was not ok then. Now it is suddenly perfectly fine. From the article: She would have been pilloried! People would have blasted Clinton for being out of touch with the average person who, obvi, doesn't have the opportunity to write a book -- best-selling or not. Telling the average middle-class American that they too can be rich if they only write a best-selling book is like telling them that if they would just star in a movie then they could be a big star, too. Yes, it's true. No, for almost everyone, it's not realistic. That is so right on the money! If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:28 PM

progressoid (46,462 posts)

8. I could be mistaken but

I don't remember him attacking others for book royalties. Clearly he did attack others (Hillary et. al.) for speaking to Goldman Sachs. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:32 PM

bahrbearian (13,466 posts)

11. Private speech's, which the public cannot be allowed to hear.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to bahrbearian (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:00 PM

luvtheGWN (1,226 posts)

99. Yes, bah, they WERE private speeches,

paid for by the companies that engaged her to speak to them. Those companies didn't expect the speeches THEY paid for to be made public, nor should they have. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #99)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 08:25 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

141. It is lost on some people

If an artist gives a private concert, the entity that pays for the concert owns all rights. Same with speeches. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:33 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

12. Yes, set himself up as mr perfect..

"Pull yourself up by your book royalties" If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:49 PM

crazytown (7,277 posts)

16. "Pull yourself up by your book straps"

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to crazytown (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:26 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

64. "Pull yourself up by your book flaps.."

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:04 PM

dalton99a (64,507 posts)

27. Pretty sure the millionaire saint declined to partake in the GOP tax heist,

as a sign of solidarity with the proletariat If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:36 PM

progressoid (46,462 posts)

34. "We know we've got to attack poverty by making sure the economy works for everybody. "

"I want us to raise the national minimum wage, because people who live in poverty should not - who work full-time should not still be in poverty." "Help the poor, like how you would want to be helped if you were in their position." Are saying these things being "Mr Perfect"? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:33 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

68. His book doesn't change his ideology. It encourages it. What is wrong with U

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Response to onit2day (Reply #68)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:34 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

71. Backatcha "what is wrong with you?"

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:10 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

104. "What is wrong with you"

That was great. You and I had a pretty aggressive debate over a certain topic and you still reply to me kindly and I hope I do the same. I greatly appreciate your posts and can’t imagine going “what is wrong with you.” I will say that is a sign that someone does have a personality issue. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #104)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:06 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

168. Oh yeah.. I agree!

I remember what that was about and I appreciated your civility, too. I know sometimes I can get mad when reading posts but I try real hard not to insult people. Not cool. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:01 PM

Lefta Dissenter (6,433 posts)

134. Cha...

is obviously another Russian troll, playing the long game. The really, REALLY long game... If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Reply #134)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:13 AM

Cha (272,482 posts)

170. Obviously!

For those who need it. I've seen of couple of those accusations in the last 2 days.. Simply because their candidate isn't "liked" by others. Good way to be an advocate Mahalo, Lefta Dissenter If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:50 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

192. No fair!! You used full words! And punctuation!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:34 PM

TCJ70 (4,387 posts)

70. You keep sharing that like it's a negative or something...

...but it falls apart when you stop to think that his policies would likely have a negative financial effect on himself. That’s not a strike against him. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #70)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:36 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

76. BS can drop

haranguing on "millionaires" now. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #76)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:38 PM

TCJ70 (4,387 posts)

79. Why? Why would his financial status...

...which we don’t exactly know yet, as a millionaire discredit any of his statements about wealth/income inequality? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #79)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:16 AM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

186. His financial status

is incongruent with his rhetoric. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #186)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:01 AM

TCJ70 (4,387 posts)

194. Its absolutely not. N/t

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:56 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (24,615 posts)

19. You are not mistaken. And they know it.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:33 PM

George II (66,247 posts)

32. He never got into how millionaires and billionaires got there, just that they were....

....millionaires and billionaires. And curiously toward the end of 2016 he conspicuously dropped the "millionaire" part of his criticism. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:58 PM

thesquanderer (11,040 posts)

43. If he's willing to raise taxes on himself, it's not hypocrisy. (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:15 PM

George II (66,247 posts)

55. How do we know he's willing to raise taxes on himself? That's precisely why Americans....

....demand that we see his and every other candidate's tax returns. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Reply #55)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:11 PM

thesquanderer (11,040 posts)

105. non sequitur

Seeing his tax returns tells us nothing about whether he's willing to raise taxes on himself. He should absolutely release his tax returns. But even before he releases his tax returns, we know he's become a millionaire, he's said so. He never promised he would never make a million dollars. But he has always put forth that people who do should be paying higher taxes. Unless he changes that position, and no longer proposes and/or votes for tax plans that raise the taxes on people who make a million dollars, there's no hypocrisy. Sanders has never said it was wrong to make money. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:01 AM

revmclaren (1,817 posts)

167. Bookmarked (U)

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:29 AM

we can do it (9,915 posts)

181. This exactly. It deserves its own thread.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:19 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

6. Yeah, did he thank Hillary?

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:38 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

82. Yes he did by campaigning for her more than any other elected official

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Response to onit2day (Reply #82)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:49 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

147. This is highly inaccurate.

That is the most polite way I can put it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #82)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:30 PM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

158. What?

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:30 PM

redstateblues (10,489 posts)

9. Why can't poor people just write a best selling book?

Bernie’s solution to income inequality? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:02 PM

dalton99a (64,507 posts)

25. +1

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:33 PM

Lucky Luciano (10,367 posts)

67. I think he is being a little sarcastic with that comment. nt

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:40 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

87. Never said that and never said it was poor people's solution to income inequality

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:46 PM

UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)

124. Why didn't he donate all the money? Redistribute the wealth. nt

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #124)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:07 AM

dubyadiprecession (4,385 posts)

205. You could say BS is one wealthy socialist!

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:46 AM

Lazy Daisy (928 posts)

162. You mean like J K Rowling?

There are many ways out of poverty. Most require a stroke of luck to go along with the hard work otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. Nothing wrong with Bernie's response. He's very popular, he wrote a book, people bought it. Poof, he's made a good amount of money off it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:44 PM

Politicub (12,006 posts)

90. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, kids!"

"And you, too, can be a millionaire. Just like me." Insulting. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:15 PM

redstateblues (10,489 posts)

4. I guess it makes you grumpy to be a 1%er

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:41 PM

LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)

154. Is it Bernie one of the Millionaires He Complained About When....

"We're not going to let the United States continue to have one of the highest rates of childhood poverty in the industrialized world in - at a time when we're seeing a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires." - Bernie Sanders "If jazz education in our colleges were free to all it would provide thousands of good jobs in the music industry which has been taken over by corrupt millionaires and billionaires." - Bernie Sanders "We don't need to drive up the national debt by giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires." - Bernie Sanders "I do believe that billionaires and multi-millionaires should be paying more in taxes." - Bernie Sanders So....Bernie, what about now? You're a millionaire now so you're going to fix all of this right now, right? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:16 PM

Cha (272,482 posts)

5. "Pull yourself up by your

book royalties". I just saw that on twitter. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:56 PM

PADemD (4,482 posts)

20. Book straps, like this?

Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship, and Purpose https://www.amazon.com/Promise-Me-Dad-Hardship-Purpose/dp/1250171679/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3MIQYV4P6DOLW&keywords=joe+biden+book+promise+me+dad&qid=1554925947&s=gateway&sprefix=joe+biden&sr=8-1 If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to PADemD (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:37 PM

BannonsLiver (13,184 posts)

35. Probably a better read than anything Bernie has written.

Especially if his repetitive, dull stump speeches are any indication. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:04 PM

PADemD (4,482 posts)

135. Not that I'll ever find out.

I wouldn’t waste my time or money. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #139)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:33 AM

Tipperary (6,930 posts)

183. Lol, good one!

I see what you did there. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:28 PM

Stuart G (32,052 posts)

7. This is not the smartest answer? "If you write a best selling book,.."

Sanders retorted: "I wrote a best-selling book. If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too." He should have kept his mouth SHUT .... WELL............................................................................................................. ....is there someone out there who also needs to keep his mouth SHUT? you tell me.................................................................................... If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:49 PM

onit2day (1,201 posts)

95. His answer wasn't awful or serious and of no consequence. Only those with

Bernie derangement syndrome are taking issue with it. That's what's wrong with this whole post. But of course you will vote for Bernie if he becomes our candidate right? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to onit2day (Reply #95)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 08:33 PM

Stuart G (32,052 posts)

142. I will vote for our nominee. Yes, if Bernie is our candidate, I will vote for him.

I have voted for every democratic candidate since 1968. And no, I do not have Bernie derangement syndrome I do not think he will win the presidential election. That is really what this is about. Bernie must win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Bernie won't win Texas. He also must win Colorado and Michigan. I believe Bernie is not our strongest candidate to win those states. What about Arizona?. Can he win that? Arizona and Nevada are not Vermont. ... It is going to be a very tough election. Anything can happen. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to onit2day (Reply #95)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:44 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

191. "Bernie derangement syndrome"

Nice try. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:14 PM

thesquanderer (11,040 posts)

107. I thought it was funny. But I have a New York sense of humor. (n/t)

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:58 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

193. Is that why he's changed his criticism of "millionaires" to "billionaire class?"

And is it OK now that the Clintons made millions off book sales? Or are they still "suspect" by many because they made a whole lot more millions from their books? Can someone catch me up? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:32 PM

LAS14 (11,920 posts)

10. 1 million or multi-millions doesn't make you a 1 percenter. And I don't see the answer as awful. n

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:54 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

18. His annual income has been at one percent status for a couple of years.

That will be clear if he releases his taxes. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:39 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

37. Big deal...He's in his late 70's and, unlike a few others in the party,

this is his first time. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:44 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

39. Apparently the other poster thinks it means something.

They are the one who brought it up. There was a first time for everyone reaching the one percent annual earnings mark. I'm not sure why you are responding as you are. I wasn't the one who posted incorrect information. Sanders is a one percenter. I agree with you. Big deal. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #39)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:53 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

41. The intent of your post wasn't clear to me,

I guess, sorry if I misread yours. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:58 PM

Maven (10,533 posts)

22. Uh, what now? Multi-millions doesn't make you a 1 percenter?

"To be among the top 1 percent of U.S. earners, a family needs an income of $421,926, a new report from the Economic Policy Institute finds." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/how-much-you-have-to-earn-to-be-in-the-top-1percent-in-every-us-state.html If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Maven (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:31 PM

LAS14 (11,920 posts)

31. 8 point something for wealth is required. Two or three or five million doesn't get you there. nt

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 PM

namahage (1,157 posts)

150. And where did you get that number?

Me, I think I’ll take this agency’s word for it: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/18taxstatscard.pdf If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to namahage (Reply #150)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:06 AM

LAS14 (11,920 posts)

195. Underline mine

"The Times had estimated the threshold for being in the top 1 percent in household income at about $380,000, 7.5 times median household income, using census data from 2008 through 2010. But for net worth, the 1 percent threshold for net worth in the Fed data was nearly $8.4 million, or 69 times the median household’s net holdings of $121,000." https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/17/measuring-the-top-1-by-wealth-not-income/ If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Maven (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:31 PM

George II (66,247 posts)

120. So he's been a "1%-er" for two years going on three?

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:34 PM

Kahuna7 (2,531 posts)

13. Surely Bernie is going to redistribute that wealth, right?

He hasn't??? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:49 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

15. Of course he has not

But he wants other rich people to do so. "Do as I say, not as I do" is a classic example of hypocrisy. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:26 PM

Kahuna7 (2,531 posts)

30. I'm going to tweet that question to him.

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:42 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

38. "Of course" you know nothing of what he has done or will do

with his money, but never mind. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:00 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

148. Over a half a million dollar lake front vacation home.

Lake Champlain, I believe. If I write a best selling book I can have one too. Maybe he will be transparent with his finances and we will know more soon. I’m pretty sure the household hit one percent status some time ago. They are holding out to get just past Jane Sanders cash out at what once was a University in Burlington. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #148)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:25 AM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

161. He's not entitled to this?

After a lifetime of public service, he writes a a best selling book, and this means he's NOT entitled to a vacation home for himself and his family? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #161)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:08 AM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

178. Yes, he's entitled.

Well said. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to whathehell (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:27 AM

Kahuna7 (2,531 posts)

180. That's why I was asking. Because I don't know...

But never mind... If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:47 PM

Gothmog (103,084 posts)

233. I want to see if sanders has made any charitable donations

Link to tweet ?s=20 If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:43 PM

LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)

155. Waiting On That...

Think it will be a LONG wait.... If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:38 PM

melman (7,681 posts)

14. .

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to melman (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:00 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (24,615 posts)

23. Lol

More of the same If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:53 PM

Maven (10,533 posts)

17. Goddammit. Now I have to agree with Cilizza on something?

Ugh. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:00 PM

aikoaiko (31,951 posts)

24. At least the book and the contents are available to everyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:04 PM

happybird (2,871 posts)

26. Noticed yesterday that the wording isn't very firm

"We wanted to release 10 years of tax returns. April 15, 2019, will be the 10th year, so I think you will see them." Why not just say, "we'll be releasing 10 years of returns on April 15?" Maybe I'm too cynical, maybe that's just the way he talks, but I won't be holding my breath for those returns come tax day. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:11 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

28. You're exactly right

There is likely to be a new excuse on Monday or some stunt of showing only a couple of pages of each return. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:12 PM

stonecutter357 (12,245 posts)

29. BS the millionaire !

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:35 PM

murielm99 (28,333 posts)

33. I THINK you will see them????

Uh huh. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:38 PM

jalan48 (12,302 posts)

36. When he starts giving speeches for half a million dollars a pop to big Wall Street banks like

Goldman Sachs I'll get concerned. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:46 PM

whathehell (26,260 posts)

40. Exactly,

He clearly hasn't spent his life chasing money, but oh well. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:03 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (24,615 posts)

45. The same people raised questions about why wasn't he more wealthy.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:05 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

47. What about Old Towne Media, LLC?

https://vtdigger.org/2016/07/15/sanders-campaign-millions-go-to-mystery-firm/ If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:46 PM

jalan48 (12,302 posts)

111. Meh, chicken feed. He can make tens of millions giving "speeches" to big corps and banks.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:27 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

116. lol

Banks and corporations are not going to have him lecture them. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #116)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:49 PM

jalan48 (12,302 posts)

127. Ya think?

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Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:49 PM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

129. He wants to nationalize them

I doubt they would want him lecturing If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #116)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:57 AM

Lazy Daisy (928 posts)

165. Ding Ding Ding

Think you stepped in it there. Banks & Corps only want to hear from people who can and will do something FOR THEM. Bernie's policies aren't going to make them any money, therefore why pay him to tell them that? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:38 AM

KitSileya (4,035 posts)

173. Besides, he's a sitting Senator, so it would be ILLEGAL to pay him to speak

How law-abiding of them to refuse to pay him to speak when it would violate the law to do so. That certainly wouldn't make them any money, would it? It's too bad, because I am sure they, like the rest of us, would like to know exactly how Senator Sanders plans to break up the banks. He didn't have an answer to that in 2016, but perhaps he's found a way in the intervening three years? He must have done something to keep him too busy to deal with the sex harassment charges from his 2016 campaign. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #173)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:55 PM

betsuni (18,025 posts)

209. +1

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Lazy Daisy (Reply #165)

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:22 AM

BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)

187. You are wrong

Banks and corporations want to hear from people who have interesting speeches that their employees are enlightened by, people who make eloquent speeches which are informative. A yelling curmudgeon with scissor hands who talks about destroying them and has nothing interesting to say except one stump speech is not at the top of their list. It sort of works like this -- a KKK grand wizard is never invited to speak to the NAACP. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #111)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:02 AM

lapucelle (13,156 posts)

220. How could BS earn money making speeches? Politicians who are still in office are prohibited.

It was a smart money move to cash in quickly by working hard on that book in the summer - autumn of 2016. I don't think any of the other books in his series have done as well. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #220)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 11:29 AM

jalan48 (12,302 posts)

221. Good point. Bernie should be sucking up to the big banks and corps now so that he can make those

six figure speaking fees when he retires. Or, maybe even a nice spot in a K Street lobbying firm with a nice fat salary to go with it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #221)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 01:54 PM

lapucelle (13,156 posts)

222. No need. The folks at Lockheed Martin are already familiar

With his work. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #222)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:21 PM

sheshe2 (74,222 posts)

223. +++

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #223)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 03:13 PM

lapucelle (13,156 posts)

224. Or infomercials: Anyone Can Be a Millionaire! (just write a bestselling book)

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden