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Sun Mar 1, 2020, 05:46 PM

 

I now have serious concerns about Sanders' intentions..

Up until today I disagreed with the man’s methods but brushed them off. This latest “existential threat” crap has me seriously considering if this man has good intentions or if he’s just an agent of chaos sent to divide the Democratic Party.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Reply I now have serious concerns about Sanders' intentions.. (Original post)
Moderateguy Mar 2020 OP
Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #1
Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #2
geralmar Mar 2020 #12
ploppy Mar 2020 #3
betsuni Mar 2020 #4
Indykatie Mar 2020 #5
DanTex Mar 2020 #6
sheshe2 Mar 2020 #7
ehrnst Mar 2020 #9
showblue22 Mar 2020 #8
ehrnst Mar 2020 #10
comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #11

Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 05:49 PM

1. I share your concern.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 05:55 PM

2. If you're my age (66),

 

Bernie is that guy who organized walkouts at your high school that only a few people responded to. He is the guy who stood in the quad with a bullhorn ranting about the "establishment" while you were trying to eat your lunch and talk to your girlfriend.

Then he stepped up the game in college.

Then he graduated and turned pro.
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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:26 PM

3. Well said

 

Mr. Bill.
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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:57 PM

4. He has been very clear: "This campaign has never been just about electing a president --

 

as enormously important as that is. This campaign is about transforming America."

The original existential threat quote from last year about Bernie: "He has made it his mission to either get the nomination or to remake the party in his image as a democratic socialist. That is an existential threat to the future of the Democratic Party for the next generation." The Third Way Democrats think Bernie as the nominee would alienate crucial voting blocs, losing to Trump. If he isn't the nominee, he'll continue his movement against the party because as he said again today -- he thinks they're corrupt corporatists ignoring the working and middle class.

He really got mad at Third Way when they praised Elizabeth Warren and Politico did an article, "Centrists are coming around to Elizabeth Warren as an alternative to Bernie Sanders." Everybody knows Warren is progressive. Yet again he had to try to make it sound like he's the only true progressive and his positions are unique to him: "The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly 'anybody but Bernie.' They know our progressive agenda of Medicare for All, breaking up the big banks, taking on drug companies and raising wages is the real threat to the billionaire class."

His opinions are based on incorrect information, he likes disruption and division and negativity. His intentions are bad.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:00 PM

5. Bernie and His Advisors Are Out To Get Control of the Dem Party

 

similar to the way the far right took over the GOP. It must not happen.
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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:01 PM

6. His intentions are to fight for working people the way he has

 

his entire career. It’s not complicated or mysterious. The simple fact is that we have given too much ground to the wealthy and to corporations and Bernie wants to take that ground back.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:04 PM

7. Why was he not in Selma today?

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:32 PM

9. So do I. But I expect a career politician to have have more to show for it than "intentions"

 

book sales at WalMart and on Amazon.

The simple fact is that Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton lapped him on consumer advocacy and free healthcare before they were even in elected office.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:

In July 2010, Congress passed the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, during the 111th United States Congress in response to the Late-2000s recession and financial crisis. The agency was originally proposed in 2007 by then Harvard Law School professor and current US senator Elizabeth Warren.


What comparable achievements does Sanders have that compares to the CFPB or Dodd-Frank?

CHIP got free health care to 8 million uninsured low income children. What's the number of people that Bernie has gotten coverage for - other than his family, and the people he hires?

In 2007, Kennedy told the Associated Press that Hillary Clinton played a critical role in CHIP.

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue," Kennedy said.

Nick Littlefield, a senior health adviser to Kennedy at the time, agreed.

"She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions," Littlefield told the Associated Press. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."
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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:18 PM

8. Well, there is this

 

Quote: Americans across the spectrum were united in outrage and in seeking their safe return. Sanders, at the time, was a backer of an obscure Marxist-Leninist political party that pledged support for the Iranian theocracy and defended the hostage-taking"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/10/bernie-sanders-radical-past-donald-trump-attack-fodder-column/4706779002/
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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:33 PM

10. Definitely something to be thinking about. (nt)

 

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Response to Moderateguy (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:49 PM

11. Yes, I've felt that way for a long time now.

 

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