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Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:04 AM

evertonfc (1,713 posts)

If this person was at the invite of Sanders at Seattle rally

She just wrote an ad for the GOP and she needs to be called out by our party. We are so doomed if radicals are given speaking spots. Outragous..

.."we need a powerful socialist movement to end all capitalist oppression and exploitation.”

- Radical Socialist and BernieSanders surrogate, Kshama Sawant of the Seattle City Counsel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If this person was at the invite of Sanders at Seattle rally (Original post)	evertonfc	Feb 2020	OP
you're fine with exploitation?	Blues Heron	Feb 2020	#1
She was allowed to stand at the podium and speak	Rorey	Feb 2020	#2
Other candidates are campaigning...so what?	Magoo48	Feb 2020	#4
I see you support Senator Warren	Rorey	Feb 2020	#7
I respect your POV.	Magoo48	Feb 2020	#14
Except that she wasn't just attending	Rorey	Feb 2020	#15
Right? Isn't she the $15 an hour council woman? How on earth could Democrats	MisterFred	Feb 2020	#6
I'm looking at the whole package	Rorey	Feb 2020	#8
You sound like the people who complained they thought Clinton's voice sounded shrill	MisterFred	Feb 2020	#18
I sure don't have any idea what you're trying to say	Rorey	Feb 2020	#20
You're saying you just don't like Sawant for nebulous personal reasons.	MisterFred	Feb 2020	#21
Just let it go. So someone disagrees with you.	LakeArenal	Feb 2020	#31
You are SO right	Ferryboat	Feb 2020	#29
Yes. And somehow she's being attacked by Democrats. Unreal.	DanTex	Feb 2020	#11
That'll help us a lot in those swing states that decide the general election.	Squinch	Feb 2020	#3
Yes, and it's unfortunate that some don't get that	Rorey	Feb 2020	#9
Not long ago, similar folks hawked newspapers on the subway	C_U_L8R	Feb 2020	#5
Thx for posting that	Rorey	Feb 2020	#10
Come on...	Mad cow	Feb 2020	#12
How is their message different in any way?	C_U_L8R	Feb 2020	#13
Well, for one, the paper is from American Communists	Mad cow	Feb 2020	#16
So why isn't Sanders a Democrat?	C_U_L8R	Feb 2020	#17
Paul Robeson and WEB DuBois were great men.	David__77	Feb 2020	#19
I see your post was copied directly from disgraced Biden operative Lindy Li	melman	Feb 2020	#22
That's not Lindy Li speaking at the podium.	George II	Feb 2020	#23
Show me where I said it was	melman	Feb 2020	#24
This discussion is about the woman speaking at the podium. You bringing up Lindy Li....	George II	Feb 2020	#27
This will make you feel better: straight from local TV	brooklynite	Feb 2020	#25
What's your point?	melman	Feb 2020	#26
My point is that too many people complain about the source when the facts are inconvenient	brooklynite	Feb 2020	#28
The facts are inconvenient?	melman	Feb 2020	#30

Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:05 AM

Blues Heron (4,638 posts)

1. you're fine with exploitation?

not me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:07 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

2. She was allowed to stand at the podium and speak

That pretty much says it all for me too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Rorey (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:16 AM

Magoo48 (3,723 posts)

4. Other candidates are campaigning...so what?

What is your candidate proposing to help poor, and working families, and homeless people stabilize their lives that really fires you up?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:46 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

7. I see you support Senator Warren

So do I, and if she somehow, through some miracle, gets the nomination, I will be full on board and will work my ass off to help get her elected. I would be ecstatic to see her get elected, and I honestly think she would pummel Orangeface.

Bernie Sanders? I'll tell ya, people like this speaker, and also some on this forum, are really pushing me away. I'll freely admit that I've never been a fan, and I will absolutely dread it if he gets the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Rorey (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:17 AM

Magoo48 (3,723 posts)

14. I respect your POV.

I simply feel we get too focused on picking the fly shit outta the pepper here sometimes. There are probably people attending every candidate’s events who do not represent that candidate’s positions exactly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:24 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

15. Except that she wasn't just attending

I want someone on our side to get elected who can get things done. What I see about Sanders is that he seems to have the "I alone can fix this" attitude that somebody else spouted. I am not at all saying that I disagree with all of his ideas. But talk, is cheap. It's the implementation of those ideas that matters. I just don't consider Sanders to be a team player, and if we're going to take our country back from the Repukes, we need to be on a strong team. Divisive rhetoric isn't going to accomplish that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Rorey (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:33 AM

MisterFred (525 posts)

6. Right? Isn't she the $15 an hour council woman? How on earth could Democrats

ever support someone who likes raising the minimum wage. /sarcasm =D

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Response to MisterFred (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:48 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

8. I'm looking at the whole package

I don't like it. That doesn't mean that I dislike some aspects of it. But as a whole, this person turns me OFF. If you want your guy to get elected, that should be important to you, because a whole lot of people think as I do. You need their votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Rorey (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:30 PM

MisterFred (525 posts)

18. You sound like the people who complained they thought Clinton's voice sounded shrill

And that was some bullshit.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to MisterFred (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:39 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

20. I sure don't have any idea what you're trying to say

I campaigned hard for Hillary.

I have never considered her voice to sound "shrill".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Rorey (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

MisterFred (525 posts)

21. You're saying you just don't like Sawant for nebulous personal reasons.

Just like those ridiculous Clinton detractors did.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to MisterFred (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 02:01 PM

LakeArenal (25,326 posts)

31. Just let it go. So someone disagrees with you.

That is what happens when people post stuff. Relentlessness is a trait that turns a lot of people off and impacts who they may support.

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Response to Rorey (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:56 PM

Ferryboat (796 posts)

29. You are SO right

Sawant is way over the top. Turns off many liberals and progressives in the Seattle metro area. Is an easy target for rethugs to focus on. Will give her credit for $15 minimum wage. Other of her ideas, not so much.

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Response to MisterFred (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:54 AM

DanTex (20,709 posts)

11. Yes. And somehow she's being attacked by Democrats. Unreal.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:08 AM

Squinch (46,506 posts)

3. That'll help us a lot in those swing states that decide the general election.

(Yes, OF COURSE I am being sarcastic.)

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Squinch (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:53 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

9. Yes, and it's unfortunate that some don't get that

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:20 AM

C_U_L8R (43,302 posts)

5. Not long ago, similar folks hawked newspapers on the subway

adorned in conspiracy laden sandwich boards.

Didn't sell so well then either.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:54 AM

Rorey (8,024 posts)

10. Thx for posting that

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:02 AM

Mad cow (92 posts)

12. Come on...

A Marxist publication is what you equate with this?

How does everyone feel about the birth of the labor movement (in a swing state, I might add)? I'm glad to get Saturday and Sunday off because of some people who went against capitalist oppression.

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Response to Mad cow (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:08 AM

C_U_L8R (43,302 posts)

13. How is their message different in any way?

This is the OP's quote...
"we need a powerful socialist movement to end all capitalist oppression and exploitation.”

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:53 AM

Mad cow (92 posts)

16. Well, for one, the paper is from American Communists

For another, she ran for office and worked within the system to produce results for people. I'm not arguing that her words aren't a liability, but if you strip off her self proclaimed label, her ideas aren't that radical and she isn't a communist.

The conclusion of that article, in caps, is "DON'T VOTE. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME ANYWAY." That's a far cry from working within the system to bring about change.

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Response to Mad cow (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:56 AM

C_U_L8R (43,302 posts)

17. So why isn't Sanders a Democrat?

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:59 PM

David__77 (21,448 posts)

19. Paul Robeson and WEB DuBois were great men.

And they advocated for socialism.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:36 PM

melman (7,681 posts)

22. I see your post was copied directly from disgraced Biden operative Lindy Li

Link to tweet

lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/biden-surrogate-forced-to-resign-from-democratic-group-over-doctored-bernie-sanders-video/ar-BB106pLK?ocid=st

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/inside-bernie-biden-twitter-troll-war-lyndi-li?mbid=social_twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=vf&utm_social-type=owned

"Bill Kristol retweeted Li’s tweet to his more than 591,000 followers. (“I was so excited, I called my Dad,” Li said."

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Response to melman (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:41 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

23. That's not Lindy Li speaking at the podium.

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Response to George II (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:43 PM

melman (7,681 posts)

24. Show me where I said it was

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Response to melman (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:52 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

27. This discussion is about the woman speaking at the podium. You bringing up Lindy Li....

....is a deflection from the discussion.

Now back to the OP.

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to melman (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:46 PM

brooklynite (84,527 posts)

25. This will make you feel better: straight from local TV

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:50 PM

melman (7,681 posts)

26. What's your point?

Did I dispute Kshama Sawant's appearance at the rally? No. I did not.

And I feel fine, thanks!

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Response to melman (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:54 PM

brooklynite (84,527 posts)

28. My point is that too many people complain about the source when the facts are inconvenient

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:57 PM

melman (7,681 posts)

30. The facts are inconvenient?

Not to me they're not. Not everyone buys into the framing that says this woman is scary and bad.

And I wasn't complaining about the source. I was loling at Lindy Li.

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