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Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:25 PM

 

Bernie speaks on immigration in Iowa.





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Sen. Bernie Sanders campaigns in Oskaloosa, IA: "If you open the borders, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world. And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it."
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RandySF Apr 7 OP
lapucelle Apr 7 #1
sheshe2 Apr 7 #2
lapucelle Apr 7 #4
sheshe2 Apr 7 #5
Skidmore Apr 7 #3
lapucelle Apr 7 #6
Skidmore Apr 7 #9
namahage Apr 8 #35
NurseJackie Apr 7 #7
Demsrule86 Apr 7 #31
TCJ70 Apr 7 #8
RandySF Apr 7 #15
TCJ70 Apr 7 #16
Hoyt Apr 7 #10
ehrnst Apr 7 #11
JI7 Apr 7 #12
TCJ70 Apr 7 #13
ehrnst Apr 7 #19
Cha Apr 7 #20
sheshe2 Apr 7 #25
BlueFlorida Apr 7 #23
lapucelle Apr 7 #24
SidDithers Apr 7 #26
lapucelle Apr 7 #29
mcar Apr 7 #32
BlueFlorida Apr 7 #14
ehrnst Apr 7 #21
BlueFlorida Apr 7 #22
DesertRat Apr 7 #17
WeekiWater Apr 7 #18
SidDithers Apr 7 #27
WhiskeyGrinder Apr 7 #28
mcar Apr 7 #30
marylandblue Apr 7 #33
TexasTowelie Apr 8 #34
betsuni Apr 8 #36
Alien Symphony Apr 8 #37
octoberlib Apr 8 #38

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:37 PM

1. So the false narrative that Democrats favor "open borders" has apparently taken root.

 

I don't like that the people of any single state wield so much power in determining our nominee.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:44 PM

2. Follow the twitter link. nt

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:02 PM

4. The Hill...

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:02 PM

5. ...

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:48 PM

3. There you have it.

 

Who is worthy enough for Sanders to be allowed to be an immigrant? Pandering To Trumpers is no allowed on these topics.
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Response to Skidmore (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:04 PM

6. It is a pretty cold, dispassionate response.

 

He should have stopped at "I favor comprehensive immigration reform."
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:42 PM

9. You would think.

 

SMH. It's either tone deaf or intentional.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:15 AM

35. Like he does at his rallies.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-iowa-2020-rally-speech-transcript-2019-3

Today, we say to the American people that instead of demonizing the undocumented immigrants in this country, we're going to pass comprehensive immigration reform and provide a path toward citizenship. We're going to provide legal status to the 1.8 million young people eligible for the DACA program, and develop a humane border policy for those who seek asylum. No more snatching babies from the arms of their mothers.


When forced off his canned stump speeches he tends to blunder. Perhaps he will fare better against a Fox News audience on April 15--or, at least, that is what his supporters will say regardless of the outcome.
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:14 PM

7. Things like this solidify my opposition to him as our nominee...

 

Things like this solidify my opposition to him as our nominee. I imagine I'm not the only one.

This "open border" shit... insinuating that that's what Democrats support... these are RW talking points he's spouting here, right?

What good purpose does it serve for anyone to try and equate Democrats with Republicans?
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:21 PM

31. Me too. What a horrible thing to say.

 

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:54 PM

15. I think his answer is pretty clear.

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:50 PM

10. Sanders' views on trade, tariffs, and immigration are just too close to

 

that of the current Prez for me.
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:51 PM

11. Dayummmm....

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:54 PM

12. the guy asking the question seemed to be repeating right wing bs

 

claiming people support open borders and people coming here are all going to get welfare.

I see that shit all over the internet from ignorant asses.


when the fact is most people coming here are looking for work and do work. if they agree undocumented they are actually paying more into the system than they can get back.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:59 PM

13. Yeah...I hope people watch the video rather than just knee-jerk...

 

...react to this. Who am I kidding? The usual suspects already have.

The guys question is a combination of two familiar RW tricks:
1. Anything involving “open borders”
2. And “how do you pay for it?”

“How do you pay for it” isn’t always part of the propaganda because funding matters. It is in this guy’s case, though.
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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:59 PM

19. "Usual suspects"

 

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:00 PM

20. Look in the mirror before you accuse

 

anyone of being a "usual suspect".
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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:34 PM

25. ;)

 

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:23 PM

23. For the benefit of doubt

 

I'll take it that by "usual suspects" you mean people who are unfairly accused without evidence just because who they happen to be.

Am I right?
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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:25 PM

24. I watched the video.

 

It's relatively easy to say

Democrats like me do not support open borders. We support comprehensive immigration reform. Here's my plan for getting that done..."

It's a shame that we didn't get it done in 2007.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:50 PM

26. Bernie would never, ever say "Democrats like me"...nt

 

Sid
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:00 PM

29. That's why BS spoke for himself and himself alone.

 

"Not US...ME"

It's not as if there might be a strategic advantage in letting Iowans continue to believe the myth that Democrats in general are advocating for open borders...

If only we had someone in charge of outreach to set the record straight...



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:23 PM

32. Or, no Democrat running for office...

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:29 PM

14. Lack of empathy is striking

 

There are many ways in which that response could have been crafted .... but the way it was delivered showed zero empathy.

Sanders' policies are all about his ideology and he never addresses the suffering of the minorities.
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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:01 PM

21. The demographics of Vermont....

 

The racial diversity among the population residing in the state of Vermont is currently at 94.7% Caucasian, 1.9% two or more races, 1.5% Asian, 1.2% African American, .4% other races, and .3% Natives of North America.


http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/vermont-population/

There's not much of a need for a Vermont politician to address those issues to be re-elected.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:20 PM

22. That explains it perfectly n/t

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:59 PM

17. Wow nt

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:03 PM

18. "When I voted against a pathway to citizenship..."

 

“I was really voting against...”
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:51 PM

27. Chasing the economically anxious white working class vote...nt

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:55 PM

28. So revolution. Much progressive.

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:21 PM

30. Umm, who said anything about open borders?

 

Oh that's right, it's what Republicans say Democrats want. What is Bernie playing at here?
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:10 PM

33. He said he is not in favor of open borders. He did not evade the question.

 

Democrats can't ignore immigration as a key issue this time around.
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 12:47 AM

34. Jay Peak, EB-5 Visas.

 

Bernie didn't have any problems with the immigrants willing to pay up to a half million dollars to invest in the Jay Peak resort in Vermont to obtain EB-5 visas. I guess that some immigrants are better than others?
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:12 AM

36. The country is full?

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:34 AM

37. Thank you

 

Bernie is the man.

He's so cool!
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:57 AM

38. Wow, so Bernie is parroting Trump

 

with the “America is full” bullshit, pandering to racists. This is why Elizabeth Warren is the far superior candidate. She’s excellent on policy and the legislative pathways to get them passed.
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