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phandancer917

(145 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:54 PM Feb 2020

Still LOVE Mayor Pete....but I switched Tuesday

Sen. Warren was always my 2nd choice, but her performance Tuesday night (ESPECIALLY calling Bloomberg out on his NDA bullshit!!!!) moved her into the Number 1 Spot on my Election playlist.

She would OWN Trump in debates!

Election Avatar Reset and Warren is now my Candidate!


Lastly -- I do not understand how any woman (or any human) could support Bloomberg after his responses to the NDAs. I want to defeat Trump, but do not want to hold my nose as I do....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Still LOVE Mayor Pete....but I switched Tuesday (Original Post) phandancer917 Feb 2020 OP
I already caucused in Iowa, and it was a "heart vs. head" thing for me, bullwinkle428 Feb 2020 #1
Warren/Buttigieg 2020 jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #18
The only barrier we should worry about is the intelligence/ethics barrier grantcart Feb 2020 #26
THANKS! jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #36
Warren/Buttigieg would be my DREAM ticket! Mountain Mule Feb 2020 #41
In 2028 President Buttigieg is sworn in age 46. denem Feb 2020 #44
Personally, I like the idea of a Warren/Castro ticket hangaleft Feb 2020 #46
Pete was second. Warren is now my second. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #2
Good luck. defacto7 Feb 2020 #3
So is Pete! phandancer917 Feb 2020 #4
Look up James Buchanan! defacto7 Feb 2020 #6
Eh? Wednesdays Feb 2020 #49
I'd better read up but that's not what I've read. defacto7 Feb 2020 #50
Hillary owned Trump in the 2016 debates but... Kaleva Feb 2020 #5
Yes, but not like Senator Warren did last night Tweedy Feb 2020 #21
Sounds reasonable to me. Kaleva Feb 2020 #23
And he would not stalk Liz around the stage for long. ms liberty Feb 2020 #29
She was better than Trump but she failed to relax and let the country grantcart Feb 2020 #28
No Puppet. YOU'RE the puppet! (Most stellar reply in debate history). maddiemom Feb 2020 #35
I do not understand how any woman (or any human) could support Trump after his responses IronLionZion Feb 2020 #7
It is amazing. Some women love to be disrespected apparently or at least don't mind it?? Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #19
Some chickens would vote for Colonel Sanders if they got some sweet tax cuts IronLionZion Feb 2020 #25
💯Truth. joost5 Feb 2020 #34
That's a great quote! I do marvel at Drumpf's female supporters who know he views them as Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #39
She's Ingersollman Feb 2020 #8
I have the same feeling. Her performance last night KPN Feb 2020 #42
A lady just called in to radio show marlakay Feb 2020 #9
Welcome to the persistence MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #10
Congratulations not fooled Feb 2020 #11
Fair enough. Laelth Feb 2020 #12
Elizabeth was once my first and still a strong second mvd Feb 2020 #13
No way does Trump participate in a debate during the 2020 campaign... SidDithers Feb 2020 #14
Ditto. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #15
Exactly. No matter who the contender is. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #27
Then we should get that "he is a coward" and really get it going on social media kimbutgar Feb 2020 #40
Exactly. He will come up with a defense though -- another KPN Feb 2020 #43
early voted today for Liz! Scalded Nun Feb 2020 #16
Most exciting vote ever. EveDibb Feb 2020 #17
Voting Warren n NC, too. blm Feb 2020 #32
Good for you! Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #52
Trump will never debate her. I doubt he'll debate anyone. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #20
When I heard Bloomberg, I heard Trump's echo packman Feb 2020 #22
Not to long ago he was also Drumpf's friend. Crowman2009 Feb 2020 #33
She killed it last night LittleGirl Feb 2020 #24
She handled Bloomberg last night and she can handle Trump. zackymilly Feb 2020 #30
been a fan LittleGirl Feb 2020 #47
I got off the fence and chose Warren, too. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #31
How Women Could Support Bloomberg? JGug1 Feb 2020 #37
I just donated money to her today kimbutgar Feb 2020 #38
Warren and Buttigieg are so much better than the others AngelicaHora Feb 2020 #45
Depending on what happens in South Carolina and Nevada musicblind Feb 2020 #48
Great point on his answer to the NDAs Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #51
yahooooo, welcome aboard saidsimplesimon Feb 2020 #53
It's time for a few in the moderate "lane" to drop out lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #54
You don't understand how any women could support Bloomberg. There were quite a few who supported still_one Feb 2020 #55
Yes -- I cannot explain that either. phandancer917 Feb 2020 #56
same here still_one Feb 2020 #57
 

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
1. I already caucused in Iowa, and it was a "heart vs. head" thing for me,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:00 PM
Feb 2020

as the same two candidates were at the top of my list. Attended both of their town halls in my area the weekend prior to the caucus, and that made the choice even more difficult, as they both came off so well. Ended up going with Pete in the end, and maybe it was a case of me "playing pundit".

I was still totally thrilled with what Elizabeth did last night, and want to see her in this race for a LONG time, to give the maximum number of voters the opportunity to cast a vote for her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
18. Warren/Buttigieg 2020
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:33 PM
Feb 2020

Let's break a couple of barriers, shall we?

And, hello, fellow Iowa resident. I moved to Iowa City about three years ago, and am enjoying everything but the weather.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
26. The only barrier we should worry about is the intelligence/ethics barrier
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

To focus on any other aspect of a Presidential candidate doesn't enhance them but diminishes them.

For that reason I would absolutely rejoice over a Warren/Buttigieg ticket.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
41. Warren/Buttigieg would be my DREAM ticket!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
44. In 2028 President Buttigieg is sworn in age 46.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:05 PM
Feb 2020

That works.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
46. Personally, I like the idea of a Warren/Castro ticket
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:02 PM
Feb 2020

But Warren/Buttigieg sounds pretty damn good, too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jimfields33

(15,774 posts)
2. Pete was second. Warren is now my second.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
3. Good luck.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:09 PM
Feb 2020

Elizabeth is great!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phandancer917

(145 posts)
4. So is Pete!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020

I really, really like his attitude and poise. However, I have to admit that the President's job rides on the shoulders of other people. Mayor Pete simply does not have the network of knowledgeable people...YET.

This guy WILL win this office someday and if he DOES win this time -- he will adapt and do an amazing job!

Plus -- need some class to polish up the image of the 1st Spouse.

Kind of cool that is either of my top candidates win -- we will have the first - First Gentlemen!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. Look up James Buchanan!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

His live in companion was called First Gentleman by the WH staff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
49. Eh?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

William Rufus King died in 1853, four years before Buchanan was inaugurated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
50. I'd better read up but that's not what I've read.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

The name of his partner wasn't mentiond as I recall but I do remember the person who moved into the WH with him being called First Gentlman by the staff with discretion. I'll check it out. Thanks

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
5. Hillary owned Trump in the 2016 debates but...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
21. Yes, but not like Senator Warren did last night
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020

And Mayor Bloomberg is a self-made billionaire who is not a sadist, which earns him my vote should he somehow recover from last night.

Why?

Because the current occupant is a sadist, a sexual abuser, a thin skinned complaint manufacturing machine, an unindicted co-conspirator and a serial bankrupt, who walks, talks and acts like a confidence trickster.

Senator Warren will eat the GOP's "alternative facts" for lunch and breath righteous fire 🔥 full of verifiable FACTS back.

And she will bait & bait & bait the narcissistic president into debating her.
What's he going to say? No, I'm scared of the woman? Bawhahaha!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
23. Sounds reasonable to me.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
29. And he would not stalk Liz around the stage for long.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

I've always thought Hillary was too nice to him when ithat happened. It was creepy; I wanted to deck him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
28. She was better than Trump but she failed to relax and let the country
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

See her wonderful creative intellect and great sense

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
35. No Puppet. YOU'RE the puppet! (Most stellar reply in debate history).
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
7. I do not understand how any woman (or any human) could support Trump after his responses
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:57 PM
Feb 2020

There is a lot about voters that many of us will never understand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
19. It is amazing. Some women love to be disrespected apparently or at least don't mind it??
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
25. Some chickens would vote for Colonel Sanders if they got some sweet tax cuts
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020
“You can't keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbors. You know, eventually those snakes are going to turn on whoever has them in the backyard.”

― Hillary Rodham Clinton
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
39. That's a great quote! I do marvel at Drumpf's female supporters who know he views them as
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

objects; either grab-able or to mock. And they seem fine with that??

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Ingersollman

(204 posts)
8. She's
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:57 PM
Feb 2020

going to do it! Stick with her. I voted for her yesterday. It was one of the most satisfying votes I have ever cast, knowing how well prepared she is, and how ready for the job she is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

KPN

(15,642 posts)
42. I have the same feeling. Her performance last night
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020

will put her front and center in this race as it was last fall. Elizabeth is far from done and may just go all the way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
9. A lady just called in to radio show
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:04 PM
Feb 2020

on SiriusXM and said she was from Tennessee and that they have early voting. She was planning on voting for Biden, wasn’t going to watch debate but wanted to check out Bloomberg before she voted.

She ended up calling Elizabeth’s campaign and donating money and going to vote for her. She thinks she has the fight we need to take on Trump along with being smart yet compassionate.

She sounded my age 60’s and I am thinking Liz must have won over a lot last night.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
10. Welcome to the persistence
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

President Warren will get it done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
11. Congratulations
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

Agree with the positive comments about Mayor B's temperament and future, but Elizabeth has the knowledge and experience to do the job now. She's not afraid and cares about helping the most people, which will show the Grand Canyon divide between her and red don.

And, she would shred him in debates, or at arm's length through the media if he refuses to debate her in person.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. Fair enough.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:08 PM
Feb 2020

I will be happy with either of them.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mvd

(65,173 posts)
13. Elizabeth was once my first and still a strong second
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:10 PM
Feb 2020

She got a Black Lives Matter endorsement today that was important. It will be interesting to see how her debate affected her polling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
14. No way does Trump participate in a debate during the 2020 campaign...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020

He'll make excuses, claiming he doesn't need to debate a challenger.

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
27. Exactly. No matter who the contender is. n/t
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
40. Then we should get that "he is a coward" and really get it going on social media
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

I know he’s shameless but we can chop off his balls by calling him a coward for not debating his opponent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,642 posts)
43. Exactly. He will come up with a defense though -- another
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020

bone spurs for the cowardly narcissist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
16. early voted today for Liz!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

EveDibb

(34 posts)
17. Most exciting vote ever.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:31 PM
Feb 2020

Just voted for Elizabeth Warren today in Ohio.

My daughter voted for Warren.

Next week on super Tuesday I get to take my 80 year old mother to vote for Warren in North Carolina.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,043 posts)
32. Voting Warren n NC, too.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
52. Good for you!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

We need to get everyone out to vote who can. Great that you are going all the way to NC to do it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Trump will never debate her. I doubt he'll debate anyone.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:39 PM
Feb 2020

He's a fucking idiot, but he's not that stupid. He knows she'd tear his arms off and beat him over the head with them, like she did wiyh Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. When I heard Bloomberg, I heard Trump's echo
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020

- Disrespect
- Evasion
- Hiding tax returns and "promising" to release them
- Saying his tax returns were too complicated for immediate review or scrutiny


This guy wears the same cloth as Trump,- not my choice

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Crowman2009

(2,494 posts)
33. Not to long ago he was also Drumpf's friend.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
24. She killed it last night
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

I am wavering again. I can wait until Super Tuesday and decide for sure by then.
I wish we all could vote at once and do elimination votes again before November.
This scattered primary is crazy stupid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
30. She handled Bloomberg last night and she can handle Trump.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:05 PM
Feb 2020

I'm starting to like Warren more and more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
47. been a fan
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020

for a decade. When Jon Stewart interviewed her on the Daily Show in 2008 or 09, I was so impressed. I wished she had run instead of Hillary.
So when she announced, I followed. But I'm wavering because she did so poorly in NH and Iowa.
I hope she comes on stronger now and I can vote with confidence for her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
31. I got off the fence and chose Warren, too.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JGug1

(320 posts)
37. How Women Could Support Bloomberg?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:28 PM
Feb 2020

How can you possibly say that after the numbers of women who supported and STILL support Trump. Bloomberg's baggage is heavy but NO ONE has accused him of sexual assault. Not quite so for Trump. Yet, he still has a ton of support from the MAGA women.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
38. I just donated money to her today
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

Last night I saw she is the one who could really kick MF45’s ass in a debate and make him lose it on stage.

Go Warren!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AngelicaHora

(54 posts)
45. Warren and Buttigieg are so much better than the others
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:25 PM
Feb 2020

They've got the detailed plans, the temperament, the wit, the charm. It kills me to see these three old men topping all the polls. We're sabotaging ourselves as a party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
48. Depending on what happens in South Carolina and Nevada
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:56 AM
Feb 2020

as well as what the polls look like for my state on Super Tuesday, I'm thinking if switching to Warren or Buttigieg.

I still really like Biden and hope he can pull out that win in SC so I can vote for him and feel like I'm picking the person who can best beat Trump.

But if he loses both badly and doesn't stand a chance in my home state, I'll probably switch to the next closest candidate that does stand a chance who I also think can beat Trump.

I guess that's a long post to get to the point of saying I'm starting to consider Pete after his debate performance last night, and Warren, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
51. Great point on his answer to the NDAs
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

Showed he hasn't learned a thing, on that topic or any other. He still has that same mentality, which would be a big loser come eletcion day whe we need the votes of women disgusted with drumpf.

Welcome to the persistence!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
54. It's time for a few in the moderate "lane" to drop out
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

Pete, Joe, Amy, and Mike (and even Elizabeth) need to have a meeting and flip coins or whatever to decide the single candidate to carry the flag forward.

Otherwise they will watch the delegate majority go to the one candidate that cannot possibly win in November.

Even if that majority of delegate isn't enough to put someone in nomination in the first ballot, it will tear up the party if the nomination goes to someone else by appealing to the super delegates.

And if he gets the nomination, we will lose the Senate, lose the House, and give Trump a landslide (electorally speaking).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,138 posts)
55. You don't understand how any women could support Bloomberg. There were quite a few who supported
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:26 PM
Feb 2020

Trump

Why?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phandancer917

(145 posts)
56. Yes -- I cannot explain that either.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020

nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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