
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:34 PM
evertonfc (1,713 posts)
New Quinnipiac state poll released minutes ago
Trump up by 7-11 points agianst all D's in Wisconsin. All D's up in PA by a few but Biden does best. All D's up 3-5 in Michigan. Nate Cohn thinks WI may not be competitive anymore
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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evertonfc | Feb 2020 | OP |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #1 | |
evertonfc | Feb 2020 | #2 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #14 | |
33taw | Feb 2020 | #3 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #5 | |
Kaleva | Feb 2020 | #50 | |
jimfields33 | Feb 2020 | #53 | |
33taw | Feb 2020 | #54 | |
jimfields33 | Feb 2020 | #55 | |
kimbutgar | Feb 2020 | #61 | |
33taw | Feb 2020 | #63 | |
CalFione | Feb 2020 | #4 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #6 | |
The Revolution | Feb 2020 | #37 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #40 | |
thesquanderer | Feb 2020 | #43 | |
videohead5 | Feb 2020 | #7 | |
JCMach1 | Feb 2020 | #25 | |
honest.abe | Feb 2020 | #8 | |
KPN | Feb 2020 | #12 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #64 | |
KPN | Feb 2020 | #66 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #67 | |
StevieM | Feb 2020 | #17 | |
honest.abe | Feb 2020 | #22 | |
StevieM | Feb 2020 | #24 | |
honest.abe | Feb 2020 | #26 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #65 | |
StevieM | Feb 2020 | #68 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #70 | |
musicblind | Feb 2020 | #51 | |
turbinetree | Feb 2020 | #9 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #15 | |
turbinetree | Feb 2020 | #18 | |
TwilightZone | Feb 2020 | #29 | |
SDANation | Feb 2020 | #30 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #39 | |
Meadowoak | Feb 2020 | #56 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #72 | |
Recursion | Feb 2020 | #10 | |
StevieM | Feb 2020 | #20 | |
honest.abe | Feb 2020 | #23 | |
Recursion | Feb 2020 | #27 | |
honest.abe | Feb 2020 | #28 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2020 | #45 | |
KPN | Feb 2020 | #11 | |
videohead5 | Feb 2020 | #13 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #16 | |
videohead5 | Feb 2020 | #19 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #38 | |
mahina | Feb 2020 | #21 | |
SDANation | Feb 2020 | #31 | |
videohead5 | Feb 2020 | #33 | |
Jirel | Feb 2020 | #32 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #34 | |
BlueWI | Feb 2020 | #59 | |
nobuddy | Feb 2020 | #62 | |
BlueWI | Feb 2020 | #71 | |
ibegurpard | Feb 2020 | #35 | |
Awsi Dooger | Feb 2020 | #48 | |
corbettkroehler | Feb 2020 | #36 | |
Name removed | Feb 2020 | #42 | |
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ancianita | Feb 2020 | #41 | |
Name removed | Feb 2020 | #47 | |
ancianita | Feb 2020 | #49 | |
BlueWI | Feb 2020 | #60 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2020 | #44 | |
Celerity | Feb 2020 | #58 | |
Nanjeanne | Feb 2020 | #52 | |
jcmaine72 | Feb 2020 | #57 | |
tritsofme | Feb 2020 | #69 |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:35 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
1. Trump up by 7-11 point
against all D's in Wisconsin. That's rather odd.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
evertonfc (1,713 posts)
2. I couldn't post it but you can find it
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Reply #2)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
14. Thanks, I'll look for it
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
33taw (2,305 posts)
3. It is competitive, Walker go beat. Too bad none of the candidates come to WI.
It would help. They wasted so much time in Iowa courting people who routinely vote red. Trump routinely comes to rural WI blowing off his big mouth.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 33taw (Reply #3)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:39 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
5. I agree
Wisconsin has a lot of potential. Candidates need to go there. I remember a lot of strong liberal and pro union voices in Wisconsin during the Walker years.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 33taw (Reply #3)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:19 PM
Kaleva (33,315 posts)
50. Bloomberg is advertising heavily in Wi.
"If you're a Wisconsin voter, you can be excused if you think former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is the only Democrat running for president."
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/01/31/michael-bloomberg-ad-barrage-continues/4625580002/ ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 33taw (Reply #3)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:59 PM
jimfields33 (12,120 posts)
53. Iowa Voted blue in 2008 and 2012.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to jimfields33 (Reply #53)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:11 PM
33taw (2,305 posts)
54. True. I was looking at 2016, their Governor, and Senators. All republican in Iowa.
WI has replaced their Governor, SOS, Treasurer, and AG with Democrats in 2018. WI also has both a republican and democratic Senator. The most recent senate race was in 2018 and went for Baldwin by the 6% points even after multiple attacks by republicans. Writing them off is foolish. I believe this shows a pattern of trending back to blue. We would be foolish to listen to a poll.
There has been too much manipulation of data and results for me to trust any poll. I think too much effort is put into Iowa. Just not enough bang for the buck at the cost of other places we could for us on including:WI, VA, NC, GA, AZ and MI. IMO. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 33taw (Reply #54)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:17 PM
jimfields33 (12,120 posts)
55. All good points.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 33taw (Reply #54)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:15 PM
kimbutgar (18,153 posts)
61. The poll sounds overweighted by Repukes and isn't the state getting hit by MF45 tariffs?
No this is a poll meant to discourage Democratic turnout. Total BS!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to kimbutgar (Reply #61)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:29 PM
33taw (2,305 posts)
63. There have been nearly 900 farm bankruptcies in 2019.
The ginseng business it really impacted. They are in a very red area of the state the Trump goes to (Mosinee).
Sonny Perdue came here and said of small farms "In America, the big get bigger and the small go out," There were also cuts to to the Great Lakes project that impact WI. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:39 PM
CalFione (571 posts)
4. We can swap Wisconsin for Arizona... but we'll need the right candidate to do it
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to CalFione (Reply #4)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:41 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
6. I think we need to think 50 state solution
like Howard Dean did. We shouldn't have to swap one state for another. We can have both Wisconsin and Arizona if we can get out the vote.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #6)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:39 PM
The Revolution (724 posts)
37. This
We need to get back to the strategy that led to big wins in 2006 and 2008. Abandoning states just leads to them shifting more and more red since they never even hear from Dems.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Revolution (Reply #37)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:07 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
40. Hopefully
some day we'll get rid of the electoral college and then every vote will count during a presidential election. There are plenty of Democrats in so-called red states, but they must get sick of their votes not counting.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to CalFione (Reply #4)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:33 PM
thesquanderer (11,492 posts)
43. Or maybe even Texas, surprisingly enough. (n/t)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:42 PM
videohead5 (1,862 posts)
7. Wait until we get more
Polls of Wisconsin. I have my doubts about this poll. Hillary did much better than this. It does not jive.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to videohead5 (Reply #7)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:42 PM
JCMach1 (27,037 posts)
25. I think WI is an outlier... What it does signal is how purple
WI is this cycle.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:44 PM
honest.abe (7,113 posts)
8. If we lose Wisconsin again it could end up in a tie.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to honest.abe (Reply #8)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 PM
KPN (14,523 posts)
12. And then we would lose because we know the GOP will find a nefarious way to rip
the WH from potential Dem grasp. Try as we might.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to KPN (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:31 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
64. No, they will legally pick the president
In the case of a tie, the election goes to the House. However, it’s one vote per state not per Congressperson. Republicans control more states than Democrats despite being in the minority.
As currently stands with polls, we actually need to pick up the Omaha delegate just to tie last I checked. ME-2 is out of reach. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to nobuddy (Reply #64)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:40 PM
KPN (14,523 posts)
66. Ah another no longer sensible construct like
the EC. We are so frigging screwed.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to KPN (Reply #66)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:43 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
67. Well, land votes or something
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to honest.abe (Reply #8)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 PM
StevieM (10,424 posts)
17. Actually, under this map the GOP would probably win the 2nd Congressional district of Maine.
So Trump would hit 270.
We should campaign hard in North Carolina and Arizona. I believe both states are winnable. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to StevieM (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:38 PM
honest.abe (7,113 posts)
22. Is that second district of Maine solid Red?
I didnt know that.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to honest.abe (Reply #22)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:41 PM
StevieM (10,424 posts)
24. I wouldn't say that it is solid red.
I would say that in a close race it will lean red.
And if the GOP can win Wisconsin then they might have a slight advantage in the 2nd congressional district of Maine. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to StevieM (Reply #24)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:42 PM
honest.abe (7,113 posts)
26. Thanks!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to StevieM (Reply #24)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:33 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
65. We need to organize in Omaha
to offset ME2
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to nobuddy (Reply #65)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:52 PM
StevieM (10,424 posts)
68. I was actually thinking that when I was writing that post.
We should fight to hold onto ME-2 and we should also fight to win NE-2.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to StevieM (Reply #68)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:56 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
70. ME-2 will go +10 for trump
And if we tie we lose because of how the tie is broken. We need to flip a state.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to StevieM (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:23 PM
musicblind (4,477 posts)
51. I live in North Carolina, and I just don't see it as winnable anymore.
It feels far more conservative than it used to. I hope I'm wrong.
If it comes down to it, I think the North Carolina money should be spent in Arizona. This Wisconsin poll is an outlier, too. So spending it in Wisconsin might be wise. Especially if regionally relevant Klobuchar or Buttigieg are the nominees. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:45 PM
turbinetree (23,796 posts)
9. Quininnpac poll................
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to turbinetree (Reply #9)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:52 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
15. Who on earth did they poll for this?
WISCONSIN
Among registered voters in Wisconsin, President Trump leads the Democratic candidates by between 7 and 11 percentage points in head to head election matchups: Trump tops Senator Amy Klobuchar 50 - 39 percent; Trump leads Senator Elizabeth Warren 51 - 41 percent; Trump beats former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg 49 - 41 percent; Trump tops former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg 49 - 41 percent; Trump defeats Senator Bernie Sanders 50 - 43 percent; Trump is ahead of former Vice President Joe Biden 49 - 42 percent. Those are some bizarre numbers. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:54 PM
turbinetree (23,796 posts)
18. I do not trust the Quinnnapac polling ever....................
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:45 PM
TwilightZone (21,570 posts)
29. His approval rating (Marquette) in WI is 48%.
So the numbers are pretty much in line, as inexplicable as they may appear.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:51 PM
SDANation (419 posts)
30. This could explain
PARTY IDENTIFICATION Republican 32% Democrat 26 Independent 35 Other/DK/NA 6 +/- 3.4 percentage pts, if Trump enjoys a 90% + approval rating among republicans, could really push the poll that direction. Could be heavily weighted republicans or republican leaning ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SDANation (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:05 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
39. That would make sense
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:50 PM
Meadowoak (3,754 posts)
56. Senior citizens who answer rotary dial telephones in the daytime.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Meadowoak (Reply #56)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:47 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
72. Yeah
People who pick up the phone even when they don't recognize the caller. I am a senior citizen though and I never answer the phone if I don't know the caller.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:46 PM
Recursion (56,506 posts)
10. The future of the Democratic party is brown and Southern
WI is a lost cause. I argued this in 2016 when we were wasting phone bankers' time there. Florida is a more realistic target, and it's not a great one. Georgia and North Carolina are great ones, though.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Recursion (Reply #10)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:58 PM
StevieM (10,424 posts)
20. We can disagree about whether WI is a lost cause, but thank you for pointing out that we DID fight
to win that state in 2016.
We had a huge ground operation there. And we spent enormous amounts of money there in advertising. It is true that we didn't hold rallies in a state where polls showed us up by double digits. But that is not uncommon. And it is ridiculous how the media acts like we did nothing there at all. Then again, it is ridiculous that they sometimes tack on Michigan, a state where we did hold rallies, for good measure. And sometimes people tack on the whole Midwest....or all the battleground states. Facts no longer matter, just finding a way to believe something that allows you to justify your rage and contempt. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Recursion (Reply #10)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:39 PM
honest.abe (7,113 posts)
23. With Sanders Florida is probably a lost cause as well.
He polls terrible there.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to honest.abe (Reply #23)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:43 PM
Recursion (56,506 posts)
27. True but he does better in GA and NC
There's definitely a path for Sanders to the White House, I just worry about what Congress looks like in its wake.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Recursion (Reply #27)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:44 PM
honest.abe (7,113 posts)
28. Yep.
It could be ugly
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Recursion (Reply #10)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:02 PM
uponit7771 (88,290 posts)
45. This poll doesn't look right for WI, that's an 8 point swing in less than 5 days on 538 (link)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:46 PM
KPN (14,523 posts)
11. Ignore Wisconsin at our risk.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 PM
videohead5 (1,862 posts)
13. Another poll
Taken a week ago had Biden and Bernie both tied with Trump in Wisconsin.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to videohead5 (Reply #13)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
16. Something about that poll
just doesn't sound right.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #16)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:58 PM
videohead5 (1,862 posts)
19. I think it's a outlier
I wonder if NBC/WSJ polled Wisconsin the other day? I know they polled the battleground state.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to videohead5 (Reply #19)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:02 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
38. Yeah, it is so far off
from other polls I've seen. I'm sure it makes Trump happy for awhile though.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:03 PM
mahina (15,983 posts)
21. Thank you. This is the info I need.
National polls feel good but aren’t important. This is the stuff.
Paul Wellstone, bless us. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:51 PM
SDANation (419 posts)
31. This could explain
This could explain
PARTY IDENTIFICATION Republican 32% Democrat 26 Independent 35 Other/DK/NA 6 +/- 3.4 percentage pts, if Trump enjoys a 90% + approval rating among republicans, could really push the poll that direction. Could be heavily weighted republicans or republican leaning ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SDANation (Reply #31)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:03 PM
videohead5 (1,862 posts)
33. Yeah
It looks like an outlier. They over polled Republicans.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jirel (1,767 posts)
32. Does anyone care what Nate Cohn thinks?
It's February. The general is in November. Literally anything can happen, including finishing the slide to dictatorship so there will be no election.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:11 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
34. There was an article a few months(?) back
about how AA's in Milwaukee didn't vote. About 2% (from memory, may be different number but it was really low) were stripped of their voting rights. The vast majority who stayed home was apathy and hopelessness - they felt their lot hasn't changed one lick so why bother. And that if just 25%(?) of the AA's who didn't vote that year turned out for HRC, she would have carried the state.
We need to address this this year. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to nobuddy (Reply #34)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:08 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
59. Yep.
There's greater disenfranchisement among Milwaukee's black community than in many other places. Deindustrialization and disinvestment hit the city hard, and with a Republican majority in the legislature, it's hard to make the kind of substantive investments needed to move towards a better economic and social climate.
It's going to take a much more hands on approach to change this, and it's good that the convention is in Milwaukee this year. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #59)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:25 PM
nobuddy (215 posts)
62. Same is true for Flint
Again this is from memory so some details may be off.
Black unemployment in Milwaukee is still massive. They came out in record numbers in 2008. By 2012 the needle barely moved for black unemployment compared to white unemployment. By 2016 they gave up. Interviews with black residents who didn’t vote in 2016 said it doesn’t matter who is in office; they’re still going to be poor and forgotten about. Our nominee needs to address their despair and grievances. They (and everyone really) want someone to vote for not someone to vote against. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to nobuddy (Reply #62)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:10 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
71. agreed
The Flint water crisis and Detroit's bankruptcy were both cases where a harder push and stronger presence would have made a difference on election day. IMO, the Obama team completely screwed the pooch when Detroit faced bankruptcy - they barely put out a press release, and this is a city that is often considered one of the capitals of Black America. Someone on his team should have insisted that the administration stand up more firmly for Detroit, with at least some commission meetings and some signaling of determined support. The actual response was so muted that it barely counts as a response.
We paid for this mistake in 2016, and we should take a lesson from what happened before we pay for it again in 2020. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:17 PM
ibegurpard (16,685 posts)
35. I don't buy this poll at all
Is Wisconsin a lock for us? Hell no. Are we in danger of losing there again? Hell yes. But there's no way he is up by at least 7 points against every Democratic challenger.
He only won the state by less than a percentage point in 2016. Wisconsin just elected a Democratic governor in 2018. He is underwater in the state by every poll taken: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/approval_rating/president/wi/president_trump_job_approval_in_wisconsin-6233.html With all this I'm expected to believe that Wisconsin has suddenly swung THAT much in favor of him so recently? How? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ibegurpard (Reply #35)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:18 PM
Awsi Dooger (14,565 posts)
48. Agreed...Wisconsin is a problem but this is not representative poll
I would estimate Trump leads by 3-4 points in that state
2020 is not 2018. The out party always somehow always believes that the presidential race will be a rerun of the midterm. Benefit of a doubt returns to the incumbent. None of this should be surprising. I realize I'm not popular here for pointing out the monumental task of ousting an incumbent whose party has been in power only one term. Big deal. Day to day developments are always comically trivial compared to long term foundational realities. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
corbettkroehler (1,898 posts)
36. Meanwhile, Sanders' National Lead Over tRump Remains Unchanged
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #36)
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Response to Name removed (Reply #42)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:06 PM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
46. How do you figure?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:10 PM
ancianita (30,038 posts)
41. Primary polls don't always correlate with GE polls. It's still too far out. imo
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Response to Name removed (Reply #47)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:18 PM
ancianita (30,038 posts)
49. But the GE's not here yet. Anyone can say anything in the heat of primary season.
Representative samples, margins of error are ignored in service of PR media effects and voter audience conditioning.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to ancianita (Reply #49)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
60. True, but...
it's not wise to ignore warning signs. This is a legitimate polling organization that has reminded us of how critical the Wisconsin vote is, and without an energetic campaign in the state, it may stay in the red column. I'm cautiously optimistic, but there is a lot of work to do and it would be a mistake to dismiss the poll results.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
uponit7771 (88,290 posts)
44. Unnnnn, I need to see more polls. That's an 8 point swing with Biding in less than 5 days, that does
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #44)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:00 PM
Celerity (34,233 posts)
58. I do not see what you are claiming at your link at all
You are comparing two separate pollsters and the other one was taken on January 14th to the 16th,, around 5 weeks ago, not 5 days ago.
Look at the dates of the actual polling, NOT when the poll was listed on 538. ![]() https://www.wmc.org/wp-content/uploads/WMC-Polling-analysis-memo-Jan-2020.pdf ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:34 PM
Nanjeanne (4,081 posts)
52. I think WI is in play. Give our candidates a chance to campaign there.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:53 PM
jcmaine72 (1,744 posts)
57. Quinnipiac is Algonquin for bullshit.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #57)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:54 PM
tritsofme (15,677 posts)
69. Do you have an actual issue with Quinnipiac? Or do you just not like the results?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |