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Bernie mounted a more assertive defense against allegations of verbal abuse from his backers. (Original Post) Donkees Feb 2020 OP
Yikes relayerbob Feb 2020 #1
Shift, blame, shift shift, blame. What a bogus statement. Poorest I have seen. Weak. krissey Feb 2020 #2
He has direct control squirecam Feb 2020 #3
"These people, they could be lizard people." OilemFirchen Feb 2020 #4
That Sounds Horizens Feb 2020 #5
Tell us more about the ISA group that was part of his WA rally. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #6
What a President he would be. BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #7
playing the persecuted victim...again nt msongs Feb 2020 #8
He's totally correct. Mike Niendorff Feb 2020 #9
Not good RandySF Feb 2020 #10
This defense does not explain why sanders refused to control his vetted delegates at National Conven Gothmog Feb 2020 #11
Kicked and recommended for logic and common sense. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #12
Good. He shouldn't throw all his supporters under the bus over a small percentage of bad actors. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #13
Didn't just happen there. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14
 

relayerbob

(6,536 posts)
1. Yikes
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:14 PM
Feb 2020

That's NOT leadership. How does he expect to run a country of 300 million

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
2. Shift, blame, shift shift, blame. What a bogus statement. Poorest I have seen. Weak.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:15 PM
Feb 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
3. He has direct control
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:16 PM
Feb 2020

Over his press secretary, campaign manager, other staff, and direct surrogates appearing on tv or at campaign rally’s. I have seen him direct them to stop such conduct.

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
4. "These people, they could be lizard people."
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:16 PM
Feb 2020

"And there are lizard people on both sides. Millions of lizard people. How can I control lizard people? You need a lizard expert. I'm not a lizard expert."

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Horizens

(637 posts)
5. That Sounds
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:21 PM
Feb 2020

exactly like a trump excuse.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
6. Tell us more about the ISA group that was part of his WA rally.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:22 PM
Feb 2020

I'll bet they really helped his cause.

NOT

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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
7. What a President he would be.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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msongs

(67,347 posts)
8. playing the persecuted victim...again nt
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020
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Mike Niendorff

(3,456 posts)
9. He's totally correct.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

And it amazes me that this even needs to be pointed out on a forum like DU.

Come on, people, you *know* how this works.

DU has been ground zero for it.

Never assume that anonymous internet posters are who they say they are.



MDN

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Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
11. This defense does not explain why sanders refused to control his vetted delegates at National Conven
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:30 PM
Feb 2020

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016



Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.



sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused

Bloomberg's ad reminds me of the conduct that I saw from vetted sanders delegates at the National Convention
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Uncle Joe

(58,272 posts)
12. Kicked and recommended for logic and common sense.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:31 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

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Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
13. Good. He shouldn't throw all his supporters under the bus over a small percentage of bad actors.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020

I've seen plenty of unnecessary personal attacks on social media platforms from supporters of many candidates. Perspective is a good thing.

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sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
14. Didn't just happen there.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

If you read the thread and post by Gothmog, a delegate at the convention you will see just what happened and BS never attempted to control them.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287535202#post11

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