Jon Ralston says he's been told Sanders supporters posted Culinary Union leader's home #, cell phone

[highplainsdem]

Link to tweet

.@meganmesserly asks Geo Kline, the union's leader, to comment on "vicious" attacks from Sanders supporters they talked about Wednesday. She won't. I have been told they have posted her home #, cell phone, etc. The usual nasty stuff. They are not all like this, but too many.

[TDale313]

1. Doxxing never cool.

[squirecam]

3. Yep. More Ralston snark:

Jon Ralston
@RalstonReports
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There are fine people on both sides.
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Megan Messerly
@meganmesserly
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More details: @Culinary226’s spokeswoman tells me they have received “hundreds” of attacks, in the form of mentions, DM’s, calls and emails, including threats to their personal safety. She says she and Geoconda Arguello-Kline have been doxxed, their personal addresses shared.

[squirecam]

2. Disgusting behavior

Nt

[Still In Wisconsin]

4. There are some decent Bernie fans out there...

and then there are people like this. As they say, shit flows downhill. This kind of thing comes from the top, directly or indirectly.

[sueunderh]

62. It starts with Bernie

Exactly right. Bernie is responsible for the actions of his campaign staff. He hired them. Bernie is responsible for the actions of his Bernie Bros. He willingly benefits from their nastiness.

[MH1]

70. Yes, there are. Bernie should tell the Bros "we don't need you ... "

" ... unless you can behave like decent human beings. You bring discredit on our movement by your bad behavior. Stop it."

In all these years, has he ever come CLOSE to saying that? (without the both-siderism?)

[Still In Wisconsin]

71. No because without Bernie Bros he would be nothing.

He knows this. Sanders is little more than a political vandal.

[MH1]

72. LOL, yet some would gaslight us into believing that the "Bernie Bro" is a myth.

I tend to agree with what you said.

[radius777]

85. Agree, especially since it tends to occur IRL

also, a culture of entitlement and viciousness that is often directed at women and PoC.

I will hold my nose and vote for Sanders if he's the nominee, but I know people who won't vote for him under any circumstance, largely due to how they felt they and their candidates/icons (Obama, Hillary, Kamala, Castro, Booker, etc) were treated on social media and IRL also.

[OliverQ]

5. How do we know they are actually Sanders supporters

and not foreign interference?

[Indepatriot]

8. We don't. But many here don't care, anything to tear down Sanders is A OK!

[squirecam]

16. Right. The sanders campaign would never do anything wrong.

DES MOINES, Iowa — Campaign staffers for Sen. Bernie Sanders donned union pins to gain access to worker dining rooms in Las Vegas, the powerful Culinary Workers union said Thursday.

“We can confirm multiple reports of Bernie Sanders’ campaign staffers attempting and gaining access to employee dining rooms at Las Vegas Strip properties where over 57,000 members that we represent work,” said Geoconda Arguello-Kline, Culinary Workers Union Local 226 secretary-treasurer.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[Indepatriot]

32. The quoted union "leader" has no agenda here...nope

Sanders supporters may not know the name of Argüello-Kline offhand, but they absolutely know the name of Neera Tanden and the Center for American Progress, a “liberal” think tank closely associated with the Clintons and a longtime opponent of progressive politics, where Argüello-Kline is a board member. Tanden and the CPA are perhaps Sanders's most public enemies, and Argüello-Kline attacking him on behalf of the culinary union makes a lot more sense when you know that association. Amazingly, she tried the same attack strategy in 2016 before those caucuses!

They failed again this time, as the rank and file smelled a rat, and the union announced no endorsement...

[squirecam]

37. So no acknowledgement

That the Sanders campaign staff did wrong. Just more deflection?

[Still In Wisconsin]

63. Of course not. Because Saint Bernie is incapable of sin.

Bernie does no wrong ever and if you think he does you’re just another corporatist in the pocket of Wall Street.

[Midnight Writer]

58. So....the Union guys have it coming because they aren't pure liberal enough? Is that your point?

CPA is "Sander's most public enemies" because they are associated with the Clinton's?

Have Sander's folks released an Enemies List?

Calling people whose support you need to win "enemies" is a bad look and a poor strategy.

[Still In Wisconsin]

64. Haven't you heard? It's THEIR revolution

You’re not invited. And they don’t need you because votes for Bernie magically count extra!

[radius777]

86. Tanden and Clinton are liberals.

Your scare quotes would seem to be a smear against these fine Dems.

Bernie is the one who is not a liberal or a Dem, as a self declared Democratic Socialist independent.

[dware]

95. Just like you have no agenda here?

Amirite?

[W_HAMILTON]

25. Even more reason for Sanders to completely and wholly disavow these sort of attacks...

...but he apparently secretly supports them, which is why he installed some of the most divisive internet troll types at the upper echelon of his campaign staff.

If he needs help on how to actually control his surrogates and supporters and send a strong message that this behavior is completely unacceptable, he can ask Warren (assuming they are back on speaking terms after he shit on her as well).

[Indepatriot]

39. Any proof of this "secret" support and installation of "divisive internet trolls?

Or are simply pulling these "facts" from your behind?

[W_HAMILTON]

45. Yes -- see:

David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, etc. You can also include those he hired and then turned around and had to rescind offers to once their toxicity was made public (e.g., Matt Orfalea).

Sanders can play dumb when it comes to random internet trolls and their toxic shit, but he can't play dumb when he is the one hiring these people.

[squirecam]

48. Like these people?

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[W_HAMILTON]

54. The hell they do.

Only the most delusional of supporters would think Sirota and Turner have any credibility whatsoever.

[sheshe2]

82. Correct.

They voted for Jill Stein and are to this day proud of it as trump squats in the WH.

[Cha]

92. Why the insult?

[dware]

96. Doesn't matter now Cha,

the person is now in the netherworld.

[Cha]

98. oooops

[dware]

99. LOL.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

100. LMFAO!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Cha]

119. Just look around

[Still In Wisconsin]

65. Bernie shits on everyone who isn't Bernie.

Kinda like someone else we all know.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

76. YOU SAID IT!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[dware]

97. The person isn't saying anything anymore,

[redqueen]

9. EXACTLY. And further, how do we know it even happened?

I'll wait for actual reports not this 'someone said' stuff.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. Someone said that when someone says somethin, they dont necessarily say what they said they said.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[HarlanPepper]

106. That's what Trump supporters said about Russia.

Funny to hear the same lines parroted here. Same cult like sentiment, different brand.

[HarlanPepper]

105. Sounds a lot like what I heard about Russia from Trump supporters.

“Well it was all hearsay....”

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

116. BIIIIIINNGGOOOOO!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[squirecam]

12. Oh boy...

🤮

[tinrobot]

19. It can be both.

Foreign powers interfered in support of Bernie last time.

[elleng]

104. We don't, at all,

and the Senator has disavowed them.

[Quixote1818]

112. How do we know we can trust Jon Ralston? He made up the story about sanders supporters throwing

a chair back in 2016 and the National Press ran with it. I don't trust a thing he says.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/

[flotsam]

117. +A Billion!

[krissey]

6. And it is always against a woman or POC, consistently, constantly, for five years.

[Indepatriot]

13. Something to back that with? A study? Some credible links?

Or are you just pulling it outta thin air?

[krissey]

14. Anyone who is paying attention knows this.

[Indepatriot]

22. So, no. Thanks

[Cha]

107. It's Not "out of thin air".

[JudyM]

89. Please share actual evidence of this supposed fact.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

101. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[DanTex]

7. A guy with this much animosity towards Bernie should obviously not be a debate moderator.

Of course, neither should Chuck Todd, who cited a right-winger comparing Bernie supporters to Nazis. But it is what it is.

[rockfordfile]

11. I do agree about Chuck Todd

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

83. LOVE IT! Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash will continue raising Bernie to new heights in the polls!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Cha]

113. No it isn't.

[Kurt V.]

10. as we're seeing there is more to this story. the rift between leadership and rank and file members

is as much of a story as the lede

[squirecam]

24. Perhaps more of this?

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[Kurt V.]

30. I'll bet they weren't there for the smorgasbord

[squirecam]

33. I've heard

It was underwhelming.

[Kurt V.]

35. lol

[Cha]

15. How do they think that's going to help their cause?

[redqueen]

17. I thought I recognized that name.

One View: Ralston fails in defense of chair-throwing claim

https://www.rgj.com/story/opinion/voices/2016/06/30/one-view-ralston-fails-defense-chair-throwing-claim/86561764/

I remember people on DU eagerly spreading that claim too.

[flotsam]

74. Yes!

I was looking for someone to remember this!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. Yup, me too!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[tiredtoo]

18. Any proof the calls and posting of data came from Sanders supporters? EOM

[squirecam]

21. They have a history...

DES MOINES, Iowa — Campaign staffers for Sen. Bernie Sanders donned union pins to gain access to worker dining rooms in Las Vegas, the powerful Culinary Workers union said Thursday.

“We can confirm multiple reports of Bernie Sanders’ campaign staffers attempting and gaining access to employee dining rooms at Las Vegas Strip properties where over 57,000 members that we represent work,” said Geoconda Arguello-Kline, Culinary Workers Union Local 226 secretary-treasurer.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[tiredtoo]

23. A story from 4 years ago. Hmmm? NT

[squirecam]

27. Yes

There seems to be ALOT of them on DU. Some from 10, 20, or 30 years ago even.

Sorry, I though the last time Bernie ran, and his campaign staff improperly entered union work places, was relevant. As, you know, it was in Las Vegas.

[TwilightZone]

28. And the same union.

This wouldn't be much of a surprise if it's true. It's been a pattern when it looks like an organization is going to endorse someone other than Sanders. I would hope it's just a tiny fraction of his supporters, but it's obvious that this isn't an isolated incident.

[squirecam]

31. Which is why questioning is valid, given the prior campaign staff

Involving the same city and same Union. It’s relevant to inquire.

[TwilightZone]

36. Agreed.

[squirecam]

42. Ty

Nt

[Indepatriot]

44. The union "leader' who reported it is a Clinton backing CAP boar member....nothing to see here..

Sanders supporters may not know the name of Argüello-Kline offhand, but they absolutely know the name of Neera Tanden and the Center for American Progress, a “liberal” think tank closely associated with the Clintons and a longtime opponent of progressive politics, where Argüello-Kline is a board member. Tanden and the CPA are perhaps Sanders's most public enemies, and Argüello-Kline attacking him on behalf of the culinary union makes a lot more sense when you know that association. Amazingly, she tried the same attack strategy in 2016 before those caucuses!

They failed again this time, as the rank and file smelled a rat, and the union announced no endorsement...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

102. ZERO!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[progressoid]

20. I have also been told that unicorns fart rainbows when Chuck Todd sneezes.

People can be told a lot of things. Without verification, it doesn't mean much.

[tiredtoo]

26. LOL

[Indepatriot]

49. Post of the day!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

84. Bad example cuz I know for a FART that's true...someone told me that someone said it's so!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[d_b]

29. I sure hope they find these rascally sanders supporters

If this Bernie thing doesn't work out, these dudebros should look into becoming CIA operatives because they're ghosts.

[squirecam]

52. They might be good at infiltration

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[hlthe2b]

34. Gandhi THEN and NOW:

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ"

Gandhi today:

"I like your Sanders. I do not like your Sanders Supporters. They are so unlike..."

Just a thought.... Bernie, reign in (some of) your supporters

[Hassin Bin Sober]

38. Same nonsense that was trotted out last time.

We are ready for it this time.

[TwilightZone]

40. It was true last time.

“We can confirm multiple reports of Bernie Sanders’ campaign staffers attempting and gaining access to employee dining rooms at Las Vegas Strip properties where over 57,000 members that we represent work,” said Geoconda Arguello-Kline, Culinary Workers Union Local 226 secretary-treasurer.

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver confirmed the action and offered an apology.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sanders-staffers-posed-as-union-members-in-vegas-218351

[squirecam]

43. Yes it was

Nt

[Cha]

75. Tell them to stop.

[questionseverything]

87. stop all?

what/which

[Cha]

90. should tell them to Stop doxxing.

[questionseverything]

108. when you have policies that benefit the 99

that covers huge groups of peops….some of em may not behave well

[Cha]

110. There's No Excuse.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

114. OHHHH YEAAAHHHHH!!

BTW, that GIF is a freakin RIOT!! It exemplifies PERFECTLY the stunts bein pulled against Bernie by the corporate media and political establishment who fear the inevitable Bernie presidency... that they think there's even a remote possibility that it's going to work this time is what's REALLY funny!!



We The People are WAY smarter than they give 'em credit for.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[aikoaiko]

41. Anyone seen any screenshot of said "vicious" attacks to Kline?

Anyone?

I remember the false claims of Bernie supporters yelling, "Speak English" in a NV event back in the day.

[Nanjeanne]

47. Is this the same Ralston who lied about the chair throwing during NV convention?

Let’s see some evidence Ralston. You are known for spreading falsehoods.

[calguy]

50. Political terrorism?

[Indepatriot]

53. Nope. Just a good old fashioned ratfuck from Ralston and Tanden

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/

[squirecam]

55. Weren't you the one

Who claimed that the RJ editorial board controlled the Las Vegas Sun?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=512192

[Cha]

78. You are so Wrong!

[pecosbob]

91. For all of those slamming The Sun, you can now go soak your head (re-posted from the earlier thread)

The liberal Sun would no longer exist without the operating agreement with the Review Journal which preceded Adelson's ownership by decades. Adelson would have put the sun out of business by now if not for the court-mandated operating agreement. Adelson and the Review Journal are now in court trying to void the agreement.

Operating agreements like this are common in a world dominated by Hearst papers and are the only reason many smaller liberal papers still exist.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

115. DEAD BALLS ON!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[TomCADem]

51. This Is Why We Need to Stop BS

There is no change. Same bullying, divisive tactics.

[squirecam]

57. Yep

Nt

[Historic NY]

56. Swarms...............

[evertonfc]

59. Bernie

supporters are going to make a real mess of things. They will get us beat and cost us House seats. Many of them don't care. They aren't Democrats buy just part of a movement that, to be fair, has policies that are fantasy. Mark my words.

[peggysue2]

60. Sorry but these so-called supporters. . .

Are out of control. Time for Sanders to speak to this and his surrogates’ attitudes.

This is not a winning strategy. For anyone.

[sueunderh]

61. Freaking Bernie Bros

Seriously, why does Bernie Sanders attract, hire, embrace these deplorables? Because, he has always promoted nastiness and a campaign of grievances. God help us all. But if he's the nominee I will vote for him.

[Gothmog]

66. sanders supporters have been busy

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

67. sanders supporters did dox union leaders

Link to tweet

[Cha]

69. Yep

[showblue22]

68. This is how he will govern if he wins

Senators, members of congress, economist, people who score the CBO and many others. The slightest disagreement whether it has merit or not will be subject of an onslaught of vile, nasty threats even to their families, won't they? Isn't this what Bernie was talking about when he talks about his strategy to get things passed?

[Zolorp]

94. So we would be trading a fascist Trump for this sort of Trumpian person

Not good.

[Scurrilous]

73. I bet it was manbun.

[RandySF]

77. Sounds like them.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

79. Idiots who think they're accomplishing something

They're not.

[Squinch]

88. Hi, Bernie people.

[Zolorp]

93. So essentilally, they conduct themselves no different from the MAGAts

Got it.

[kabelle]

103. very dangerous

They need to be called out.

[chillfactor]

109. No surprise there..

some of sanders supporters have crossed over the line and sanders does nothing about it. God help us if he becomes the nominee!

[Quixote1818]

111. Jon Ralston? The "reporter" who made up the story about a chair being thrown by Sanders supporters

in 2016? LOL

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/

[Scurrilous]

118. ...