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Warren's campaign is canceling TV ads in SC & Nevada (Original Post) Jose Garcia Feb 2020 OP
What does this mean? CowboyProgressive Feb 2020 #1
It means her campaign in on its last leg Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #2
Biden better win SC at140 Feb 2020 #5
SC is do or die for him Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #8
Where's an oligarch when you need one? Oh, there you are. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #54
Isn't that interesting BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #38
Joe is in pretty bad shape too Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #42
Oh my bad god he's finished shape. Finished strong 3rd. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #53
No, it means she burned through a lot of money on advertising in Iowa, where Sanders also burned highplainsdem Feb 2020 #14
Good thing for Bernie he has more money, from more donors, than any other candidate! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #34
Unless that number is inflated by people that give small donations 850+ times... ehrnst Feb 2020 #47
It means she is conceding SC and shifting money to best use in Nevada. bluewater Feb 2020 #3
If she has a good showing in Nevada, she can use that momentum to still be competitive in SC, Indepatriot Feb 2020 #6
The OP said she is cancelling TV ads in Nevada. Is that inaccurate? n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #12
two different points. bluewater Feb 2020 #16
Thanks. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #17
That's how I read the article, yes. Laelth Feb 2020 #19
I don't necessarily see that as BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #39
Very good points. bluewater Feb 2020 #45
... BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #52
Oh, thank you for the clarification. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #43
I had just seen my first Warren ad on TV a few weeks ago. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #4
That's sad... BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #7
I'm not shocked. I'm bummed. hangaleft Feb 2020 #35
Same here - but since 88 MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #36
Don't be bummed! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #40
Thank you. I was mis-interpreting this article. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #44
This makes me sad. She's a wonderful candidate. Happyhippychick Feb 2020 #9
Me too, though I hope it's not over for Elizabeth... very sad to hear. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #11
I agree! mvd Feb 2020 #23
Warren has to be the most competent, intelligent female candidate to eva run for President! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #30
She's a great senator and a great American calguy Feb 2020 #15
Couldn't agree more!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #31
Yes she is. CentralMass Feb 2020 #27
Sad to hear that... not a good sign. I've always loved Elizabeth. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10
Damn uponit7771 Feb 2020 #13
That's a good article. Laelth Feb 2020 #18
She needs to cancel her campaign LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #20
She can compete in Nevada. bluewater Feb 2020 #24
Agreed, Elizabeth's gettin 3rd place, at a MINIMUM, is an absolute must. Best of luck to her!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #32
3rd place will be a real competition. bluewater Feb 2020 #33
Well aren't you special, LeftTurn3623 Hekate Feb 2020 #29
I want to narrow the field so Bernie doesnt run away with this LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #48
Unrec, she's third in delegate count at the moment. Agschmid Feb 2020 #46
I hope she stays in past Nevada so her supporters don't jump over to Sanders helpisontheway Feb 2020 #51
Just a reminder- Warren is 3rd in delegates, ahead of Amy and Biden Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #21
spot on. bluewater Feb 2020 #25
If she gets 4th place in Nevada plus sc and does not drop out Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #22
"questioning her motives"? jcgoldie Feb 2020 #28
You mean, if someone refuses to drop out after it's clear that they will not win... ehrnst Feb 2020 #57
I am sorry to hear this. SamKnause Feb 2020 #26
TV ad money is just being wasted MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Mike 03 Feb 2020 #41
I have received over a dozen texts from Warren asking for money since this weekend Gothmog Feb 2020 #49
That is unfortunately normal for her campaign MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #55
I suspect that Nevada will be her last stand. StevieM Feb 2020 #50
I am pulling for Biden to win SC Politicub Feb 2020 #56
 
1. What does this mean?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

Too many well paid core staffers and has to cut cost to afford to heavy media markets for supper Tuesday?
This is not a good sign for things extending past Super Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jose Garcia

(2,715 posts)
2. It means her campaign in on its last leg
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:20 PM
Feb 2020
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at140

(6,116 posts)
5. Biden better win SC
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

otherwise his campaign money will start drying out.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jose Garcia

(2,715 posts)
8. SC is do or die for him
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
54. Where's an oligarch when you need one? Oh, there you are.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:18 AM
Feb 2020
Joe Biden to host more than 250 donors from Wall Street, big business at NYC fundraisers – here’s the guest list

'The first gathering is set to take place at Sarabeth’s restaurant earlier in the day in Manhattan and the second event will be at the nearby Wayfarer restaurant, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter, who declined to be named as these decisions are made in private. The guest list shows there will be at least 280 attendees split between the two events and each have contributed $2,800 to gain entrance. Nobody has dropped out of attending, these people noted.

There are many others who donated that same amount but could not attend, these people added.'

https://www.cn0/02/13/joe-biden-hosts-wall-street-donors-at-ny-fundraisers-as-campaign-struggles.html


280 times $2,800.00?

'Jethro!''Commence to ciphering.'



'2 gazinta 4, 2 times, 3 gazinta to 9, 3 times.'

$784,000.00?



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BlueMTexpat

(15,422 posts)
38. Isn't that interesting
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:54 AM
Feb 2020

that you would think so?

She has raised USD five million since Iowa.

How's Joe doing?

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Jose Garcia

(2,715 posts)
42. Joe is in pretty bad shape too
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:12 AM
Feb 2020

If he doesn't finish strong in SC, he is done.

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
53. Oh my bad god he's finished shape. Finished strong 3rd.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:53 AM
Feb 2020
x 22.7 million

'Joe Biden’s presidential campaign took in $22.7 million in the fourth quarter, an improving fundraising pace that still lags some of his rivals for the 2020 Democratic nomination.

It marks the best cash haul for the former vice president so far, his campaign announced Thursday. It did not say how much money it had in the bank heading into January, the crucial final weeks before the first primary nominating contest in Iowa.

“We had a great quarter, and we’re going to expect another one next time,” Biden said in a video shared by his campaign.'

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/02/joe-biden-raises-22point7-million-in-the-fourth-quarter.html
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highplainsdem

(50,061 posts)
14. No, it means she burned through a lot of money on advertising in Iowa, where Sanders also burned
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020

through a lot of money on advertising, more than anyone else.

A recent Politico article said Warren's spending on advertising in the last weeks before Iowa was second only to Sanders'.

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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
34. Good thing for Bernie he has more money, from more donors, than any other candidate!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:58 AM
Feb 2020

And more volunteers as well. It takes money and shoe leather to win, and Bernie's supporters will keep ponying up, at $27.00 a pop, to get the job done.

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
47. Unless that number is inflated by people that give small donations 850+ times...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020

Does the source of your stat separate out individual donors from individual donations? Do share.

WASHINGTON—The February day that Sen. Bernie Sanders began his second Democratic presidential campaign, Christine Peloza gave him $27, the amount Mr. Sanders often boasted was the average donation in his first run. Then, she kept giving, in $3 increments, clicking donate up to 20 times a day.

By the end of June, Ms. Peloza, a 34-year-old office manager at an elderly care facility in Illinois, had donated more than 850 times to Mr. Sanders.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/small-donors-get-creative-to-give-over-and-over-to-2020-candidates-11572001202
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. It means she is conceding SC and shifting money to best use in Nevada.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:26 PM
Feb 2020
The day of her fourth-place finish in the New Hampshire primary, they cut another $370,000 in South Carolina, moving the majority of that money to Nevada, according to the Warren campaign. Nevada holds caucuses a week before the South Carolina primary.


I think they found their TV spending was ineffective. That's not a good sign. So they must be using that money for Get Out the Vote in Nevada.

Warren now needs to finish 3rd in Nevada AND beat BOTH Biden and Klobuchar to be viable going forward.
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
6. If she has a good showing in Nevada, she can use that momentum to still be competitive in SC,
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

so focusing on GOTV in Nevada makes sense.

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totodeinhere

(13,167 posts)
12. The OP said she is cancelling TV ads in Nevada. Is that inaccurate? n/t
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:37 PM
Feb 2020
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
16. two different points.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:45 PM
Feb 2020

The article says she is canceling TV ads in Nevada , but also moving money from SC to Nevada.

The day of her fourth-place finish in the New Hampshire primary, they cut another $370,000 in South Carolina, moving the majority of that money to Nevada, according to the Warren campaign. Nevada holds caucuses a week before the South Carolina primary.


She is concentrating on Nevada and conceding SC, and not putting that money into TV.

Like I said, probably it's going into Get Out the Vote on the ground since Nevada is a caucus.

Her TV ads must have been ineffective.



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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
19. That's how I read the article, yes.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:54 PM
Feb 2020

Plus, she's making a play for Maine on Super Tuesday.

-Laelth

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BlueMTexpat

(15,422 posts)
39. I don't necessarily see that as
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

"conceding" SC.

I see it more as putting the $$$ where she needs it NOW.

Per a mailing I received this am, the campaign has raised USD 5 million since Iowa and has set a new goal of USD 7 million by NV.

She is simply not spending beyond her means. Once she has the $$$, she'll move it back.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
45. Very good points.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:15 AM
Feb 2020

I think you are correct.

A 2nd or 3rd place finish in Nevada would bounce her back up for SC.


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BlueMTexpat

(15,422 posts)
52. ...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:14 AM
Feb 2020

I am hoping for at least that!

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
43. Oh, thank you for the clarification.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:14 AM
Feb 2020

This is better news.

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W_HAMILTON

(8,105 posts)
4. I had just seen my first Warren ad on TV a few weeks ago.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:27 PM
Feb 2020
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
7. That's sad...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020

This is never the sign of a healthy campaign. It can be explained away as adjusting resources - but it’s the canary in the coal mine really. If she starts laying off staff anywhere - then it’s over.

To be honest, I’m shocked.

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hangaleft

(649 posts)
35. I'm not shocked. I'm bummed.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 02:41 AM
Feb 2020

Since I first voted for McGovern in 1972, I have enthusiastically voted for a presidential candidate twice. Count em, two times. In 1972 and 1984 (Mondale). In every other election I’ve had to hold my nose.

My support is the kiss of death. And, at 70, it doesn’t look like I’ll live to see the day a true progressive occupies the White House. Hell, if we don’t win in November we’re probably gonna be living under a fascist autocracy.

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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
36. Same here - but since 88
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:32 AM
Feb 2020

I might have shift strategy and contribute to who I want to drop out instead.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,422 posts)
40. Don't be bummed!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:02 AM
Feb 2020

Elizabeth just does not want to spend beyond her means. But she's STILL in there.

She needs people on the ground to GOTV in NV,

And no, YOUR support is NOT the "kiss of death." You have apparently been voting like a good Dem for years. Just keep on keeping on!

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
44. Thank you. I was mis-interpreting this article.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:15 AM
Feb 2020
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Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
9. This makes me sad. She's a wonderful candidate.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

I hope she can stay in it.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,364 posts)
11. Me too, though I hope it's not over for Elizabeth... very sad to hear.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:36 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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mvd

(65,245 posts)
23. I agree!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

I decided on Bernie but I would rather Warren go on than anyone other than Sanders.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,364 posts)
30. Warren has to be the most competent, intelligent female candidate to eva run for President!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:45 AM
Feb 2020

The only thing Elizabeth lacks is more political experience... but then, Obama showed that shouldn't be a deal killer when other major positive attributes are factored in.

BTW, I believe that Elizabeth would make an EXCELLENT choice as President Sanders' VP... in case you couldn't already tell I support that decision.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

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Undecided
 

calguy

(5,450 posts)
15. She's a great senator and a great American
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

But the sad truth is every single one of these candidates except one is going to not be the nominee. I'm concerned that my man Joe might be facing the same fate. When our candidate becomes the latest one to drop out then we just have to look for the next best candidate to get behind.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,364 posts)
31. Couldn't agree more!!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,364 posts)
10. Sad to hear that... not a good sign. I've always loved Elizabeth.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:35 PM
Feb 2020

Hopefully, she'll have a good showing in Nevada and can turn things around!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
18. That's a good article.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

Warren is all but abandoning SC. She's focusing on NV, and then, on Super Tuesday, she's trying to grab Maine.

Nifty. We will see if it works.

-Laelth

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
20. She needs to cancel her campaign
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020

What’s the point. She basically saying she can’t compete in these 2 states so where does she go

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
24. She can compete in Nevada.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:36 AM
Feb 2020

For 3rd.

Who else is much stronger besides Bernie and Pete?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,364 posts)
32. Agreed, Elizabeth's gettin 3rd place, at a MINIMUM, is an absolute must. Best of luck to her!!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:51 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
33. 3rd place will be a real competition.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:56 AM
Feb 2020

But she has a good shot at it.

Thanks for the kind words and support!

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Hekate

(92,437 posts)
29. Well aren't you special, LeftTurn3623
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

Are you sure you took a left turn?

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
48. I want to narrow the field so Bernie doesnt run away with this
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 02:46 PM
Feb 2020
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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
46. Unrec, she's third in delegate count at the moment.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:26 AM
Feb 2020
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helpisontheway

(5,024 posts)
51. I hope she stays in past Nevada so her supporters don't jump over to Sanders
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:18 PM
Feb 2020

I want the other candidates to at least have the possibility of keeping Bernie from winning Nevada and South Carolina.

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Fiendish Thingy

(16,577 posts)
21. Just a reminder- Warren is 3rd in delegates, ahead of Amy and Biden
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:36 AM
Feb 2020

No reason for her to dropout before Super Tuesday, especially if Amy and Biden, who are at least as strapped for cash, don’t drop out.

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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
22. If she gets 4th place in Nevada plus sc and does not drop out
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:12 AM
Feb 2020

You have to start questioning her motives.

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jcgoldie

(11,698 posts)
28. "questioning her motives"?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:40 AM
Feb 2020

Thats so stupid. What questions exactly do you have about Elizabeth Warren's motives? Do tell.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
57. You mean, if someone refuses to drop out after it's clear that they will not win...
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020

You have to start questioning their motives?

You don't say....

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SamKnause

(13,326 posts)
26. I am sorry to hear this.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:38 AM
Feb 2020

She is a wonderful candidate.

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Undecided
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
37. TV ad money is just being wasted
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:46 AM
Feb 2020

With all of the Bloomberg and Steyer ads running.

It’s a smart move. Warren has the best infrastructure and should do very well on Super Tuesday.

She does need to come out swinging in the next debate. And swinging at Trump. Hit hard on her independent commission plan to investigate Trump administration corruption. Talk about the CFPB. If the moderators bring up healthcare plans for the billionth time she just needs to say she will sign what Bernie and Amy can deliver from the Senate and that we all want to improve healthcare but Democracy is on life support and you need a corruption fighter like her on your side. Just like she helped save our asses in the Great Recession and fought for reform- one of which was the CFPB.

Steyer needs to drop out and get back to organizing. We need him organizing protests ASAP.

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Gothmog

(149,144 posts)
49. I have received over a dozen texts from Warren asking for money since this weekend
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020
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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
55. That is unfortunately normal for her campaign
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:44 AM
Feb 2020

Relentless texts and emails asking for donations. Her fundraising team needs to dial it back a bit. Hounding people for money just pisses people off.

And quit asking for five bucks. Ask for twenty “or whatever you can spare”.

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StevieM

(10,504 posts)
50. I suspect that Nevada will be her last stand.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:27 PM
Feb 2020

I think she is hoping for a turnaround there. If she doesn't break through then I expect her to exit the race.

To be clear, I am only talking about my speculation. She has the right to stay in for as long as she wants and nobody should fault her for doing otherwise.

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Politicub

(12,172 posts)
56. I am pulling for Biden to win SC
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:56 AM
Feb 2020

He has worked hard for votes from the democratic electorate there.

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