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Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:48 PM

 

Sorry, but the Bloomberg quotes are accurate and reflect his true feelings

The efforts to paint Bloomberg's own words as an attack from RW sources is a pitiful deflection from what he actually said, as recorded by the Aspen Times and reported on here by Slate. Neither of which are RW sources as some are trying to falsely claim that he is being "smeared". He said it, so deal with that. The text of a 2013 interview echoing those thoughts is also included:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/leaked-audio-bloomberg-aspen-institute-racial-profiling-stop-and-frisk-policing.html

"Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that’s where the real crime is."
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Reply Sorry, but the Bloomberg quotes are accurate and reflect his true feelings (Original post)
Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 OP
squirecam Feb 2020 #1
democrattotheend Feb 2020 #8
hlthe2b Feb 2020 #2
rusty fender Feb 2020 #13
hlthe2b Feb 2020 #15
Movbez4 Feb 2020 #3
DesertRat Feb 2020 #4
Name removed Feb 2020 #5
Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #6
Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #7
Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #9
Lordquinton Feb 2020 #19
Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #20
Devil Child Feb 2020 #10
cynatnite Feb 2020 #11
Yavin4 Feb 2020 #12
SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #14
writes3000 Feb 2020 #22
Garrett78 Feb 2020 #16
Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #17
UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #18
BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #21

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:50 PM

1. He will have to answer this on the debate stage

 

Nt
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Response to squirecam (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:04 PM

8. Exactly

 

That's why I am actually glad they changed the rules to let him in. I want him to be held accountable like every other candidate.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:51 PM

2. He should be confronted on these past comments and statements.

 

NO. I am NOT defending them and I don't support him, but I will "hear" what he has to say.
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:52 PM

13. !!!!!!!!

 

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:36 PM

15. back at ya. You are only helping Trump with this reflexive response.

 

See here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287502120

Grow up. People do change and if he hasn't THEN you can excoriate him and I will join you. I'm not a Trumper who doesn't think for themselves. I presume you aren't either.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:56 PM

3. People Change

 

You do realize that educated people change their viewpoints and opinions on life as they age! Do you hold it against Warren that she was a Registered Republican and voted that way for many years? People evolve and learn from their errors, perhaps Bloomberg has had a change of heart.
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Response to Movbez4 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:58 PM

4. Welcome to DU, Movbez4

 

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Response to Movbez4 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:01 PM

6. I wondered who would be the first to bring up Warren's registraton from 25 years ago

 

You lose! Unlike Bloomberg (who supported Bush in 2000 and 2004) she voted for Dems for Presdient since the 70s and changed her registration a quarter centruy ago.

But of course that's a feeble deflection from his quotes, which were made FOUR YEARS AGO. Have any comment on that? I also notice there are a lot of newcomers on here defending Bloomberg. Since he is putting money into paid influencers sure makes one wonder.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:03 PM

7. His statements aren't that old - 2015 for many. He hasn't grown. His apology tour is his campaign

 

tour. His racist and sexist policies are who he is.

My goodness - this is a man who praised and endorsed Bush for the "war on terrorism". He endorsed Rudy Guiliani. His discriminatory Muslim surveillance program was disgraceful.

He's a fraud.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:09 PM

9. Well said n/t

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:45 PM

19. 5 years ago is water under the bridge

 

but an essay from the 70's? That's disqualifying.
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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:46 PM

20. Yup.

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:12 PM

10. Nailed it Bradshaw3! n/t

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:12 PM

11. Honestly, I think most are going to care more about if he can beat tRump...

 

If he's confronted with them and responds accordingly, people will decide.

In the end, most will ignore it if they think he can beat tRump.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:13 PM

12. Is it worse than what Biden said about "busing"? n/t

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:58 PM

14. According to CNN this came from Bernies Camp

 

Not from RW sources...they picked it up and ran with it, but it came from Bernies camp.

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-comments/index.html|

From the CNN link:
The audio was posted to Twitter by writer and author Benjamin Dixon on Monday. Dixon said earlier this year that he believes Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the best option in the Democratic presidential field. While promoting the clip, and several other critical articles and videos of Bloomberg, Dixon has repeatedly tweeted "#BloombergIsaRacist." He also did a podcast episode attacking what he called Bloomberg's "racist, classist past."

I'm not defending Bloomberg as he clearly made the comments.
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Response to SpazzTheCat (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:54 PM

22. Of course, it did.

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:24 PM

16. One of the saddest things I've seen on DU, and that's saying something.

 

If he buys the nomination, many in the base will be alienated, and the Democratic Party will be damaged for years. And he'll lose badly in November.
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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:22 PM

17. Unfortunately, some are fine with him buying the nomination

 

Along with his racist comments, recent support of repubs over Democrats, NDAs for female employes and a host of other problematic facts about him. And the excuse is always "he can beat drumpf so it's all ok" which often comes from the same people who were saying tow weeks ago that it had to be Biden because then he was the "only one" who could beat drumpf.

And you're right, his nomination will alienate many (I would vote for him of course or whoever is nominated), but the response among others who wouldn't won't be because of some Russian campaign, or dirty tricks. Democrats will have done it to themselves.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:42 PM

18. Oh well....if black folks desert Biden and jump ship to Mike it's a done deal. And I'm ok

 

with that if it happens, I prefer it not but let's let a real NY businessman get the job done.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:51 PM

21. It's up to voters to decide how grievous Bloomberg's statements are...

 

Not a Bloomberg guy myself, but I can imagine circumstances where all is forgiven and Bloomberg becomes the perceived best chance to beat Trump.
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