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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:27 PM Feb 2020

**Quinn Poll**- Among African American Voters It's Joe 25% Mike 22% Bernie 19%

PER CNN

I think I will keep my counsel to myself on what these numbers mean. I'll let you draw your own inferences.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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**Quinn Poll**- Among African American Voters It's Joe 25% Mike 22% Bernie 19% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 OP
Biden's in decline left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #1
Mike "Stop and Frisk" Bloomberg... HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #2
It means that the majority of the base of the party squirecam Feb 2020 #3
By your logic, the majority of the base of the party rejects Biden & Bloomberg too. bluewater Feb 2020 #5
The votes that used squirecam Feb 2020 #13
Thanks for agreeing that your logic was a bit off. bluewater Feb 2020 #14
Careful about implications Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #7
Biden used to have almost half the vote locked up squirecam Feb 2020 #12
Yep..... Money talks groundloop Feb 2020 #4
And those billions are soon gonna walk once Bernie kickstarts the vetting of Mike's mayorial record InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10
I'm not a political analyst, but what I'm taking away from this is that Mike 03 Feb 2020 #6
Kick For Joe Biden.. that's my "conclusion". Cha Feb 2020 #8
UHHH OHHH... say it ain't so!! Bernie's poll numbers continue to rise at the expense of Joe... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #9
More of the suRgE nonsense, eh? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #35
Joe is toast. He made a big mistake taking the AA vote for granted. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #11
ikr bluewater Feb 2020 #15
Put some jam on that. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #18
+1, there's something very cynical in saying "no one asked me about stop and frisk until ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #20
Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #23
Creative little bumper sticker. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #36
No one has gone after Bloombergs stop and frisk via tv ads Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #16
Not for long. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #17
omfg uponit7771 Feb 2020 #21
Trump & his supporters aren't going to get much mileage trying to attack Bloomberg as a racist. Kaleva Feb 2020 #22
Attacking Bloomberg as not that great of difference is still horrible. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24
A person would have to be out on the fringe to say there isn't much differance between Trump... Kaleva Feb 2020 #25
When it comes to race? Hell no. Bloomberg has years of denigrating minorities to justify his S&F uponit7771 Feb 2020 #26
Do you really see Trump being able to label Bloomberg as a racist in the general? Kaleva Feb 2020 #28
YES !!! Trump will label me a short white male if I ran against him the issue is there being no ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #29
But you'll agree that Bloomberg as president would be many times better then Trump? Kaleva Feb 2020 #32
Of course but I'd like greater than slightly. after seeing Bloomberg's litany of statements about.. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #33
And yet so many Dems seem to love him. redqueen Feb 2020 #34
Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #37
Outlier at best uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19
❤️ underpants Feb 2020 #27
Jason Johnson was on with Nicolle Wallace last week DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #30
I believe that. It matches what I have heard. Laelth Feb 2020 #39
Yep! Exactly! writes3000 Feb 2020 #40
Based on analysis I heard last night...African Americans are prioritizing defeating Trump. brooklynite Feb 2020 #31
It means that Bloomberg is doing quite well. Laelth Feb 2020 #38
... Scurrilous Feb 2020 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2020 #42
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. Biden's in decline
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:32 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is on the rise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. Mike "Stop and Frisk" Bloomberg...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:36 PM
Feb 2020

How are AA's supporting this guy? Is it the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of advertisements?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
3. It means that the majority of the base of the party
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020

Would rather have any other old white man instead of Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
5. By your logic, the majority of the base of the party rejects Biden & Bloomberg too.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:42 PM
Feb 2020

They all differ by just a few % points after all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. The votes that used
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:02 PM
Feb 2020

To belong to Biden went mostly to Bloomberg.

That’s a rejection of Sanders. He came from nowhere to Almost tying Biden.

Sanders already had around 15% or so. He didn’t gain that much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. Thanks for agreeing that your logic was a bit off.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:07 PM
Feb 2020


The majority of the base of the party seems split between 3 candidates in that poll.

No one has over 50%, no one has been "rejected", voters are just divided about whom they support.

But if it matters, Biden is the candidate that LOST THE MOST SUPPORT.


Hard to look at that in any other light, right?



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
7. Careful about implications
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:45 PM
Feb 2020

One could also imply that the majority of the base of the party would rather have an old white man than a woman or someone from the Midwest.

In any regard these numbers are due to shuffle again after the NH results but, from this, it no longer looks like any single candidate has a solid lock on the African American vote

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
12. Biden used to have almost half the vote locked up
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:00 PM
Feb 2020

Now he has only a quarter. And Bloomberg got most of it.

I’d say the implications are pretty clear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
10. And those billions are soon gonna walk once Bernie kickstarts the vetting of Mike's mayorial record
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. I'm not a political analyst, but what I'm taking away from this is that
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

beating Trump has superseded any other concern, any other policy concern, period.

What's happening now is hard for me to understand or synthesize. I don't know how else to interpret this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,032 posts)
8. Kick For Joe Biden.. that's my "conclusion".
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. UHHH OHHH... say it ain't so!! Bernie's poll numbers continue to rise at the expense of Joe...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:47 PM
Feb 2020

It's just a fact, as I've been predicting for months!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
35. More of the suRgE nonsense, eh?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
11. Joe is toast. He made a big mistake taking the AA vote for granted. n/t
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:52 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
18. Put some jam on that.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:53 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
20. +1, there's something very cynical in saying "no one asked me about stop and frisk until ...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:10 AM
Feb 2020

... I ran for president"

I can imagine what he'd say about Chicago which isn't in the top 10 when it comes to crime.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
23. Yep.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:24 AM
Feb 2020

This is going to hurt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. Creative little bumper sticker.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:15 AM
Feb 2020

And of course, as objective data to support it is irrelevant to little bumper stickers, I can certainly understand why you fail to provide it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
16. No one has gone after Bloombergs stop and frisk via tv ads
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

Wait till Styer blasts him with his million dollar tv ad buys. Bloomberg's numbers will drop like a rock and we will be back to square one.

Styer said on Chuck Todd today he was one of the progressive candidates and he thinks Sanders would be a great President if it's not him in so many words. So i think Styer is there to offset Bloomberg's ad buys.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
17. Not for long.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:50 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:30 PM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
22. Trump & his supporters aren't going to get much mileage trying to attack Bloomberg as a racist.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:58 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
24. Attacking Bloomberg as not that great of difference is still horrible.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:26 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
25. A person would have to be out on the fringe to say there isn't much differance between Trump...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:30 AM
Feb 2020

and Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
26. When it comes to race? Hell no. Bloomberg has years of denigrating minorities to justify his S&F
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:33 AM
Feb 2020

... policies then said months ago no one asked him about S&F before he ran for president.

I don't see how in the hell that works in the general

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
28. Do you really see Trump being able to label Bloomberg as a racist in the general?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:51 AM
Feb 2020

Or anyone else trying to argue that a Bloomberg presidency would be just as harmful to POC as the Trump presidency is?

I think you'll agree that Bloomberg as president would be many times better for everyone then having Trump re-elected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
29. YES !!! Trump will label me a short white male if I ran against him the issue is there being no ...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:58 AM
Feb 2020

... iota of truth to it makes Trump look like an idiot.

When it comes to Bloomberg and race I don't see that happening relative to Bloombergs extensive past of saying the nastiest shit about non-whites and crime.

Not just a couple of ignorant statements IE Bloombergs " no one told me " bullshit just sounds like the most cynical crap.

Also, what has his progressives and liberal record been in NY when it comes to CJR ?!

He couldn't win in NY as a democrat so he ran as a republican !?

We'll see, I don't see why Bloomberg is in the race

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
32. But you'll agree that Bloomberg as president would be many times better then Trump?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:05 AM
Feb 2020

For everyone and that includes POC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
33. Of course but I'd like greater than slightly. after seeing Bloomberg's litany of statements about..
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:11 AM
Feb 2020

... minorities and his justification of S&F I'd like something better than "no one talked to me about S&F" BS.

I don't see a changed mind or heart on that issue with Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
34. And yet so many Dems seem to love him.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:56 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
30. Jason Johnson was on with Nicolle Wallace last week
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:59 AM
Feb 2020

He was talking about what he was hearing in the AfAm community in his travels to MLK day and Black History month events. He said the AfAm community is absolutely terrified that Trump could win again and they are 100% focused on who can beat Trump. He said he heard a lot of unprompted talk about Bloomberg among the people he's encountered on his recent travels. He said AfAms are willing to overlook "stop and frisk" and support him if they believe he can beat Trump. Given this assessment, it shouldn't be that surprising that so much AfAm support has shifted to Bloomberg given Biden's showing in Iowa and perhaps also in NH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
39. I believe that. It matches what I have heard.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:48 AM
Feb 2020

I also note that African American democrats are more amenable to gun control than other democrats. This plays to Bloomberg's hand.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,482 posts)
31. Based on analysis I heard last night...African Americans are prioritizing defeating Trump.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
38. It means that Bloomberg is doing quite well.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020

That's about all I see, personally. That's all that is "new" about these results, in any event.

Now, please share. Tell us what you think.



-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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