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Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:33 PM

 

Biden's rivals in Iowa are starting to release their own caucus results showing him in 'distant 4th


The campaigns of Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Amy Klobuchar all indicated Tuesday that their internal campaign data show former Vice President Joe Biden finished fourth in Monday night's Iowa caucus.

The Daily Beast reported that Warren's campaign went further and said he finished in a "distant" fourth place, claiming its internal data showed a three-way race between herself, former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, and Sanders.

"It's a mess," Warren campaign manager Roger Lau told reporters, according to Politico. "I think that every single second that passes where we don't get a final result is concerning."

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-iowa-caucus-4th-place-rivals-say-2020-2
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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:37 PM

1. Yep, numbers received from third parties or unofficial sources. "Internal campaign data"? Pretty...

 

....disingenuous tactics.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:40 PM

2. I don't know, George, by all accounts Biden underperformed last night.

 

Anecdotal evidence from multiple sources should him nonviable in many precincts, and now that's being backed up by internal data from several campaigns. Even Elizabeth Warren alluded to a three-way race while campaigning in New Hampshire today.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:50 PM

8. Considering all the hype about a "massive grassroots organization"....

 

....we've heard about from the Sanders campaign, regardless of the results this is a hugely disappointing caucus for Sanders, the lowest turnout since 2000 in a contested caucus.

2004 - 45%
2008 - 57%
2012 - uncontested
2016 - 44%
2020 - 35%
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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:54 PM

9. We should all be rooting for a high voter turnout.

 

I'm sorry Biden didn't get as much support as he and his supporters would have liked.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:42 PM

5. Considering from multiple parties

 

Maybe not too far fetched to say Biden might not have done so hot. But yeah, with no actual data, we can say Beyonce won and it would believable....
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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:40 PM

3. My independent data shows a Sander's complete collapse

 

See I can pull stuff outta my ass to.
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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:41 PM

4. Are you suggesting the Warren campaign is "pulling stuff out of its ass?"

 

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:48 PM

6. I actually feel for joe now

 

Had the results came out last night, Joe could have said, “well we learned a lot and we are going to implement some changes to make us more competitive in upcoming states.” And it would have gotten some attention, but now everyone will be paying attention and ultimately will make iowa’s Results look huge compared to just a being first state.
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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:59 PM

10. LOL Iowa results are even huger than before? Are they off somewhere bulking up? Ready to Hulk smash!

 

Iowa is over. It fizzled away it's impact. Everyone has moved on to the next shiny thing.

More competitive in upcoming states? Outside wee NH Joe is leading in the next states. Ahead in both Nevada and South Carolina.

Feel that.
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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:00 PM

11. You make me feel better. I love this place.

 

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:50 PM

7. Klobuchar's report is significant.

 

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:15 PM

12. So this caucus thing shits the bed and then the stock market rises. What's up with that?

 

Somebody is happy with the results
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Response to Baclava (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:58 PM

13. Maybe it benefits Bloomberg. I'm sure the Wall St crowd would love a Bloomberg vs Trump election.

 

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 04:00 PM

14. Never thought of that! You could be onto something there n/t

 

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