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Jose Garcia

(2,698 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:54 AM Jan 2020

Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states

DES MOINES, Iowa — The controversial talking points attacking Elizabeth Warren that Bernie Sanders' campaign deployed were given to teams in at least two early voting states on Friday, three Sanders campaign officials confirmed.

Volunteers and staffers used the script on Saturday while canvassing for votes, meaning the talking points were more official than what Sanders previously suggested after POLITICO reported on the language.

The campaign pulled back the script — which described Warren's appeal as limited to the highly educated and financially well off — later on Saturday after the story published. Sanders initially appeared to blame the controversy on rogue employees.

“We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldn’t,” Sanders said Sunday in Iowa. His press aides never denied the veracity of the document.

More: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/14/sanders-admits-anti-warren-script-early-states-098786

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Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jan 2020 OP
THIS! Ninga Jan 2020 #1
Sigh. It's always the bros. Squinch Jan 2020 #2
So were they supposed to be praising her? Is babylonsister Jan 2020 #3
No. But they didn't have to take a potshot at her electability and blm Jan 2020 #4
How is this diminishing her supporters? babylonsister Jan 2020 #6
I agree the conflict was exaggerated, especially by media. Treating blm Jan 2020 #7
I agree with you. JudyM Jan 2020 #9
So the lying about it and attempt to paint it as a fake document is all just part of the game? MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #5
+1000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #10
Indeed. ehrnst Jan 2020 #13
This goes to character. Who do we want to elect? Mike 03 Jan 2020 #17
That is not the question. Sanders stated it was a rogue employee and then stated even Warren has to Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #19
All Hands On Deck Full Alert colsohlibgal Jan 2020 #8
+10000000000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #11
Well now. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #12
Sorry, the rogue worker excuse won't work this time out peggysue2 Jan 2020 #14
Wasn't Sanders denying this yesterday? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #15
Attributing it to "one of hundreds of employees" that "sometimes do something wrong." ehrnst Jan 2020 #16
I can not believe there are so many Sanders supporters defending and attacking Warren, Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #18
KR! Cha Jan 2020 #20
 

Squinch

(51,314 posts)
2. Sigh. It's always the bros.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jan 2020
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babylonsister

(171,257 posts)
3. So were they supposed to be praising her? Is
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jan 2020

this not part of campaigning for prez? Controversial talking points, oh my!

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blm

(113,368 posts)
4. No. But they didn't have to take a potshot at her electability and
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jan 2020

diminish her supporters as if we are thoughtless voters, babysis.

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babylonsister

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6. How is this diminishing her supporters?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jan 2020
In Warren's case, they stated that the “people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what” and that “she's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

And FTR, it was an equal opportunity criticism, she wasn't the lone ranger.

The script mostly focused on Sanders' ability to beat President Donald Trump in a general election. But one page included attacks on the electability of Warren, as well as Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg.

I think everyone is making mountains out of molehills here, but that's just my opinion.
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blm

(113,368 posts)
7. I agree the conflict was exaggerated, especially by media. Treating
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jan 2020

Warren supporters as if their support is meaningless in that script is wrongheaded. Many working class people support Warren, too, but the Sanders camp prefers the voters believe that Warren supporters are elitists. That was piggybacking on the earlier attacks by Biden camp.

Warren is not an elitist. Warren’s platform is not elitist. Warren supporters are not elitist.

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JudyM

(29,424 posts)
9. I agree with you.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jan 2020

Let’s focus on the issues, people, instead of overhyped campaign drama.

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MrsCoffee

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5. So the lying about it and attempt to paint it as a fake document is all just part of the game?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jan 2020

Sanders himself tried to pretend it was some rogue employees who shouldn’t be saying those things.

In reality it turns out it was just more underhanded factionalism. We don’t need that crap right now.




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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. Indeed.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jan 2020

Rogue staffers.... Nothing goes out without Bernie's approval, even emails.

He's a micromanager, and nothing changes that, no matter how frantically his staff tries to cover the quarterback....

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Mike 03

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17. This goes to character. Who do we want to elect?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jan 2020

I want someone truthful, and who can own mistakes and apologize for them. Not another "other-blamer." Those are red flags.

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Bummfuzzle

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19. That is not the question. Sanders stated it was a rogue employee and then stated even Warren has to
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jan 2020

deal with that in her own 500 staff.

Two days later we learn it is organized, in multiple states, scripted.

Why did Sanders state it was a rogue employee when he knew better?

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colsohlibgal

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8. All Hands On Deck Full Alert
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jan 2020

We need to defeat the stupid Orange Tyrant. Bernie people need to vote for Warren if she gets the nomination, Warren people need to vote for Bernie if he gets it. Fans of both of them, and I’m one of them, need to vote for Biden if he gets the nod. We need to vote for Bloomberg or Steyer if they buy their way in.

Not the time for temper tantrums, we are in a serious crisis, we need to beat that idiot so badly that makes it harder for him to dispute it. Virtually anyone would be preferable to that Orange Criminal.

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peggysue2

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14. Sorry, the rogue worker excuse won't work this time out
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jan 2020

This crap is deja vu for many, so the 2020 excuses and tap dance do not work. The Senator from Vermont presumably doesn't have control over his own campaign which does not say anything positive on his personal leadership skills. Or, we can conclude the scripts and disparaging remarks/attitudes about Warren were given the nod from Sanders himself.

He and his surrogates stepped in it. Hand-waving and outraged denial aren't going to do it this time.

Been there, done that.

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The Valley Below

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15. Wasn't Sanders denying this yesterday?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jan 2020

Disturbing!

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ehrnst

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16. Attributing it to "one of hundreds of employees" that "sometimes do something wrong."
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

Not so much....

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/12/warren-disappointed-bernie-volunteers-097984

but.......... LOOK OVER THERE AT WARREN - SHE'S LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bummfuzzle

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18. I can not believe there are so many Sanders supporters defending and attacking Warren,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jan 2020

saying she is a liar, when the same day it came out Sanders lied about the script blaming it on a rogue campaigner. It was a campaign decision to do this in multiple states, organized, scripted.

And we are spending the time questioning or accusing Warren of being a liar.

A woman. While the man is not being called a liar.

How does that consistently happen.

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