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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

 

Hate to tell Bernie that ...

15 bucks an hour is not heaven, if everyone in your family including the kids is making 15 bucks an hour you might be able to afford a 2-3 bedroom apartment[2 of the three youngest sleeping in one of the bedrooms]..with Walmart food, and kohlís half price clothing...and a 10-15 yr old car...
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:24 PM

1. $15 is for a *minimum* wage.

 

Right now, the federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Raising it to $15 would help millions of people. Obviously, $15/hr isn't enough, and Bernie recognizes that, which is why he supports a variety of policies that would aim to increase wages for 99% of Americans.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

7. Thought that would have been OBVIOUS to people.

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:25 PM

2. Get your point, but there are plenty of places where a working couple can

 

live decently on $60,000. Not lavish, for sure.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:32 PM

6. After taxes and insurance costs...around 20,000 a year

 

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Response to pbmus (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

9. After tax for a couple making $60K is a lot more than $20K. Check your math.

 

Yah, if you are living by yourself, on $20 K, itís tough. That why we had roommates in the 60s. It sucked unl as you had a good one, but thatís how most people live around the world.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

10. Ok, 40000, check your numbers for family of 4-5 to live in USA

 

https://www.cnbc.com õ 2018/03/15 õ how-much-a-4-person-family-needs...
Mar 15, 2018 - The cost of raising a family looks very different depending on where you are. It will cost you about $58,906 a year to raise a four-person family in Brownsville, Texas, for example, but if you move to San Francisco, California, that expense more than doubles, to $148,439.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/15/how-much-a-4-person-family-needs-to-live-in-the-15-biggest-us-cities.html
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Response to pbmus (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:41 PM

11. I'd suggest budgeting for children. And perhaps moving if one is in SF.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

12. 😝 LoL

 

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

3. He doesn't even pay his own staffers $15 an hour. In theory he pays them that much....

 

....for a 40-hour week, but they're expected to work 50-60 hours a week.

$31,000 is $15 an hour for a 40 hour week.
$31,000 is $12 an hour for a 50 hour week.
$31,000 is $10 an hour for a 60 hour week.
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

4. Of course that's true, but with the min. wage At $7.50, you really can't mandate it be increased

 

more than $15. That DOUBLE! Very few small businesses would be able to afford more, and some won't be able to handle $15! It's a much better idea to raise the min. wage every year or two.
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:31 PM

5. If you have 4 people earning $15/hr...

 

and working full time, that's over $120K/yr.
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

8. Hillary spoke about a $15 min wage. The Obama then Trump voters

 

in the heartland wanted their $35/hr jobs back. They were not interested in anything minimum wage. Trump promised to stop illegal immigrants which translated to higher wages in the minds of some. Has not happened. Working people are fighting inflation on their own by not getting wage increases. That helps rich people do well with a long boom. Workers have not seen wage increases in this workers market. That should have the heartland hopping mad.
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Response to applegrove (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:27 AM

13. Hillary spoke on a 12 dollars an hour

 

get your facts straight!





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Response to billpolonsky (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:31 AM

14. A $15 minimum wage was in the 2016 party platform.

 

She ran on $15 in the general election.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:36 AM

15. Thanks.

 

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Response to applegrove (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:42 AM

16. You're welcome.

 

Many people don't seem to know this. Sigh.
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:28 AM

17. You better have a lot of family members living in that place if you're in NY or CA or DC, etc

 

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:53 AM

18. Depends where you live.

 

After deducting for taxes and Social Security, a full-time worker earning $15 an hour can afford to move into a one bedroom apartment in my apartment complex. While the complex is about 40 years old, the apartments are well-maintained and has fairly new appliances. The neighborhood is nice and reasonably quiet (other than the occasional ambulance since I'm about a half-mile away from a hospital). Rent would equal to about one-third of take home pay.

Two workers making that pay rate could get a two bedroom apartment and the rent would be less than 25% of their pay.

Don't know if a car note on top everything else would be affordable, but if you're in most urban areas then public transportation should be an option.
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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:05 AM

19. What do you think the Federal minimum wage should be? nt.

 

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