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Undecided 45%
Elizabeth Warren20%
Joe Biden15%
Bernie Sanders9%
Pete Buttigieg6%

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

 

DEBATE THREAD #2

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

1. Thanks! My scrolling finger was getting numb. 😄

 

And yes, build on that ACA!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

2. Bernie totally ducked the issue regarding the cost of his Medicare Plan...

 

...but then he is happy to attack the costs of everyone else's plans.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

6. Why didn't someone call him out. nt

 

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

46. Someone Is Looking Really, Really Annoyed and Glaring...

 

...if you watched this debate, and I asked you who looked visibly angry with everyone else in the room complete with pulsing temples and pounding the podium, I think it would be clear.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

3. You know, I'm beginning to think patching together the candidates' best responses on these topics in

 

all the debates might be better than too many debates.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

4. Build on the ACA dammit !!! nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

5. Loved Klobuchar's line about Trump being much less popular than Obamacare.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

7. I am enjoying this debate.

 

They seem to not be hellbent on tearing each other apart.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

8. Klobuchar is giving concrete details and straightforward strategy

 

She's doing a great job, imo
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Amy Klobuchar

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

12. She is a lot more specific rather than throwing out platitudes.

 

I like that she is calling out Bernie for absolutely refusing to lay out how his plan pencils out. Warren addresses costs, so I give her a lot of credit of being upfront with the American people so they can make a choice.

Maybe Bernie will just say that Mexico will pay for it like Trump did. Notably, Bernie is not making any effort do disagree that his plan is $20 or $30 million.

I think Warren is awesome is painting the choice. She does acknowledges that Biden/Kloch/Buttiegieg's plans will improve healthcare and cost less, but they don't do as much as what she is proposing.

That is being honest and trustworthy.

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Undecided

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

14. as she usually does.

 

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Undecided

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

18. Amy is KILLING IT! Mayor Pete is also doing well. nt

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

31. I'm liking a Klobuchar more and more.....nt

 

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

29. As always

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Amy Klobuchar

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

9. What Is Steyer's Point?

 

He spoke and I am not sure where he is. Is he pro-Medicare for all? Anti-Government involvement.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

22. Spending too much because corps own the system.

 

Cruelty for money. Have to break corp stranglehold.

Term limits.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

23. That we all agree affordable healthcare is a right and we have been working on this too long

 

and can't get anything done due to structural corruption in government, and ownership of the system by corporations.

I don't think his answer was as clear as it could be for someone not familiar with his positions.

Healthcare - favors a public option - https://www.tomsteyer.com/the-right-to-health-care/

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Tom Steyer

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Response to MH1 (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

42. Yeah, I did not get that.

 

He sort of agreed with Bernie (which was easy because Bernie just offered a generalized greed is bad), but that left me with is Steyer in favor of Medicare for all, then he also agreed with Biden.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

45. I think his main point was that the corporate ownership of government, blocking ANY fix,

 

is probably more significant than the differences between the various plans of the people on that stage.

With that as his main point, he didn't really get specific about where he stands on specific plans.
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Tom Steyer

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Response to MH1 (Reply #45)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:11 PM

78. I thought it was his best moment.

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

10. I understand about 40% of Iowa voters

 

are undecided.
This debate is solid and answers comprehensive and in-depth and views made clear.
I hope they are carefully listening
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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Ninga (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

13. I agree

 

This is a good debate thus far. We do have some excellent candidates.
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Joe Biden

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Response to Ninga (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

26. I think it's 46% are undecided, FWIW.

 

Honestly, it's a minor caucus, but I know it's the first so it gets way too much attention.

I don't think anyone has thus far changed any minds. Nothing stands out as new or fresh, and there's way too little about beating Trump thus far. Iowa Democrats care about electing someone who can beat Trump.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

11. Thanks for doing this!

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

15. Warren is impressing me tonight

 

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Undecided

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Response to lunasun (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

19. Yes, we need Medicare For All

 

I prefer going for it from the start, but I see circumstances where Warrenís idea could work. They are all doing pretty well IMO.
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Response to mvd (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

36. Oh, and the fact is administrative costs would be so much lower

 

An initial investment is well worth bringing us up with the rest of the developed world.
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Response to mvd (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:08 PM

77. Yes! Medicare has the lowest cost per claim in the industry

 

no advertising for one thing; no obscenely paid CEOs either.

Also fastest claim turnaround and lowest error percentage in the industry.
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Response to lunasun (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

21. Agree. I like how she can disagree using facts....

 

...rather than sitting their looking like she is going to burst a blood vessel. She is both empathic while also being a policy wonk.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

16. Insurance companies are the problem!

 

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

86. Republicans are the problem.

 

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

91. Yes, for-profit entities that arose to fulfill a need -

 

To implement the republican ptb plan to make something ($$) out of nothing. They bilked society. Got society to believe that HMOs were good for us!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

17. Tom Steyer

 

looks like he's doing an infomercial.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

32. It's because someone told him to look at the camera and not the person asking the question.

 

It's weird to me, but it seems to have resonated with some.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

52. Oh yes

 

That is exactly what I was picturing, some adviser telling him to do that. It does look weird. Most of the others look at the moderator and then look to the audience, less awkward looking.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #52)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

55. He's turning it into a commercial moment.

 

Watch. It'll be showing up in his ads. He's ok, but I'm not leaning his way in the primary at all. He's just not my flavor. 😑
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Response to herding cats (Reply #55)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

59. Good point

 

I know what you mean. I have no problem with what he says, but as you say, "he's just not my flavor". I really don't want a businessman/woman as a president.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

49. He's OK he has some good ideas like removing public education from property tax for equality

 

He is a business man so he probably realizes that would be a good investment (in humans)
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Response to lunasun (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

53. Oh, I have no problem with what he said

 

He just looked odd the way he quickly turned to the camera, like he was doing one of his political ads.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #53)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

65. Not a relaxed politician that is for sure !

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

20. I think they are all doing well tonight.

 


I think they are drawing distinctions well.
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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

27. Except for Steyer and Bernie...

 

...the more Steyer talks, the less I know about where he actually stands. Bernie looks angry, talks platitudes, and seems annoyed with questions, but is happy to attack everyone. He offers a non-answer, then pivots to yelling about greed being bad.

Ugh. Steyer is now agreeing with Bernie's statement that greed and corporations being bad. Okay, so the billionaire is also against greed and corporations.

This just show the non-answers being offered by Bernie when Steyer of all people can totally agree with what Bernie just said.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

38. Agreed. I'll vote for anyone of them who wins the nomination.

 

They're all leaps and bounds above Trump.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

24. Uh, oh

 

Bernie just put his hand behind his ear because he couldn't hear the question. The gesture of an old person. Not a good look. He's somewhat subdued and off his game tonight.
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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

28. I could say that Biden looks ancient tonight

 

But I donít want to dwell on it. I donít want to weaken any candidate even if they are not my choice. Bernie is doing well IMO.
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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

30. Inoticed he was straining to hear the questions all night. Leaning forward, and reading lips!

 

We all know what that means.
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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:20 PM

34. I do that sometimes

 

But I've been hard of hearing since I was a child.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

43. I've been hard of hearing since Led Zeppelin

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to blm (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

54. That might do it!!!

 

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Response to blm (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

58. Lucky you..

 

Majority of my loss is just local cover bands!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

25. Bernie's response to what happens o all the employees in HC ins. industry was bad.

 

There must be many thousands of employees that would be affected by medicare for all as he plans it. Just providing a supplement for their wages for 5 years isn't a good answer.


IMO someone will still have to process necessary paperwork, ie: which hospital, what treatments, etc. Why not say those workers would simply get a different employer, the Gov't instead of the ins/ co.
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Response to napi21 (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:12 PM

80. The reason administrative costs are lower is fewer people are needed than under the current system

 

If there was an immediate change, some might be needed for the government plan.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #80)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:16 PM

82. Of course fewer people would be needed, but Bernie hould have said that! All those thousands

 

of ins. employees will be voting against him for not saying that.
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Response to napi21 (Reply #82)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:18 PM

83. Agree, I think I misinterpreted your comment

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:20 PM

33. Warren Is Answering Questions Heads On

 

Blitzer is asking a question, and she is actually addressing it, rather than just ignoring it, and saying "Greed is bad."

I appreciate her courage and willingness to engage and educate.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

35. Shes been impressive

 

Her many years as a teacher and professor shows in her performance.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

40. I Am Also Appreciating Amy Klochbar's Policy Chops...

 

...I think Warren is better in breaking down her explanations, but Amy also shows a solid command of the issues.

I think it does a disservice to just go Trump-like and offer "Drain the Swamp" "Greed is bad" platitudes and anger. Hearing Warren and Klochbar talk and disagree makes me feel like there is a substantive debate to be had with choices and many ways to solve the problem.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

47. I agree

 

I think Amy shows more of her political expertise and Warren shows her policy-wonk side. And yes it is a substantive debate and these women came prepared.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

37. and got applause.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

39. I hate to say this but, just how much can Warren get out of that 2 cent tax? She keeps saying

 

more & more things will be paid for with it.
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Response to napi21 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

50. She'd get a lot more if she made it 5

 

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Response to napi21 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

51. Ending the tax cuts plus the 2% wealth tax that

 

they canít deduct their way out of.

Ending the corporate loopholes where they end up paying no tax at all.

On Med4All, you might want to read why this healthcare CEO says Warrenís plan will work.

https://www.telegram.com/news/20191207/umass-ceo-eric-dickson-backs-medicare-for-all-calls-plan-bold-courageous?
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Response to napi21 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

88. I find it patently irresponsible of her

 

to continue with these pie in the sky promises especially for the youngest, most inexperienced voters. Even if she really has a viable plan for everything she claims - she'd be lucky to pass, pay for, and implement even one of her lofty plans. We lose many of these new voters when they find out there was never a chance to have it all in the first place.

I think she (and Sanders) needs to come clean.
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Response to napi21 (Reply #39)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:54 AM

92. 2 percent. A lot. It is very sensible

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

41. I still like Warren best, followed closely by Bernie, then Buttigieg.

 

And that is how I will be voting in my state's primary.

HOWEVER,

ANY ONE of these candidates would be a huge improvement over Trump.

But....GO Elizabeth!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

44. I'm all about the 'moderates' as they don't mention the word free every other word. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

48. Agreed!! nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

56. I Like This Number for the Debate...

 

...I don't want it down too much before the primaries, but having 10 plus on stage was really unwieldy. It also forces the participants to actually be a little more substantive, which I think goes to the strength of Warren and Klochbar. You can't just hide behind a generalization as you could when there are more people on stage.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #56)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:39 PM

57. That is true

 

We have an opportunity to really listen to the candidates and get a feel for who they are.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

60. Congrats and thanks to our candidates...

 

I have to turn in, but I think they all did very well tonight. They were professional, well-informed, and excellent at communicating.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

61. "Collectively the men on this stage have lost TEN elections"-Sen Warren

 

While Warren never lost an election and beat republicans.

I rest my case.
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Response to at140 (Reply #61)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

64. Same with Klobuchar, I think.

 

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Response to elleng (Reply #64)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

67. Yes, Warren said the 2 women on stage won all their elections

 

She said it goodnaturedly and it diffused the underlying tension the media had been fueling. Well done, IMO.
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Response to blm (Reply #67)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:08 PM

75. Geez I'm dumb. Right over my head nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

62. Amy gave an excellent answer on free college tuition for all.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

63. Most of them are doing well but no one is standing out for me in this debate

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #63)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

66. I don't think that debates really matter.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #66)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

68. Certainly not these early debates.

 

Even the presidential ones have a much smaller reach than they used to.

Debates are now, in my opinion, just for we wonks. Little more at this stage in our society.

Look at the subject matter... it's entirely MSM making a case to divide us. Nothing about our Democracy being at stake, or Trump's authoritarian overreach. This feels so fake to me.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #68)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:47 PM

89. I agree...and how could they not ask about the possibility that Trump ordered the murder of

 

an American ambassador? It is breaking news.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #89)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:34 AM

93. Even the other articles of his impeachment are mostly ignored.

 

All they seem to care about are the things they feel might be used to divide we Democrat's. It all feels so manufactured to me.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #93)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:23 PM

94. It was all about dividing us...who's side are they one?

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #66)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

69. They don't because most Americans are NOT watching this tonight...AT ALL. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #69)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

87. I thought that they were kind of boring...not enough time to answer the question.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #66)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

90. Doesn't matter for those whose minds are made up. On the other hand...

 

Made a new friend last week with a registered Independent. She admitted she hasn't yet tuned in to the Democratic candidates, but her brother had convinced her that she needs to get up to speed fast because the country is at an "all hands on deck" point in history.

I recommended she watch the debates tonight as a starting point to educating herself. Just got a phone call from her and she said she watched the whole thing. Admitting that she has not a clue about anyone's background on the stage, her initial impression from just what was said tonight was as follows:

Elizabeth Warren most closely spoke to my new friend's own concerns and she was impressed with Warren's ability to directly answer questions with policy initiatives rather than rhetoric. She also expressed an interest in learning more about Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg.

I asked her what she thought of the other candidates and she said, "Old white men got us into this mess. Old white men aren't going to get us out of it."

Just thought some here might appreciate how someone with no preconceived notions about specific candidates came away with what they saw and heard tonight.

Agreed that the debates don't really matter for those of us whose minds are already made up. But for those just now tuning in...it seems to be a different story.



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Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #90)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:27 PM

95. You had me until the old white men comment...have a nice day.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #95)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 06:48 PM

96. Yeah, I know...wasn't my own comment.

 

Just reporting first impressions of a registered Independent who has not voted for many years and just had her first serious look at the Democratic field.

I know it hurts to hear the "old white man" trope (especially if that descriptor applies to ourselves, our spouses, or our own chosen candidate), but pretending that it's not a factor for others who need to be motivated to get to the ballot box doesn't help anyone.

Am doing GOTV three times a week in a purple state. If I ran away every time I heard that one, my God, I'd be hiding under my bed sobbing hysterically. Luckily, I'm educated enough to be able to speak to that trope...and to understand the difference between someone telling me that is how they feel versus someone telling me this is what they are hearing others say.
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Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #96)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:21 PM

97. I wouldn't have posted it and I expect the person you spoke with was trolling you.

 

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99. You are very rude...honestly I don't want to talk to you...enjoy your stay.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #99)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:06 PM

100. Wow! I guess you touched a nerve, eh?

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #100)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:29 PM

101. I must of...and then some...lord...

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

70. Buttigieg: A military veteran vs "bone spurs"...

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

72. I really love Pete Buttigieg...man can he give it. nt

 

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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

71. Good comments from Pete on religion.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

73. That was a good answer by Klobuchar about how she would handle Trump

 

I said I really disliked some of her answers (especially on health care) so want to give her credit. When I say something about a candidate, it is meant to be constructive. One time I even got on Bernie for being spaced out before a question. This election is too important not to suggest improvements and too important to tear down candidates.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

74. Biden next to last in total speaking time...

 


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Response to brooklynite (Reply #74)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:08 PM

76. This debate will help Biden more than hurt him. But we've had way too many debates.

 

They're getting so damn boring.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #76)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:12 PM

79. Biden just finished good about meeting trump on the economy . Not boring to me yet

 

I am truly undecided perhaps that is why
Any one of them over trump of course
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #76)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:25 PM

84. I didn't want to be the one to say it, but I agree

 

It wasn't' a bad debate but nothing really grabbed my attention. I missed most of the first half so maybe that's why I just couldn't get into it.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #84)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:28 PM

85. I watched all of it but I ended up pedaling away half the time, as much to keep myself awake as for

 

the exercise.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #74)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:16 PM

81. Biden Actually Did Better Then I Expected, Since I Was...

 

...expecting him to mostly try to skate by with his nice grandpa persona, but he did actually delve into the substantive details. He certainly is not going into the weeds like Amy and Liz, but he was making an effort to be on point and responsive.
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