Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIn November, Joe Biden called Elizabeth Warren "representative of an elitism".
Can the faux outrage stop now?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/joe-biden-elizabeth-warren.html
Some call it the my way or the highway approach to politics, Mr. Biden, the former vice president, wrote in a Medium post. But its worse than that. Its condescending to the millions of Democrats who have a different view. Its representative of an elitism that working and middle-class people do not share: We know best; you know nothing. If you were only as smart as I am you would agree with me. This is no way to get anything done.
Mr. Biden repeated similar arguments in a fund-raising email and at a fund-raiser in Pittsburgh on Tuesday, escalating tensions between the two top-polling contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination. He did not mention his rival by name, but the message was unmistakably aimed at Ms. Warren, whose Republican critics have for years sought to paint her as an out-of-touch liberal who worked as a Harvard professor.
Ms. Warren is running as a corruption-battling economic populist, and her campaign has emphasized that she grew up in Oklahoma on the ragged edge of the middle-class. Her campaign declined to comment on Mr. Bidens remarks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)People have lost their damn minds.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,155 posts)According to the article below, while he did not name her directly, he implied he was referring to her, and didn't directly call her "elitist", but said she employed a condescending approach to politics that smacks of elitism.
https://apnews.com/b491ca4f60f04b55903cf7f3c1df6371
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=419044
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,047 posts)that she let slide.
People dont know that September and October come before November? Heck, in September Grover Norquist was applauding Biden for attacking Warren with GOP talking points.
Then there are his October attack that she's "trying to con the American people"
Biden rips Warren's credibility after contentious Democratic debate
Trevor Hunnicutt
4 MIN READ
COLUMBUS, Ohio (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden questioned surging rival Elizabeth Warrens credibility on Wednesday, accusing her of failing to be open with voters about how she would pay for her ambitious Medicare for All healthcare proposal.
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Biden said it was absolutely ridiculous that Warren would not delve into the details of her healthcare proposal, drawing a comparison to Trump.
The last thing the Democrats should be doing is playing Trumps game and trying to con the American people to think this is easy. Theres nothing easy about it, he said.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)almost anyone with strong views.
I certainly never heard Warren say anyhing approximating "We know best; you know nothing."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,047 posts)on her is completely bogus because she is the one MOST willing to hear and acknowledge new facts and information and adjust accordingly. Her years of performing deep research sharpened her in this regard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)A senator of many many many years, vice president and an inside the beltway favorite. Biden definitionally elitist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SmallDonor
(30 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tirebiter
(2,536 posts)will be having a lot of traffic, for sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)"Elitism" is a word Republicans use to suggest that someone is too well read to be easily absorbed by Republican autocratic methods. It works on Republicans who prefer compliance and obedience among their groups. They don't like to be challenged.
If you really had to go there, all candidates think they know best, because that's what presidential candidates do. They build their own platforms and try to convince you that they are right and nobody else is.
Frankly, this is kind of a losing proposition for Biden who has been pushing Daddy-knows-bests Centrist ideas that have taken the Democratic positions backwards.
And Bernie? I'm just not seeing where he's coming from, since he and Elizabeth Warren both have similar backgrounds. What exactly makes him non-elitist? His gun policy?
If Elizabeth Warren stands out it's because she's going after one of the last sacred cows in America: Wall Street. If our society appears lopsided it's because we still have organizations that are allowed to cheat to create false economies that benefit a few at the expense of many. It doesn't make any fucking sense to me how you can hit everyone over the head with the virtues of capitalism, expecting everyone to be self-reliant and independent, when you have the one vehicle for investments and savings so volatile as Wall Street has been since the eighties. She is fighting for everyone's American Dream. And that seems to scare people. Why? There are more of us, than they are of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)You are literally trying to deflect from Sanders highly unethical campaign of dishonest attacks.
So many people weren't ok with a couple of things Biden and Warren said back and forth to one and other.
Neither Biden or Warren have sent out top campaign staff to make up horrendous lies about their opponents, trash the Democratic Party, or surround themselves by Trump enablers.
You just can't be serious with this blatant deflection.
Has the Sanders campaign every compared one of Bidens policies to the 9-11 terrorist attack? That is the level of sickness and historical context we are talking about. Its a feature, not a bug.
Not to mention your own topic line is dishonest. Why didn't you include the word "It's" in your quote? It would have made it more accurate, you had room, and it's necessary to be honest and ethical.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden