This is Why Bernie will Beat Trump like Many Hammers on Many Piano Strings!

[JoeOtterbein]

Day after day we see proof right here on DU from a very unlikely source; Dems who are solidly against Bernie.

Almost everyone of us on DU have proclaimed, like me to vote for whoever wins our Primary. But many of us who oppose Bernie will often post positive support from non-Dems about what they like about Bernie.

This is a great thing for Bernie. Not a bad thing.

It's hard for most of us political junkies, like myself, to imagine that most people don't care or even hear what we think about any of our candidates. What they do hear is when say, a former supporter of Trump, or even worse to some a Jill Stein supporter, proclaim they like Bernie or Joe or whoever.

Night after night I read posts here on DU extolling some actress or other Bernie supporter who vocally voted for someone other than a Dem in 2016.

Thanks all! This is why I know Sen. Sanders will be our 46th POTUS!!!!

Now, please have fun today and tomorrow my dear Dem friends. Because I know I will!!!!!!!!

[msongs]

1. you mean the guy who couldnt get more votes than hillary? nt

[brooklynite]

65. No, you're thinking of the guy who can't get more votes than Sanders...

January 2016: 39-41%
January 2020: 17-23%

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread JoeOtterbein.

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Like the song says;

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[DonaldsRump]

5. When Bernie becomes the DEMOCRATIC Senator from Vermont

perhaps then I'll begin to even consider him.

I simply cannot understand how he can run as the Democratic Party's nominee for President and not declare himself as a D.

Until then, Uncle Joe's the one!

[JoeOtterbein]

6. You will love Bernie!

Because he will beat Trump, and you will know why way ahead of time!

And we will party like.......

YIPPEE!!!!

[samnsara]

18. seriously??? you are telling ME i am going to LOVE bernie???

..no one tells me who to love. Frankly i cant tolerate the man...yet another old white guy wagging his finger at me..nope.



I WILL vote for him if hes the nom but LOVE him?? never.

the question is..will YOU vote for the Dem nom? even if is not your person? The answer MUST be YES.

[JoeOtterbein]

23. One person's vote is love enough for...

...me! Yippee!!!

[samnsara]

53. 'yippee'?

[highplainsdem]

21. No. Never. I'll hold my nose and vote for him if he's the nominee, but I don't think I'll have to

worry about doing that, since he won't be the nominee.

I will worry about Bernie supporters suffering from the. um, misunderstanding (more polite word than I first thought of) that people who aren't Bernie supporters and really hope he won't be the nominee will somehow come to "love Bernie."

Not happening.

[JoeOtterbein]

24. A vote is all I need to love about...

...anyone!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Bernie grows on people... a few of my relatives who weren't quite sure about Bernie a few months ago

took the time to listen to his stump speeches & found him to be sincere, honest, and willing to work hard to earn their respect and their vote. That's the trait of a good leader with vision, who can change hearts and minds... that's Bernie!!

I'm proud to say they've climbed aboard the "Bernie Bandwagon"... not only that, they've signed on to the Bernie10/10 plan that I created... they each pledge to recruit 10 people to vote for Bernie, who in turn pledge to recruit 10 of their own Bernie voters. In this way, the Bernie vote will grow exponentially... like a raging river that grows out of a collection of individual rain drops!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[samnsara]

54. he grows on me like a wart

[LanternWaste]

62. Fungus grows on people too.

There are however, excellent salves which can remove athlete's foot so it doesn't become a more serious problem down the road.

[Gothmog]

50. You do know that there is a ton of great oppo out there on sanders?

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Trump would bury sanders with ads based on all of sanders speeches praising Fidel Castro, the old Soviet Union, bread lines, Central American socialist leaders who hated the United States, and sanders various essays. There are videos that would make great attack ads

No Democratic candidate has used this oppo on sanders because none of the candidates think that sanders has any chance of being the nominee.

As a personal matter, sanders would kill down ballot candidates and give control of the House to the GOP. I and other real Democrats have been working hard to turn Texas blue. If Biden is the nominee, Texas will be a battleground state. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win Texas easily and pick up a number of seats

[ehrnst]

56. ....

[LanternWaste]

61. Your t-shirt prophecies are becoming tedious at best.

We get it. Science and math use numbers, religious charlatans simply announce.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

7. So true Joe... those solidly against Bernie are consumed with him, yet they claim he can't win...

THAT'S TOO FUNNY!!! I mean, why would anyone spend SO MUCH TIME bashing a candidate that has no chance of winning?!?!

That tells you they Fear the Bern... and for good reason!! He's got the nomination all but sewn up!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[JoeOtterbein]

11. Have a little fun tonight my friend because in November you will need to save some of your...

...energy for a really big PARTY!!!!!!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. YOU KNOW IT!! AND OH WHAT A PARTY IT'LL BE!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[JoeOtterbein]

14. Please Add (two little emoji guys bumping some good...

...weed together!!!)

[TexasTowelie]

37. Why would anyone want to do that?

That would knock off the THC flavor crystals.

[JoeOtterbein]

63. LOL!!!!

Correct. Don't want that to happen again!!!!

[samnsara]

19. im not consumed with bs...just dont like him and am 100% sure he cant win

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Yeah, I hear ya... I feel the EXACT same way about Joe, as I'm 100% sure HE can't win.

And if I have to vote for Joe in November - as unlikely as that scenario may be - I certainly WILL vote for him, when you consider the alternative, President Pig Vomit, on the other side. That's a fairly easy decision.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[highplainsdem]

31. Fear the Bern? LOL. I'm bored as hell with him. I'll still vote for him if I have to, if he's the

nominee. But I don't think he will be.

For our party's sake, I hope he won't be. I don't want to lose to Trump.

[George II]

8. Sanders will never be in a position to run against trump.

[highplainsdem]

10. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

[TwilightZone]

9. "But many of us who oppose Bernie "

I'm guessing that you meant support and not oppose.

The visceral reaction to Jill Stein and her supporters is justified, as far as I'm concerned. She and they are part of how we ended up with Trump, particularly Stein and her both-sides nonsense and laughable claims that Clinton would start a nuclear war with Russia.

Placing some of her more prominent and vocal supporters high in any Democratic candidate's campaign was bound to generate a reaction. Some, and I include myself in that group, don't believe they belong anywhere near a Democratic campaign, and I don't believe that they are a positive for Senator Sanders. Obviously, you and your candidate disagree.

[JoeOtterbein]

13. No. Some of us Dems oppose Bernie now, but in November we will...

....Party Together!!!! Yippee!!!!

[highplainsdem]

17. We'll party in November because Biden will beat Trump.

[JoeOtterbein]

26. Ok with me and will be with....

....Bernie!!!!

(two little smiley emojis bumping something together!!!!)

[highplainsdem]

15. Joe, your OP is more than a little confusing. What I think you're saying is that because some

former Jill Stein supporters support Sanders, then somehow that means Sanders will not only get the nomination, but beat Trump.

I'll admit I don't follow the reasoning there.

You mentioned "some actress" -- if you mean Susan Sarandon, I really don't think her backing Sanders will sway any voters.

No one in their right mind would listen to someone who said Hillary Clinton was more dangerous than Trump.

[JoeOtterbein]

27. Or we could just be positive about Bernie because he will be...

...our nominee!

See? It's easy!!!

[betsuni]

32. Ah, you helped me understand, I didn't get it.

I saw a comment on Twitter today that Trump voters are just undereducated Bernie voters. That when Trump voters hear Bernie's stump speech they will understand that they have been voting against their own interests and join the class struggle.

I do not think this is correct.

[highplainsdem]

34. Newsweek: Bernie Sanders is Far More Popular With Voters Who Say They Aren't Paying Any Attention

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-far-more-popular-voters-who-say-they-arent-paying-any-1432110

Former Vice President Joe Biden shot well ahead of his nearest competitors for the 2020 Democratic nomination in the latest Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday, but Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has emerged as the candidate who's far more popular with voters that say they aren't paying attention.

-snip-

Among voters who have paid little or zero attention to the 2020 race, Sanders came out on top with 28 percent. Biden garnered 23 percent of support and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) came in at third place with six percent in the same category of respondents. An additional 22 percent said they didn't know which candidate to support.

Among voters who have paid some attention to the 2020 race, Biden was the number one pick, with 33 percent of votes. Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) followed behind in second and third place, garnering 19 percent and 16 percent, respectively.

Finally, among voters who have paid a lot of attention to the 2020 race, Biden remained in the top spot with an even higher result of 42 percent. The same category of individuals backed Warren for second place with 15 percent and Sanders fell to third, garnering eight percent among Americans that closely followed the presidential campaign.

-snip-

[JoeOtterbein]

39. Thanks for backing my reasoning about those who are not "paying attention" with snips that show...

...why Bernie will win most voters in November!

Yippee!!!!

[highplainsdem]

48. Are you suggesting that Bernie will win because most voters aren't paying attention?

That doesn't say much for your preferred candidate...or voters.

[betsuni]

51. Looks that way.

The American National Election Studies found Sanders supporters less interested in policy, he attracted support from those least involved in politics.

[samnsara]

16. why is it only bs supporters who have to blow trumpets and have the angels sing?

...spoiler alert: NOBODY IS THAT GOOD!!!! and no one is gonna have fun and throw daisies and skip thru unicorn poop with glitter and sparkles. These are serious times and maybe...just maybe bs wont win. the question is...will YOU vote for the Dem nom? We will have fun and tiptoe thru the tulip when trump is gone.

Remember....We are all on the same team.

[JudyM]

22. It'd be much nicer around here if it felt like we were all on the same team.

Folks ought to be able to be enthusiastic about their favorite candidate without getting torn apart for it. Playful banter or principled disagreement rather than evisceration (incessant bullying by a few folks) would support more of a team mentality. (And I’m not talking about you ) Just MHO.

Because whoever we end up putting up against trump is going to be carrying all our hopes. We shouldn’t have to work too hard mending fences among ourselves to rally together.

[JoeOtterbein]

40. Because Bernie is the ultimate Democratic...

...candidate!

And his supporters are not worried!

Yippee!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. Abso-fuckin-lutely!! Indeed, Bernie is a SUPER DEMOCRAT if you examine his voting record...

Bernie votes with his fellow Democrats FAR MORE OFTEN than the average Democrat.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[MrsCoffee]

20. You see what you wanna see I guess.

[JoeOtterbein]

29. Me loves some coffee and some...

...Bernie!!!

(little emoji guys bouncing in celebration!)

[Thekaspervote]

25. Thank goodness sanders will not be the nominee!!

[David__77]

28. I will vote for who I want to be president.

I want Sanders to be president and so will vote for him.

[still_one]

30. Not going to happen when his campaign strategy is to dis the DNC, and what he

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classifies as "establishment Democrats

In addition, hiring Jill Stein supporter Briana Joy Gray, and Hillary hating David Sirota, has the effect of burning a lot of bridges in the primary

[JoeOtterbein]

33. No worries!

All will be well, when Trump is in 2020 electoral hell!

[Thekaspervote]

35. Yes the EC... here's the latest maps. Sanders doesn't even hit 270

Link to tweet

?s=21

[greatauntoftriplets]

36. So you'll be dancing in the streets when the President-elect is...

Joe Biden?

[JoeOtterbein]

41. Yes! And dancing even when Joe is VP...

...with President Bernie!!!

(many little dancing emoji guys and gals!!!!)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. OK Joe, I finally have to disagree with you, sorry! Elizabeth will be Bernie's VP, read the sign...

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[xyoungblood]

38. My plan

I plan on voting for whoever wins the nomination. Period. Because as if you are labeled as a Dem or an Independent, I could care less, as long as there isn't an R next to your name. As for the silly infighting between the pro-Joe and the pro-Bernies, Do not glorify your political candidates because I can guarantee at some point your heroes will disappoint you. If they get into office, they will be forced into a political situation, where they have certain facts that you aren't privy to, and they will vote against your interests because life isn't rainbows and unicorns, its blood, sweat and a lot of tears.

Dems have spent the past 40 years giving away all of our power and gains because our leaders wanted to "get along" with the Republicans. As a gen-Xer I have fought for and watched all of my gains swept away because of the power of Boomer voting numbers, this is literally the first time in my 50 years that I see we actually have a chance to win and to keep winning. But I have also watched as election after election regardless of gerrymandering, close elections we could have won but Dem voters were just to busy to go and vote. Dems Always lose because other Dems don't vote. We need to have massive turnouts for the next 50+ years.

Vote to win no matter the candidate. That has always been the playbook of the republicans and that is why we have been in this mess for the past 40 years.

[JoeOtterbein]

42. + a googleplex!!!!

(the same number of dancing little emojis)

Yippee in November 2020!

[Gothmog]

44. If sanders is the nominee, trump will beat him just like Nixon beat McGovern

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[NYMinute]

49. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

?v=1489436645

[TidalWave46]

52. Sanders is a severely flawed candidate who can't win our primary.

He is so flawed that he cannot be vetted on DU as so much of his past is that offensive. Specially when it comes to his thoughts and interactions with women.

You skipped a major part of reality in order to lay out your dreams about beating Trump.

[ehrnst]

55. Magical thinking. It never fails!

Oh wait...

[katmondoo]

57. Oh!

[MrsCoffee]

58. Hear fishing is nice this time of year.

Hope more people discover this.

[NYMinute]

59. Beating Trump like a drum is better

D-R-U-M

Don't copy Biden by using other instruments.

[SKKY]

60. I think you're making one critical mistake in your assumption...

...which is you can't assume what you read on DU will translate to the general. Everyone on DU will vote, no doubt. But much of the electorate needs to be either inspired, or scared. While I argue that none of the candidates inspire (Obama set the bar way too high.), some may offer assurances to a scared electorate. And Biden, Mayor Pete, and/or Amy seem to be the more calming influences among the candidates left. With this upcoming election, we're just trying to get back to the baseline, and those three seem best suited to get us there. Of course, if we win the presidency, but not the Senate, well, I'm not sure how much will get done. That's why I've been saying for several months taking back the Senate, and holding the house, should be our play. If we do both of those, I couldn't care less who is President.

[LanternWaste]

64. Prophecies on a t-shirt mean so very little and slowly remove any remaining credibility.

But I get it... sacred cows demand we pretend our simple hopes, lacking any data to support them, is actually absolute knowledge, much as televangelists do.