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Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:21 PM

 

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Sorry, I find the insinuation that McConnell is only the way he is because of trump to be insulting.
Did he not live through years of this asshole doing everything in his power to subvert Obama and Democratsin general?!?

Biden predicts McConnell will become “mildly cooperative” with Democrats after Trump leaves office https://t.co/bk6SXlUcLf



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angrychair Jan 2020 OP
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:26 PM

1. THIS IS PRECISELY WHY JOE WON'T BE OUR NOMINEE... WISH JOE UNDERSTOOD RETHUGLIKKKONS ARE THE ENEMY!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:38 PM

9. That would not be very attractive in a president

 

We already have one who looks upon the opposition party, as well as the media as enemies. That's not how presidents are expected to behave.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:54 PM

13. +1000 PatSeg!

 

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:00 PM

17. Agreed.

 

A candidacy built on alienating as many people as possible doesn't seem likely to be successful.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:16 PM

19. And we only have to look to this White House

 

to confirm that.

This is about more than winning an election. The next president is going to have to mend fences worldwide and use diplomacy to win back our friends and allies. No one is going to take a petty, vindictive president seriously.

There are ways to deal with obstructionists and flame throwers in congress, but it needs to be in a statesman like fashion. I don't want another insulting, playground bully president, even if he/she agrees with me. I want my president to act like a president and be an example to my grandchildren.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:58 PM

24. I respectfully disagree... if this were NORMAL times, maybe, but not in this day and age.

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:35 PM

37. I would hate to see the Trump administration

 

become a precedent for future administrations, rather than the bizarre anomaly that it is. If we accept this as the new norm-slinging insults, win at all costs, and never give an inch-we will begin to resemble third world countries, where civility and decorum are cast aside to make room for political blood sport.

All the changes that you hope your candidate will accomplish will become faded dreams, not because they weren't feasible or doable, but because the democratic process requires time and reasonable compromise. We did not wake up one day and have Social Security or Medicare as we know them today. It took planning, negotiation, and great political skill to make them a reality.

We need our thinkers and idealists to inspire us to be better, but we also need our capable pragmatists to bring about a tangible version of those ideas. Lofty rhetoric and great ideas are part of the process, but they will only take us so far. Then the politicians have to do the dirty work and produce a real life manifestation of those dreams. Not everyone is going to like the end product, but it is a step forward, opening the way for many more steps.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:48 PM

50. This is admirable

 

I get your point.

To imply that consensus can be reached with McConnell or McCarthy or Graham is not only completely unsupported by almost a decade of experience but by their very own words and deeds from as recently as today.

I'm not against any candidate but I think its insulting that we would go groveling to McConnell and kissing his ass to get cooperation that he has absolutely no interest in giving.

President Obama, to his credit, genuinely tried. For all his efforts, McConnell gave him nothing and made sure to spit in his face on his way out the door (metaphorically of course - denying USSC nominee).

It would be great if it were better but that just isnt the cards we have been dealt.


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Response to angrychair (Reply #50)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:28 PM

57. Oh, I can't picture any of our candidates

 

groveling to the likes of McConnell or kissing his stupid ass. I honestly can't say I've ever seen anything quite like the way he has run the senate. His treatment of President Obama was appalling. I don't know if he can be dealt with on a reasonable level and I'm quite sure Joe Biden has no real illusions either, especially after all the years he watched McConnell obstruct the Obama administration. I think he was being diplomatic, but knows such compromise is highly unlikely.

I am hopeful that the voters will have had enough of this tyrant and that he will be "retiring" soon. I think a lot of the old guard in the house and senate have to go in order for us to recover from the Trump presidency and pass any meaningful legislation. We saw how far good intentions and high ideals got us with the nonstop obstruction during most of the Obama years.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:33 AM

76. Mitch was horrible during the Obama administration, too.

 

Are we just going to forget that? He will not work with Dems. To think he will is either obtuse or something much worse.
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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #76)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

77. It actually provides cover to McConnell for his senate race.

 

Lest we forget that he is on the ballot, too.

I don’t think Biden meant to do that, but that is an unfortunate result.
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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #76)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:59 AM

81. Yes he was

 

and I said so in the following comment. Also, I said that I didn't really think Biden thought compromise with McConnell was possible, but was being diplomatic, knowing that some day republicans will need to negotiate with Democrats. Also I think everyone knows that it is highly likely that McConnell will not be majority leader next year, perhaps not even Kentucky's senior senator.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:16 AM

84. No, it's offensive, and willfully ignorant as well.

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:56 PM

14. Thank goodness sanders will NOT be the nominee!!

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:13 PM

18. BiDeN wIlL bE oUr NoMiNeE!1!1!

 

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Response to George II (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

60. I see what you did there - nice message.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:20 AM

85. Ha, ha!

 

Well played!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:22 PM

33. It is why Joe will be our nominee...he has dealt with McConnell.

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:12 PM

40. I will be so disappointed, to the extreme, if Biden gets the nom. Nice guy and all but we live in a

 

different time than what he was used to. Go home Joe..
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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:37 PM

41. Wiser words have never been spoken!! "Disappointed to the extreme" indeed!!

 

But, the good news is, Joe will NOT be the nominee and you should take the daily attacks on Bernie as a GREAT sign that Joe and his supporters are feelin' the Bern and extremely worried what we all know... Bernie's got the big mo', and when he eventually teams up with Elizabeth, it's all over for Joe AGAIN... his THIRD try is definitely NOT the charm!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:52 PM

51. So what do we do with the cons, round them up and put them in prison? Mass extermination?

 

Exportation?

You see, the idea that a DEMOCRACY could do any of that is absurd, right? I know I couldnt do that, even if they are the worst humans on earth and they are.

So what is your plan if Bernie is elected, do we put them all in prison?
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:26 PM

2. I guess Joe's "No Malarkey" bus tour is over.

 

And people think Sanders and Warren are pushing for things that will never happen.
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:21 PM

32. Truth

 

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:10 PM

39. lol +1

 

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:42 PM

42. They engage in such thinkin' at their own risk. When Bernie & Elizabeth team up...

 

primary voters will vote in droves for them, sending the signal to Joe that his third try at the nomination is over and that he should drop out early for the purpose of party unity, like they keep telling Bernie. So looking forward to the announcement of "The Team" and the start of primary voting for them!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:17 AM

71. When pigs fly.

 

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #71)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:21 AM

74. Haven't you seen the filthy porcine creatures aboard Air Force One lately?!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:27 PM

3. Mc Connell will only be useful once he's voted out!!!

 

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:30 PM

4. Mr Biden is in error here.

 

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Response to irisblue (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

44. THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT!!

 


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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:31 PM

5. Honestly, don't have an issue with offering to work with GOPers, if only for a day or two.

 

Unless, we really luck up, we are going to have to deal with these losers. If they only cooperate 5%, it will help.

I have no doubt Biden can handle McConnell when it comes down to it, although we will never get everything we want, even if we luck up and take majority in Senate.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:52 PM

12. and. even with taking the WH in 2020

 

we have to be able to govern for 4 years .. and present the Democrats as the party that are "doing things." We will need to present at least the "appearance" of cooperation, or the willingness to cooperate, in order to win 2024 and on ..

I don't fault Biden (or anyone else) for thinking longer term than the next news cycle .. that's part of the problem that brought us here.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:07 PM

26. How did McConnell act from 2009-2016 when it was literally

 

the VPs job to wrangle him?
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Response to blm (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:18 PM

30. I get it. But I don't think we attract critical Independent voters

 

by drawing a line in the sand at this point.

Don’t have any illusions that McConnell will cooperate with Biden. But at least there’s a better chance he will if offered, and there’s a chance a small percentage of former Turtle supporters will say, “it’s time for Turtle to go, I need healthcare, some help with my lost mining job, etc.”

I’m glad Biden is making the offer, and it’s not going to make anything worse at this point. Be nice, then kick their rears if necessary.
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Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:34 PM

7. Everyone should be supporting financially and door to door knocking to get RID of McConnell.

 

Help this guy and screw McConnell and his pittance he would give America.


Kentucky state Rep. Charles Booker announces US Senate run

https://www.wlky.com/article/kentucky-state-rep-charles-booker-announces-us-senate/30404968#
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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:58 PM

16. Here's Booker's website for positions on the issues and how to donate...

 

https://bookerforkentucky.com/
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Response to RobertDevereaux (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:30 PM

34. Awesome! Thank you. Lets get RID of McConnell!!!!!!!!!!!

 

https://bookerforkentucky.com/
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:36 PM

8. Yes, some republicans

 

will change course once Trump is gone, if they survive, but McConnell is more than uncooperative, he appears to be corrupt to the core. I don't think there is any hope for him and its entirely possible he won't be able to hold his seat.

Many other republicans may want to walk back their words and actions from the past three years, but for most, I don't think it is possible. I honestly doubt that Biden truly believes it is possible either, but more likely his words are meant to reach some of them, to give them the opportunity to come back from the cliff's edge.

I think the republican party is self-destructing and either it will need to be reinvented or replaced.
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Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:49 PM

11. like he was with Obama?

 

yeah right.
McConnell has to be GONE. or at least his majority..
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:56 PM

15. .

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=411574
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:18 PM

20. These kind of statements boggle the mind

 

and sound naive on the candidate’s part.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:56 PM

47. I don't understand what Joe's advisors could possibly be thinking by pushing this strategy.

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:23 PM

21. Just wait Joe. If you are elected and McConnell is not defeated he will block any SCOTUS

 

nomination that you ever make.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:54 PM

22. When that statement came out Biden's mouth

 

my Spouse yelled,well that did it,I will not vote for that Fu*ker,who in hell is he trying to fool!
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:21 PM

31. If he's trying to fool anyone, it's critical Independent voters who

 

are tired of the grid-lock, wrangling, etc.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:57 PM

38. Call me surprised when that statement came from her.

 

As a life long Dem,that one was killer.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 06:55 PM

23. Sorry, Joe, but this

 

is a pipe dream.

I truly hope that Amy McGrath wins McConnell's seat. And I hope that we have a Dem majority in the Senate, no matter who our Dem nominee is.

But if McConnell IS there - as either Majority or Minority Leader - he will continue to be the same POS that he is now and has been since early 2009. For him, ANY Dem is anethema. Period.

And GOPers will certainly NOT have any epiphany. They've been truly obnoxious since Newt Gingrich came in with a bang in 1994.

If you believe otherwise, then you have truly been living on a different planet. Sheesh!


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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:51 PM

45. A "PIPE DREAM" INDEED... I WANT WHAT JOE'S SMOKIN' IN THAT PIPE!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:04 PM

25. This is the main reason I haven't committed to Biden; Biden thinks kGOP wants a liberal democracy

 

... and there's little to no evidence that they do and they have not shown any in a multitude of areas centrally one person one vote.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:08 PM

27. He seems to be having memory issues.

 

McConnell led the pack when they met in 2008 on inauguration day vowing to oppose everything Obama tried to do. McConnell will never be "mildly cooperative" and is not capable of an "epiphany."
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Response to Paka (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

46. Yeah, but Democratic voters have LONG memories and know malarkey when they hear it!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:14 PM

28. Sometimes I feel like Joe Biden's view of Republicans is stuck in like some 1970s time warp

 

Like they are Rockefeller Republicans who can be reasoned with. It seems like he has no memory of the rise of right wing radio and Republicans under Newt in the 1990s and how bad they were then. Or their behavior under Bush II. Or the even the their behavior while he was Vice President. This ain't the Republican party of old and quite honestly hasn't been since probably Reagan. But it got way worse as Fox News and right wing radio took off.
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Response to inwiththenew (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

43. No kidding!! IMHO, that disqualifies Joe out of the gate. We need a candidate who understands that

 

Rethugs are the enemy and that they have to be absolutely clobbered at the ballot box. Bernie understands this and that is why he's steadily climbing in the polls and will soon overtake Biden.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Response to inwiththenew (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:02 AM

59. DING, DING, We have a winna!!

 

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:16 PM

29. If you're taking this to heart, watch The Help or

 

The Butler. This doesn't even register with black folks because we understand what he's saying but more importantly why he's saying it.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:30 PM

35. lol if you find this offensive, you're a lightweight.

 

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:32 PM

36. Wth does "mildly cooperative" mean?

 

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Response to cwydro (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:34 AM

68. Whatever Joe meant by that, at best, it's wishful thinking... never gonna happen!!

 


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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

48. He's Wrong

 

McConnell has shown blatant disregard for the Constitution. We can NOT let the GOP undermine the country anymore. Enough is enough.

He get's one chance to work us. If he fails, the filibuster goes away and we do what the majority wants.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

49. I find your being offended offensive. Democracy REQUIRES

 

cooperation between those who disagree to work. Anyone who can't accept that can't accept representative government. We all had 12 years of public schooling. We're supposed to graduate knowing that.

If you do but just don't care, what do you imagine you want to replace it? A government run only by people like you, forcing their decisions on everyone else? If that's so, you're certainly not alone. There's a whole party to the right and a cluster of extremists to the left who'd all make it happen tomorrow if they could.

Heck, tonight, and you could wake up to learn of their first decisions.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:05 PM

52. We are talking about McConnell specifically

 

No need to dramatically declare a dictatorship.

McConnell has, in both words and deeds, for over a decade, done everything in their power hurt and humiliate Democrats.
He, metaphorically, spit in Obama's face on his way out the door by denying to even hold a vote on Obama's USSC nominee. For good measure spent years refusing to hold votes on hundreds of federal judgeships.

A guy that has literally sat on hundreds of pieces of legislation and not even allowed to come to a debate.

This is the guy Biden thanks he can get cooperation from?

I will say it: hell no.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:03 AM

63. Democracy doesn't depend on working...

 

Majority Leader McConnell. In fact it desperately needs McConnell to be vanquished from any political office. Save your offense for someone who actually wants to rule by force.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:07 PM

53. Why is it

 

so offensive ? Joe's former boss did the same thing.
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Response to obnoxiousdrunk (Reply #53)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:13 PM

55. Exactly

 

Just as one example we have a Republican-leaning USSC
despite Obama's best efforts to work with McConnell.

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:11 PM

54. Melodrama.

 

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:14 PM

56. Republicans may be willing to work with Democrats

 

if we were able to pummel their asses into near oblivion by voting them out. Once they were made to suffer for years without any power, they may think twice about being obstructionists. But, once they regain power, they'll go back to being their shitty selves. Give them an inch, they'll take a fucking light year. Surely Joe is smarter than that statement he made.
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #56)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:26 AM

64. +∞

 


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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:00 AM

58. Repugs are NOT going to change. They will put up every roadblock they can.

 

To think otherwise is ….I will be nice and say "naïve".
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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #58)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:28 AM

65. That WAS nice of you!

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #65)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 02:38 PM

86. ...

 

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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

61. The article says the crowd chuckled after he paused and said "how can I say ... mildly cooperative."

 

"I'm not suggesting that all of a sudden everyone's going to project a new sense of courage and political courage. What I'm suggesting is that the the dynamic changes ... . And so that's why I think you're going to see even Mitch McConnell changing some ideas or being more -- how can I say -- mildly cooperative."

He's saying that when the dynamic changes in a group, people who were uncooperative often change their minds if it's in their interest and that might even happen to the Grim Reaper.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

62. McConnell will work with Biden the same way he worked with Obama. I wonder if Biden ever

 

attempted to get McConnell on board with anything the Dems did while he and Obama were in office. I doubt it. By the way, I agree, very offensive.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #62)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:32 AM

66. I wondered the same thing... great minds think alike!!

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #66)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:07 AM

72. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice? Nope, not gonna happen, I know what they are,

 

I know what they do.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #72)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:14 AM

73. You'd think a seasoned politician like Biden would ALSO know this!! Apparently not...

 

which is why Biden's third try at the nomination will yield similar results. This will be a "deal breaker" for a LOT of voters and Bernie & Elizabeth will WALTZ to the nomination.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #73)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:31 AM

75. All I can come up with is that he knows they wouldn't work with Obama because he's black.

 

But since Biden is white he thinks they will work with him. That's the epiphany he keeps talking about the Republicans having. The shit the Republicans have been doing didn't start with Trump, it won't end just because Trump goes away.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #75)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:41 AM

79. A good point, though an incredibly sad one.

 

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Response to blm (Reply #79)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:13 AM

83. I remember when Bill was elected the DC power pukes were offended that "white trash",

 

and yes they used that term, managed to be elected as President. He didn't belong there in their warped view. From day one, they were out to impeach him.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:33 AM

67. Thats the problem I think. He identifies with them too much

 

According to an Obama aide, one of the reasons they often underestimated the republicans, why the White House would try to work with Republicans but this just made the Republicans push even harder is, in his words "We had no idea they hated us so much"

Even if Biden did win (which I doubt he would), he would just be a placeholder until the Republicans took control again.

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Response to booley (Reply #67)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:36 AM

69. THIS...100 PERCENT!!

 


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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 05:32 AM

70. That is not good

 

Not good at all.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:39 AM

78. LOL settle down

 

Joe is just fluffing the general electorate.

It's just politics.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:56 AM

80. It's just strategy. Smart strategy.

 

First, Biden doesn't strike me as naive. He's the most seasoned politician running this year.

Keep in mind that, if elected, Biden knows there's a high likelihood that he will be forced to deal with MoscowMitch in 2021. Might as well attempt to start fresh with him, even if it is a waste of time.

I know the turtle man is listening to our squabbles over Biden's magnanimous comments about him and other repubs. All of this is being absorbed into MM's reptilian psyche. Maybe it'll soften him up, maybe it won't. Who knows? But voters who were willing to give MM the benefit of the doubt will see that MoscowMitch is the one to blame when that relationship goes south.
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Response to angrychair (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:00 AM

82. It aint 1980 anymore.

 

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