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Thu Dec 19, 2019, 07:54 PM

 

CBS News Plus Charleston, SC Post And Courier Confirm Sanders SURGE (and use "that word")

Tack on the People's Action Endorsement and Sanders has had quite a week. Here are the facts...




Charleston, SC Post And Courier report

Aided by voters under 50, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is continuing his recent national surge in South Carolina, where he has supplanted U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts for second place.

Sanders gained the most support of any candidate since the last Post and Courier-Change Research poll taken in October. He added 7 percentage points to pass Warren, whose backing was unchanged.

Sandersí poll numbers have risen in other early voting states since Thanksgiving, where he has become the leader in New Hampshire and the second choice in Iowa, according to data tallied by Real Clear Politics.


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Reply CBS News Plus Charleston, SC Post And Courier Confirm Sanders SURGE (and use "that word") (Original post)
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 OP
Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #1
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #6
George II Dec 2019 #2
Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #3
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #4
George II Dec 2019 #5
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #9
George II Dec 2019 #12
Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #13
George II Dec 2019 #14
Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #15
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #16
ehrnst Dec 2019 #17
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #8
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #10
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #7
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #11

Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 07:58 PM

1. Have you no shame? Bursting bubbles of inevitability...

 

...and at Christmas time.

First impeachment, now this...



/s
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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:56 PM

6. This is from the change research poll which has been posted here before and it is from 12/12

 

change research is a paid poll and completely unreliable. In fact it was from 12/6- 12/12 and newer polls show no such thing...but then it is a change research poll.

This is my favorite part....

"Change Research surveyed 998 likely general election voters in South Carolina, including 392 likely Democratic primary voters, from December 6-11, 2019." So who were the others they surveyed? Republicans, independents...who exactly?





https://www.changeresearch.com/post/south-carolina-post-and-courier-poll-december

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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:13 PM

2. RCP Averages in South Carolina including this poll:

 

Biden - 35.0
Warren - 16.3
Sanders - 15.3
Buttiegieg - 7.7

Looking at it another way:

Biden - 35.0
Warren PLUS Sanders - 31.6

538 doesn't even rate the Post and Courier poll.
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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:42 PM

3. That's changing. Considering 70% of voters say they will likely change their minds

 

Nothing is set in stone
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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:47 PM

4. The Poll Cited By The Post And Courier Was From Change Research

 

The Post and Courier reports news, facts. The poll cited as the foundation of the news story states, as fact...

Biden, Warren, and Sanders Lead the Democratic Primary in South Carolina

That Sanders has gone from heart attack to a leadership position within the South Carolina field in 10 weeks is the epitome of a surge.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:55 PM

5. The poll is listed on RCP as Post and Courier. It's not shown as a "Change Research" poll........

 

I just wish people would stop using a heart attack as a campaign talking point. Bringing it up repeatedly doesn't do any good EXCEPT pointing out that he's in poor health.

Plus, being in second place is NOT a "leadership" position. First place is a "leadership" position, everyone else is in a following position.
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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:08 PM

9. The poll surveyed 392 likely Democratic voters... doesn't say who the others surveyed were?

 

"Change Research surveyed 998 likely general election voters in South Carolina, including 392 likely Democratic primary voters, from December 6-11, 2019."

So who were the other 608 voters...they don't say.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:18 PM

12. It's the only SC poll that showed Biden's lead in single digits. The next closest to "7" is 11....

 

...which was the previous Post and Courier poll.

The closest NON-Post and Courier poll has Biden leading by 17.
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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:23 PM

13. Starting to have to go back further and further to get those 18 point leads though

 

The trend is not in his favor 3 months out.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:31 PM

14. You only have to go back about a month ago to the Nov 17 Quinnipiac poll to find it. Biden +20....

 

Give it a try.
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Response to George II (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:46 PM

15. Like I said, further and further.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:05 PM

16. I know...they are grasping at straws.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:47 PM

17. But SURGE!!! THE SURGE!!!!!

 

You'll jinx it with that kind of downer talk.

SHHHHHH!!!!

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Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:01 PM

8. It is not a Post and Courier poll but an old change research poll from sampled from 12-6 to 12-12...

 

It was called an outlier when it was posted that first time. They are reporting 7 day old 'facts' based on a shoddy outlier poll...change research...which was posted here before.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:11 PM

10. Not a fact...and it is and always was an outlier...read the original post.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:58 PM

7. It is a change research poll that sampled who know who between 12-6 and 12-12.

 

This has been posted and debunked before...you had to click the link to see it wasn't a new newspaper poll but an old change research poll being used as if it was new.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:16 PM

11. As you can see...the poll is an outlier...

 

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